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#52 Oct 18 2005 at 12:30 AM Rating: Good
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Again. You didn't provide a shred of counterargument then, and you've still not done so.

Oh sorry. I'll get right on my counterarguments to "Liberals deliberately murder and persecute American citizens in an effort to trade civil rights for votes."

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#53 Oct 18 2005 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Regarding the rights of parents to teach their children creationism in the home or at church:
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However, I could certainly find Liberal groups who clearly *do* have the agenda of making it illegal to teach creationism to any children,


Out of context. And unproven by you.


I don't have to prove anything. You made the claim, the burden of proof is upon you.


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This link has some interesting information.

The study found that almost half of all Americans had never even heard of creationism.


They may not have heard of it referred to as "creationism" but considering the large religious majority in our country is Judeo-Christian, and considering the very first chapter in the very first book of the Judeo-Christian holy texts says that God created the world in seven days, the idea that none of them know of "creationism" is idiotic, to say the least.


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While the *valid* argument is that creationism does not belong in a science class, that often gets transmorgified into "ceationism does not belong in school". The sheer number of times it's expressed this way gives weight to that assessment.


But that is not what you SAID. What you SAID is that Liberals are campaigning to not allow children to be taught creationism AT ALL, which is absurd, because NO ONE with a healthy respect for the Bill of Rights (which is the document Liberals most concern themselves with seeing gets upheld) would even consider denying a parent the right to teach their child whatever religious doctrine so desired in their own home or the religious institution of their choice. The "creationism does not belong in school" argument you decry addresses the idea of our children being indoctrinated to a certain religious belief regardless of the First Amendment rights of their parents, and you know it. Few, if any, liberals would ever say it couldn't be discussed in a non-compulsive comparitive religion or philosophy class.


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That a combination of factors is not just preventing creationism from being taught in science class, but is preventing it from being taught *at all* in any form of class (even elective ones),


Again, that is not what you said.

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Sigh. Out of context again. That was *specifically* in response to the article Pat had linked.


Lies. It was a statement about "date rape" in general, and was followed up by several lengthy posts claiming that ALL "real" rapes leave physical trauma.


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blah blah blah


Yeah, nice try spinning, but the fact is, you put your foot in it by making outrageous claims and got nailed doing so. Suck it up.



Edited, Tue Oct 18 01:47:48 2005 by Ambrya
#54 Oct 18 2005 at 2:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Say what you want about Gbaji, but I do admire his prevalence towards lengthy posts. He tries to cover all of his bases on an issue, and that's not surprising from someone who is firm in their beliefs. And though I do feel that he'd definitely do well to try to make more concessions in his cases, I think he does so in his own, less straightforward way (which, while being existent, is indeed not truly forthright).

Nevertheless, he rarely resorts to the sort of deliberate and personally insulting retorts that many of the forum members so frequently use against him, and I think that's admirable enough.

Plus, I think he's a good counterbalance to the generally liberal tendencies of the majority of the big posters here (think of it this way, if you weren't arguing with Gbaji, you'd be going after each other, right?).

I'd like to second Neph's belief that this thread is somewhat in poor taste. There's no need to "prove yourself" against Gbaji to the rest of the forum. Anyone worth their weight should be able to draw the appropriate reactions to any particular debate directly in that thread. Those who'd judge either one of you by those brief quotes you supplied are just going to give a knee-jerk reaction.

...Though that's only an offhand response of mine to it. Gbaji can refute whatever claims you make as he feels inclined (like he already has).

My (outsider) opinion has always been that he's no better or worse than most posters, in that while he has a tendency to be pretty transparent and easy to predict in his biases (I do wish he would drop them...), he is also more articulate and less condescending than many, at least.

Edited, Tue Oct 18 03:10:58 2005 by Eske
#55 Oct 18 2005 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
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he is also more articulate and less condescending than many, at least


Articulate and condescending, along with mass amounts of text don't automatically make you have a good point.

It doesn't matter how much *************** he shovels into his posts. If the statement made is blatently inaccurate it's still shi[b][/b]t all the way down.

Edited, Tue Oct 18 03:49:05 2005 by Diveos
#56 Oct 18 2005 at 6:45 AM Rating: Excellent
I may be a little drunk right now, but Ambrya, I want to tell you something: You're a self-righteous *****. You've made it some priority of yours to personally insult and correct everything Gbaji has said/done. It's stupid and I cannot look at a bottle of drano or bleach without hoping to see your lips wrapped around it's loving spout.

