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#1 Oct 13 2005 at 8:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oh noes! the allagator ate food similar to what it would eat every day in teh wild!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/4336368.stm

Youth feeds zoo rabbit to 'gator

Albert is 4m long, thought to be the largest aligator in the UK
A youth who snatched a white rabbit at a zoo and threw it into the alligator pool is being sought by police.
Customers at the Welsh Mountain Zoo in Colwyn Bay were horrified to see the tame animal still alive in the reptile's jaws before it was killed.

Zoo director Chris Jackson said staff and visitors were "sickened" by the "senseless barbarity" of the rabbit's death.

Staff detained one youth and handed him over to police, but two more got away.

The zoo has two Mississippi alligators, Albert and Nancy, both more than 30 years old and the only breeding pair of the species in Europe.

He said the youths were thought to have climbed over a wall into the zoo, which occupies 37 acres of woodland and parkland.

We're disgusted, speechless and shocked. If you spend your life working with and looking after animals, this is something you cannot conceive.

Zoo director Chris Jackson

He said: "They looked at the alligators, then went into the children's farm and looked at the rabbits.

"One of them decided that it was his sick agenda to take the rabbit. It was in a petting area, where the small children are encouraged to get close to them.

"He grabbed the rabbit and took it a distance of 20-30 yards to the alligator beach and threw it into the pool."

A visitor with his young daughter raised the alarm.

Live prey

"These youths drew attention to themselves with their remarks, which made the man and his daughter look to the pool and they saw the rabbit was in the jaws of the alligator," said Mr Jackson.

The zoo's alligator pool has an artificial "beach" with outdoor sun lamps under which the alligators can bask. It is surrounded by a 4ft (1.2m) fence. The rabbit was grabbed by the male alligator, Albert.

The alligator, who has been at the zoo for more than 20 years, is in excess of 4m long is believed to be the largest alligator in the UK.

Mr Jackson said: "The alligator quickly took the rabbit underwater. While one worries about the terror and the fear of the rabbit, its suffering would have been relatively limited."

He said Albert reacted like any alligator with live prey, drowning it first and eating it later.

In the wild, alligators feed on a variety of small animals including fish, birds and mammals.

In the zoo, Albert and Nancy feed on fish and meat, usually herring and beef.

Security at the zoo is being reviewed. The site is run by Mr Jackson and his brother, Nick, and was opened by their father in 1963.

North Wales Police said no-one had been charged but they were following some positive lines of inquiry.

Mr Jackson said: "We're disgusted, speechless and shocked. If you spend your life working with and looking after animals, this is something you cannot conceive

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#2 Oct 13 2005 at 9:05 AM Rating: Good
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Smiley: yippee

Something that everyone always wante to do but never had the balls. I hope they never catch him.

He should start a web site and take orders of which zoo animal gets it next! He's be rich in a matter of hours if he provide the video!


#3 Oct 13 2005 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
Albert wins!

F-A-T-A-L-I-T-Y!
#4 Oct 13 2005 at 9:07 AM Rating: Decent
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In the zoo, Albert and Nancy feed on fish and meat, usually herring and beef.


I am sure they would be comfortable watching a Cow take a taser shot to the head, and then hung up and dismembered.
#5 Oct 13 2005 at 9:15 AM Rating: Good
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I think the point is that it took time to tame the rabbit for use in the petting zoo. Not only that but most parents don't bring their children to the zoo to see animals mauled to death.

It was irresponsible and illegal. It sets a poor example for younger children, and now the zoo has one less asset in their childrens exhibit
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#6 Oct 13 2005 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
I think it's a good lesson for kids. That sometimes in life you will be ripped out of your cage and there will be a four ton predator more than happy to eat you after you drown.

In other words, cowboy up!
#7 Oct 13 2005 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good
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Call Jack Thompson!!
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#8 Oct 13 2005 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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now the zoo has one less asset in their childrens exhibit


Don't worry, there's plenty more where that one came from. You know what bunnies f[b][/b]uck like right? Yeah.
#9 Oct 13 2005 at 9:23 AM Rating: Decent
Eye for an Eye. They should take the kid and throw him in there now to let him see how cruel it is.

Ok well not really, but you must admit that would be funny to watch.

Sorry, I just have more compassion for animals than humans...

Edited, Thu Oct 13 10:31:25 2005 by Proroc
#10 Oct 13 2005 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
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Getting another rabbit will certainly not be a problem. Training a rabbit to complacently sit there while being poked, prodded, and tugged at by grimey 3 year olds for hours on end will take valuable time and resources that could better be spent elsewhere in the zoo. All that for some teens 4 seconds of fun.
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#11 Oct 13 2005 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
how much training do you think really goes into those rabbits?
#12 Oct 13 2005 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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how much training do you think really goes into those rabbits?


