How the fu[/i]ck can anyone whine about having their PC invaded if they:
a) run old versions of IE?
b) use IE [i]at all? (Firefox is now widely known to be more secure. Not impervious, but much safer than MicroSnot)
c) don't run MS Updates?
d) don't run up to date AV software?
I've noticed some dweebs whining about having their e-Bay/WoW/online Bank/**** accounts hacked.
If they're guilty of any of a thru b, then fu[i][/i]ck 'em.
It's like parking a new Merc SLK outside K-Mart with the keys in the ignition, engine running, iPod and Cell-Phone on the passenger seat and a klaxon screaming 'Steal Me!'
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I tend to agree. Back before I had a clue, I ran IE and no updates, and I had such horrid spyware I regularly wiped my hard-drive. It is amazing what a little updating, firefox, and adblock will do for you.
I don't know why people don't believe you when you tell them this.
Firefox is over-rated. I'm not saying it's a bad browser, it isn't. But everyone keeps talking about how secure it is, and the only reason it was so secure was because no hackers bothered with it before because most people use IE. Now that more people are jumping on the Firefox bandwagon, there are going to be more looking to exploit it.
And those same people who are too lazy to do Microsoft updates are still too lazy to update Firefox when they download it. I bet there a few people around Alla's spouting the party line about Firefox security running a version that's 8 months old.
And those same people who are too lazy to do Microsoft updates are still too lazy to update Firefox when they download it. I bet there a few people around Alla's spouting the party line about Firefox security running a version that's 8 months old.
Some people are like slinkies, they aren't really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
Kakar the Vile wrote:
Firefox is over-rated. I'm not saying it's a bad browser, it isn't. But everyone keeps talking about how secure it is, and the only reason it was so secure was because no hackers bothered with it before because most people use IE. Now that more people are jumping on the Firefox bandwagon, there are going to be more looking to exploit it.
And those same people who are too lazy to do Microsoft updates are still too lazy to update Firefox when they download it. I bet there a few people around Alla's spouting the party line about Firefox security running a version that's 8 months old.
And those same people who are too lazy to do Microsoft updates are still too lazy to update Firefox when they download it. I bet there a few people around Alla's spouting the party line about Firefox security running a version that's 8 months old.
I stand by my general point c), but acknowledge that I should have said "don't run updates on their chosen s/w"
I'm sure FireFox will get more nasty attention as it eats into IE's monopoly, as would Opera or Netscape.
Simple point is that morans who don't pay enough attention to security will get a kick in the nuts, and blame everyone but the perp and themself.
Blaming the web sites where a hack triggered their invasion is like blaming K-Mart for hosting a car-park where their ride was stolen.
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It's like the one person in the guild I play in on WoW.
A player came up to him and said "If you give me your account name and password I will give you <insert ridiculously large amount of game money here>" The guy actually fell for it. The next day he went to log on and his password was changed. When he finally got the account back it had been stripped bare and he was missing all his gear and money.
As to the whole Allakhazam banner trojan, well Alla and Illia removed the offending banner, reported it to Blizzard, the company that put up banner and the proper authorities. It was done quickly and no ******* around was done. They (along with blizzard) put up guides on how to look/find/remove the trojan along with the tips of changing password.
A player came up to him and said "If you give me your account name and password I will give you <insert ridiculously large amount of game money here>" The guy actually fell for it. The next day he went to log on and his password was changed. When he finally got the account back it had been stripped bare and he was missing all his gear and money.
As to the whole Allakhazam banner trojan, well Alla and Illia removed the offending banner, reported it to Blizzard, the company that put up banner and the proper authorities. It was done quickly and no ******* around was done. They (along with blizzard) put up guides on how to look/find/remove the trojan along with the tips of changing password.
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Im just waiting for the computer here at work to die horribly. The powers-that-be have decided to require admin rights to download anything from the web. Since then the McAfee Virus Scan update pop-up has been coming up every 3-4 hours. I have told them to update the .dat files but noooooooooo, nobody can be bothered to do that. So we're going on a month now with them running Virus Scan with expired .dat files.
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Kakar the Vile wrote:
Firefox is over-rated. I'm not saying it's a bad browser, it isn't. But everyone keeps talking about how secure it is, and the only reason it was so secure was because no hackers bothered with it before because most people use IE. Now that more people are jumping on the Firefox bandwagon, there are going to be more looking to exploit it.
I'd be willing to bet though, that when FF starts getting more attention from the teeny-bopper haxx0rs, the powers that be at Mozilla will be a bit quicker to react and come up with a fix or patch. MS likes to wait 3 or 4 months. Or years.
I have Firefox, and I like the interface, but I agree that it's a little overrated right now. The program just barely loads, hangs forever, crashes constantly, and takes twice as long to load every single page as IE does.
But that's MicroSquish for you. After all the lawsuits and everything, they're still writing platforms that mess with third party software.
edit: I don't know what platform other people are running FireFox on that it works so much better, but I'm running it on XP.
Edited, Sun Oct 16 23:02:14 2005 by Khateria
But that's MicroSquish for you. After all the lawsuits and everything, they're still writing platforms that mess with third party software.
edit: I don't know what platform other people are running FireFox on that it works so much better, but I'm running it on XP.
Edited, Sun Oct 16 23:02:14 2005 by Khateria
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Kakar the Vile wrote:
Firefox is over-rated. I'm not saying it's a bad browser, it isn't. But everyone keeps talking about how secure it is, and the only reason it was so secure was because no hackers bothered with it before because most people use IE. Now that more people are jumping on the Firefox bandwagon, there are going to be more looking to exploit it.
