Don't you hate it when you put your foot in your mouth?
The short version: A boatload of people got flipped, probably by the wake of a larger boat. 21 (current count) drowned, including some senior citizens.
Does NY need stricter regulations on tour boats and life jackets or is this just a normal risk and a freakish accident?
I tend to believe the latter, though I do wonder a bit about the boat capacity of 50 people and it being nearly full. I wonder if they were actually over the allowed weight for the boat. If you've ever paid attention to the person/weight limits on boats, most of them don't really add up, such as 8 persons/1000 lbs. You need a few smal children in the mix to make everything come out, especially with the gargantuan size of the North American *** these days.
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freakish accidents are just natures way of ensuring natural selection.
the most fit survive.
jumping in a boat packed with people does not male you one of the brightest, or fitist.
neither does enlisting in the armed services when a war monger is in charge of the whitehouse.
the most fit survive.
jumping in a boat packed with people does not male you one of the brightest, or fitist.
neither does enlisting in the armed services when a war monger is in charge of the whitehouse.
Beat you to it TS.
That is kinda close to where I currently live. I also live in an area near Lake Ontario where alot of "tour-boating" goes on. I have been on a few, and never had to put on a life jacket, although I do not know what the actual law is. In this area at least, there is a large amount of boating going on, so surely they have regulations?
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The postcard perfect day of sailing on Lake George suddenly turned horrific Sunday when the 40-foot boat the Ethan Allen flipped over so quickly that none of the 47 passengers could put on a life jacket.
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SomeCrackpot wrote:
"We were just cruising along, and all of a sudden, the boat tipped. We thought it was kind of like a joke," Ann Mae Hawley, 74, told the Glens Falls Post-Star. "Next thing I knew, I was in the water under the boat.
Ah the old "flip the boat over for 30 seconds then right it" trick.
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The postcard perfect day of sailing on Lake George suddenly turned horrific Sunday when the 40-foot boat the Ethan Allen flipped over so quickly that none of the 47 passengers could put on a life jacket.
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The postcard perfect day of sailing on Lake George suddenly turned horrific Sunday when the 40-foot boat the Ethan Allen flipped over so quickly that none of the 47 passengers could put on a life jacket.
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Nope works just like a quick flea dip. After all if you want to be on the water without a Life Jacket you can, you just end up dead if something happens. There is no law there that says you have to wear one if you are an adult just have one in the boat for each one.
Anyhow I heard on the news that it may have been another large craft that passed to close to them that may have tiped them over.
Elderon the Wise wrote:
Beat you to it TS.
I'd rather post in this thread, although I counter it by posting crap.
I live about 20 minutes from where that happened.
Apparently the boat had been in use for some time, and this had never happened before.
I guess it was a leaf peeping tour and everyone was over on one side, when a wake from another boat hit, it just went n flipped.
Only crew was like a 74 year old captain, and it was pretty much all elderly people. Sucks that they died, but a few people jumped in and saved some lives from shore. That was pretty nice.
Apparently the boat had been in use for some time, and this had never happened before.
I guess it was a leaf peeping tour and everyone was over on one side, when a wake from another boat hit, it just went n flipped.
Only crew was like a 74 year old captain, and it was pretty much all elderly people. Sucks that they died, but a few people jumped in and saved some lives from shore. That was pretty nice.
Broan wrote:
Nope works just like a quick flea dip. After all if you want to be on the water without a Life Jacket you can, you just end up dead if something happens. There is no law there that says you have to wear one if you are an adult just have one in the boat for each one.
I think the laws vary from area to area. Most places are like you said. You don't have to wear them, but you have to have them on the boat. I've certainly never worn a life jacket when on a boat, chartered or not. But then... I can swim really well...
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Anyhow I heard on the news that it may have been another large craft that passed to close to them that may have tiped them over.
Technically, they passed through the wake of the larger boat, not the other way around. While I'm no maritime expert, generally speaking, large ships have right of way (cause they can't turn or stop as quickly). It's the job of the pilot of the smaller craft to avoid the path/wake of larger ones. At least, according to my friend, he's required to give right of way when he's in his little sailboat if there's say an Aircraft Carrier coming his way. But then... who wouldn't?
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That makes sence and all, in NY it may be a bit diffrent though.
I dont know much about Marine laws or anything, but I used to row, and when we would row, motor baots ( much bigger and more powerful) would come by and we would have to ride out wakes so that we wouldnt capsize. They didnt really avoid us, and we didnt try to avoid them.
Im not sure if its diffrent with non motoriezed vehicles, but hey, we never flipped, all is well.
I dont know much about Marine laws or anything, but I used to row, and when we would row, motor baots ( much bigger and more powerful) would come by and we would have to ride out wakes so that we wouldnt capsize. They didnt really avoid us, and we didnt try to avoid them.
Im not sure if its diffrent with non motoriezed vehicles, but hey, we never flipped, all is well.
OmnislashII wrote:
I dont know much about Marine laws or anything, but I used to row, and when we would row, motor baots ( much bigger and more powerful) would come by and we would have to ride out wakes so that we wouldnt capsize. They didnt really avoid us, and we didnt try to avoid them.
Im not sure if its diffrent with non motoriezed vehicles, but hey, we never flipped, all is well.
Im not sure if its diffrent with non motoriezed vehicles, but hey, we never flipped, all is well.
There are rules regarding powered versus non-powered boats. In general, within a similar size class, a powered boat should give right of way to a non-powered one. It's a lot harder to turn a sailboat then a powered boat. How that applies to different size classes is more of a common sense thing. You should have an idea of your maneuverability in relation to other craft around you and respond accordingly. For the most part though, if your craft is large enough to hold 50 passengers legally, and is powered (I'm assuming this is the case), then any thing large enough to tip it over with its wake would definately have right of way.
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