None


It's a rabbit, the brain is the size of a pea.
#13 Oct 13 2005 at 9:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Training a rabbit to complacently sit there while being poked, prodded, and tugged at by grimey 3 year olds for hours on end...
I can only guess the rabbits final thoughts as the gator closed its jaws were "Thank you, sweet rabbit Jesus."
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#14 Oct 13 2005 at 9:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Rabbits are terribly skittish, they also tend to kick and bite when handled.

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I can only guess the rabbits final thoughts as the gator closed its jaws were "Thank you, sweet rabbit Jesus."


I'm not arguing it was terribly inhumane from the rabbits point of view, I'm sure being eaten by a gator beats being shredded along with your whole family by some careless sod with a lawnmower.
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#15 Oct 13 2005 at 9:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm willing to run over an alligator too if it makes you feel better Smiley: grin
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#16 Oct 13 2005 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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I'm willing to run over an alligator too if it makes you feel better


Well actually you would have to find a whole family of baby ones, and then make sure you cackle gleefully as you slaughter them in front of mortified onlookers.
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#17 Oct 13 2005 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
Maybe the boy had just watched "Holy Grail" and thought the rabbit could defend itself.
#18 Oct 13 2005 at 11:56 AM Rating: Default
That is hilarious. They are kids, I used to do crazy things at least one time just to see what would happen, especially if I wouldn't get caught. When I was a kid I would put objects on train tracks (small rocks, sticks, baby rabbits) to see what the train would do to them. One time a police officer saw me and scared me to death when he said that the 50 pennies and small pebbles I put on the track would derail it. I never did it again after that. I think my Atari 2600 ET game made me do it.
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That is hilarious. They are kids, I used to do crazy things at least one time just to see what would happen, especially if I wouldn't get caught. When I was a kid I would put objects on train tracks (small rocks, sticks, baby rabbits) to see what the train would do to them. One time a police officer saw me and scared me to death when he said that the 50 pennies and small pebbles I put on the track would derail it. I never did it again after that. I think my Atari 2600 ET game made me do it.


You didn't know what would happen if you put a baby rabbit on a set of train tracks? Was your Atari 2600 game painted with lead based paint by chance?
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#20 Oct 13 2005 at 12:41 PM Rating: Default
I can see it now, the parent groups and the politicians going after Zoo Tycoon. That would be greatly amusing.
#21 Oct 13 2005 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Mr Jackson said: "We're disgusted, speechless and shocked. If you spend your life working with and looking after animals, this is something you cannot conceive
Hmmm it's called nature.

#22 Oct 13 2005 at 12:55 PM Rating: Good
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It's a rabbit, the brain is the size of a pea.


My point exactly.


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Rabbits are terribly skittish, they also tend to kick and bite when handled.


How many non-feral rabbits have you handled? I doubt the 4-H kids spend much time training their rabbit, aside from the normal feeding and holding it.

Did you try jamming your thumb in it's bumhole? That'll **** right off.

#23 Oct 13 2005 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
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is believed to be the largest alligator in the UK.



Smiley: lol they keep saying this in the article.. Why? Not like they didn't import it from somwhere... not like they went out and hunted down one of the many killer alligators in the British IslesSmiley: dubious
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#24 Oct 13 2005 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
that's just funny the way they reacted to that.... I mean, go to a factory farm where they raise pigs and you'll see ******* thousands of animals much smarter than bunnies (and sentient I might add too) living in the most squalid conditions... and after a lifetime of constant misery, being killed in not much more of a humane way than that bunny was killed.... ... .... really makes you think, doesn't it?....

ok... well... not really... just reminds me of how the majoirty of humans (myself included at this moment) live their lives guided by unconscious, stupid egoity (not such a bad thing if guided correctly, I think) all the while prizing themselves on their intelligence...

not really something to be ashamed of for me, though... infact I'm rather proud of it!! *puffs out his chest*
#25 Oct 13 2005 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
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That is hilarious. They are kids, I used to do crazy things at least one time just to see what would happen, especially if I wouldn't get caught. When I was a kid I would put objects on train tracks (small rocks, sticks, baby rabbits) to see what the train would do to them. One time a police officer saw me and scared me to death when he said that the 50 pennies and small pebbles I put on the track would derail it. I never did it again after that. I think my Atari 2600 ET game made me do it.

Pee your pants a lot, too?

There's a difference between what would happen in nature and what this kid did. It was sick, and he should be punished. An alligator would probably drown and eat a baby, as well, but that doesn't mean you should let a kid toss one in there, just to see.
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