I'd be willing to bet though, that when FF starts getting more attention from the teeny-bopper haxx0rs, the powers that be at Mozilla will be a bit quicker to react and come up with a fix or patch. MS likes to wait 3 or 4 months. Or years.
Not to be an MS fanboy, but every major virus or hack in teh last 3 years has been the direct result of script kiddies exploiting an already published hack, most of the time one for which a security update had been released at least two or more weeks in advance of the introduction of the malicious software.
The problem at this point remains in the hands of the consumer who fails to update their software.
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Not to be an MS fanboy, but every major virus or hack in teh last 3 years has been the direct result of script kiddies exploiting an already published hack, most of the time one for which a security update had been released at least two or more weeks in advance of the introduction of the malicious software.
No, there have been several that were created using previously unknown security holes. The initial code red variants being a prime example. That and a few of the SQL server based infection vectors were patched after the fact. In the majority of cases though, you are correct.
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I've found that FireFox generally loads pages and images a little faster than IE does, but it takes a lot longer for the program itself to load. Also, there are still too many sites that don't function fully with FireFox, or simply don't support it. It's also more of a pain getting ahold of the FireFox multimedia plugins like Flash and such.
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I have Firefox, and I like the interface, but I agree that it's a little overrated right now. The program just barely loads, hangs forever, crashes constantly, and takes twice as long to load every single page as IE does.
But that's MicroSquish for you. After all the lawsuits and everything, they're still writing platforms that mess with third party software.
edit: I don't know what platform other people are running FireFox on that it works so much better, but I'm running it on XP.
But that's MicroSquish for you. After all the lawsuits and everything, they're still writing platforms that mess with third party software.
edit: I don't know what platform other people are running FireFox on that it works so much better, but I'm running it on XP.
I had a problem with FF when I had it loaded with too many extensions. After I removed a few that I really didn't need, it worked much better.
I'm using Opera at home and Netscape at work. Both PCs are staying clean with little effort, something that did not occur with IE visiting the same sites. I'm pleased.
As per my above post, I am pleased as well with Firefox. I have had no issue, and I found that it functions better than IE. I have had it crash on me a small handfull of times, while with IE it was a regular occurance. The only sites I have needed that didn't support it were Dell's tech support internet chat service and my college algebra homework website, so I do have to break out IE occasionally. It annoys me when I have to. I liked it so much I switched from using Outlook to Thunderbird for email.
However, I think it is all personal preference, and as long as you just update everything, whatever works for you.
I am a security freak. Update AV software and DATs constantly. I have adware scanners , track erasers, Router, Firewall, Live Anti spyware tools. Besides making my PC impervious; it has royaly fu[b][/b]cked it up. Web pages load half images, or no images. I can not see Avatars, icons, etc. any and all small nuscances. My AV scan now crashes and I am getting pissed. Mr. Dell is about to go the way of Ol' Mr. HP (a hammer and fists).
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Yuck. I do not know nearly what some people here do, but for the casual at home user (or college student who needed a laptop, which would be me), I had an HP and found it to be a piece of crap. After several years I bought a Dell, and I am quite happy with it. Part of that could be that I sank twice the money into the Dell and you get what you pay for, but who knows. The only regret I have with this laptop is that I have a sad video card. I have one of those tiny travel laptops; I guess I traded portability for gaming on this one (travel...laptop. That sorta sounds retarded. You know what I mean though).
My HP served me for 5 or 6 years 
My grandmother bought it for me my first year of College and I could not afford a new one. That 6th year though was a rough time for the HP. Sh[b][/b]it just stopped working. So I ripped out the hard drive and beat the Tower to a bloody pulp (my blood).
My grandmother bought it for me my first year of College and I could not afford a new one. That 6th year though was a rough time for the HP. Sh[b][/b]it just stopped working. So I ripped out the hard drive and beat the Tower to a bloody pulp (my blood).My motherboard died on day 364 of my one year warranty. Seriously. I was in the army and we were out in the field at the time, and I could not get to a phone to call tech support. A week later when I was back home and able to call, they were jerks and said "too bad, you are out of warranty." I am lucky in that my father is a lawyer and we wrote nasty nasty letters to work out the problem. The computer never worked the same again after they replaced the motherboard; they had to send me a refurbished one eventually, and it was a Compaq. It hasn't died yet, but I still don't love it. I guess it runs okay. I just don't want a repeat of that I suppose.
Yeah my Motherbood broke as well a little over a year since I got it. Thank goodness my Dad extended the warranty. They had a tech out the next day. I had a ~444MHz he installed a 244MHz board 
I was wondering why it was running so damn slow and why my start up said 244MHz Intel.
I was wondering why it was running so damn slow and why my start up said 244MHz Intel.This thread is hawt! 
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I like geeks.
You know, you saying that reminded me that I know several other people with HP's that had motherboard problems, particularly with laptops. My father, in fact, has managed to kill two.
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They had a tech out the next day. I had a ~444MHz he installed a 244MHz board
That would make me angry. If they are replacing something, it had better be the same or better. If they are not making the exact same motherboard anymore, upgrade me. Jerks.
Oh he came back and either put a new one in or changed a jumper or something.
I had an HP originally and it too lasted almost 5 years. Now I just build my PC's, cheaper and you know what's going in there. Newegg has been very good to me this year.
I have a Dell Card with a $5,000 limit and zero balance. That is why I stick with Dell. I need a new printer and its nice to have somethimg other than my credit card to front the cost.
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