Fu[b][/b]ck you, you stupid ***** of a poster.

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Someone who won't remember this tomorrow.


Call me later, love you long time.
#57 Oct 18 2005 at 9:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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Eske wrote:
I'd like to second Neph's belief that this thread is somewhat in poor taste.
In forum=4? God, no!
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#58 Oct 18 2005 at 9:17 AM Rating: Good
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I'd like to second Neph's belief that this thread is somewhat in poor taste.


You naughty little suck up...oh yeah, you like it like that, don't ya you dirty naughty little thing. Smiley: wink2





#59 Oct 18 2005 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I will jump on the "Ambrya is an annoying self-righteous little *****" wagon. How did you find your way here with your head so far rammed up your own ***** Why don't you just f[b][/b]uck right off?
#60 Oct 18 2005 at 9:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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#61 Oct 18 2005 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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Remember, freaks. This is the Asylum. Post what you want, when you want. And if you don't like it, no one really gives a f[b][/b]uck.


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#62 Oct 18 2005 at 9:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nadenu is a *****!!!
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#63 Oct 18 2005 at 9:41 AM Rating: Good
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If she chases Gbaji off, who will answer all our questions about meth??? Smiley: frown

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#64 Oct 18 2005 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Joph is a post *****!!!
#65 Oct 18 2005 at 9:52 AM Rating: Good
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Articulate and condescending, along with mass amounts of text don't automatically make you have a good point.

It doesn't matter how much bullsh*t he shovels into his posts. If the statement made is blatently inaccurate it's still **** all the way down.


Note that I never inferred that Gbaji always has good points, or that writing a lot of text makes you "more right" than anybody. Also, I said that he isn't condescending.

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I'd like to second Neph's belief that this thread is somewhat in poor taste.
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You naughty little suck up...oh yeah, you like it like that, don't ya you dirty naughty little thing.


Hehe, last time I ever mention you in a post, lev.

Edited, Tue Oct 18 11:06:12 2005 by Eske
#66 Oct 18 2005 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Only teasing babe....you know I love you. Smiley: flowers
#67 Oct 18 2005 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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Just my Smiley: twocents

I hate to see some n00b ripping on one of the orignal Allakhazam posters.


Just sayin'


#68 Oct 18 2005 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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#69 Oct 18 2005 at 10:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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If she chases Gbaji off, who will answer all our questions about meth??? Smiley: frown
Angry Hippo. While on meth.

"omg im so hgh... alice coper is the bst EVERR!!!!!"
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#70 Oct 18 2005 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
I seriously doubt anyone will be chasing Gbaji off any time soon.

Gawd, I hope not, anyway. Could you imagine how long a "goodbye post" would be?
#71 Oct 18 2005 at 10:10 AM Rating: Good
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If only Gbaji would post less on politics and more about the time his buddy let him rail his wife while he watched, things would be much more creepy in here (it is the halloween season afterall).
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#72 Oct 18 2005 at 10:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Jboots


Smiley: lol that was a goody too!
#73 Oct 18 2005 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Chand the Furtive wrote:
IYou've made it some priority of yours to personally insult and correct everything Gbaji has said/done.


Smiley: laugh Not a priority, just a hobby. Who can resist when he provides such an obvious target?

#74 Oct 18 2005 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Chand the Furtive wrote:
IYou've made it some priority of yours to personally insult and correct everything Gbaji has said/done.


Smiley: laugh Not a priority, just a hobby. Who can resist when he provides such an obvious target?


Yeah, but you start smelling like him when you involve yourself too much.

Ewww.
#75 Oct 18 2005 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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You think that is creepy, bhodi, think back to when he went into lovingly exquisite detail about how he laid the wood to that nine year old in the pool. That, my friend, was creepy. Mind you, I like the Gbaji-izer as much as the next argumentative person, but that story was waaaaaaaaay over the top. I needed to shower several times after reading it.

Tell it to me again, Daddy! I love those spooky bedtime stories!

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#76 Oct 18 2005 at 1:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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bodhisattva Defender of Justice wrote:
If only Gbaji would post less on politics and more about the time his buddy let him rail his wife while he watched, things would be much more creepy in here (it is the halloween season afterall).
You know, for as many times as Gbaji's gone on about banging his friends' wives, doing random chicks in swimming pools and the like, I don't think I've ever heard him in the last five years allude to having ever been in a serious, longterm relationship with anyone.. ever. Which may explain a lot of his views on women.

Alternately, his views on women may explain why he has to bang his friend's wife instead of being in a relationship.
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