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#1 Sep 22 2005 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good
New Orleans has finally thrown in the proverbial towel. The land reclaimed by the lake and the Mississippi. In other news, the price of gas has risen to $20 per US Gallon, and riots are breaking out everywhere. GWB has been assasinated and the White House is in flames. What will be done to stop this anarchy? Bob help us.


"Only" four more names remain for this year's hurricane season, and that has the media worried - "Oh noes! Now we have to name them in Greek" is their biggest concern. What about the potential effects of a hurricane season this fierce? Did anyone ever think of that? NO! Naming the Bob damn things, and coining new terms is FAR more important.

If that is what concerns the American people, as opposed to the potential chaos in the energy industry, we had better prepare for some very nasty months ahead.





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MIAMI - Hurricane Alpha? Tropical Storm Epsilon? Before this year is out, TV forecasters and coastal residents may have to break out their Greek dictionaries if the Atlantic hurricane season keeps up its frantic pace.

There are only four names left for tropical storms and hurricanes this year: Stan, Tammy, Vince and Wilma. After that, names switch to the 24 letters of the Greek alphabet: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta and so on through Omega, if needed.

That has never happened before in roughly 60 years of regularly named Atlantic storms.

"If we get up into that league, we'll have issues larger than naming these storms," said Frank Lepore, spokesman for the
National Hurricane Center in Miami. "The new phrase will be hurricane fatigue. Let's coin that right now."

So far this season, there have been 17 named storms. Forecasters expect a total of 18 to 21 when the six-month season ends Nov. 30. But with conditions in the atmosphere and Atlantic ripe for storm development, there could be more.

Currently, there are six separate 21-name lists and each of them is used every six years in a rotation. They don't include names that begin with q, u, x, y and z because there aren't enough names starting with those letters.

Only once, since record-keeping began in 1851, have there been 21 tropical storms and hurricanes in the Atlantic. That was in 1933 when forecasters didn't regularly name storms.

What's more, a storm name is retired if it causes widespread damage and deaths. So if there is a deadly Hurricane Alpha, what is it replaced with when it's retired?

"It will go to the Swahili alphabet or something else," joked Jim Lushine, severe weather expert at the
National Weather Service in Miami.

Actually, when old names are retired, new names have to be drafted in to a database maintained specifically for Atlantic Ocean storms, said Mark Oliver, spokesman for the
World Meteorological Organization in Geneva, Switzerland, which maintains the database.

"There's certain specifications which they have to meet," Oliver said. "They have to be fairly easily remembered, they've got to be in alphabetical order."

Other regions take a different approach. In Asia, storms may be given names of people, but also of flowers or other non-human beings, Oliver said. Japan does not participate in this system, preferring instead to number each storm chronologically starting anew each year.

For several hundred years, damaging hurricanes were named after the saint's day when the storm hit. For example, there was Hurricane Santa Ana which hit Puerto Rico on July 26, 1825. According to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, there are saint's days for about a third to a half of all days.

Then, Australian meteorologist Clement Wragge began giving women's names to tropical storms before the end of the 19th century, according to the National Weather Service.

During World War II, storm naming became more common, especially among Air Force and Navy meteorologists who tracked storms over the Pacific Ocean, the weather service said.

From 1950 to 1952, the United States named storms by a phonetic alphabet, starting with Able, Baker and Charlie. That became confusing because the same names were used each year, so female names were used starting in 1953 in a list created by the National Hurricane Center. The first one was called Tropical Storm Alice.

That was considered biased against women, so men's names were added in 1978 in the Pacific and a year later in the Atlantic, with Hurricane Bob.


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#2 Sep 22 2005 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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. What about the potential effects of a hurricane season this fierce?


waht about the next decade?

Is this just supposed to be a temporary thing? mother nature on the rag? Or is this waht we'll have to look forward to from now on?

Our own American monsoon season.
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#3 Sep 22 2005 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
Kelvyquayo, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
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. What about the potential effects of a hurricane season this fierce?


waht about the next decade?

Is this just supposed to be a temporary thing? mother nature on the rag? Or is this waht we'll have to look forward to from now on?

Our own American monsoon season.


I heard somewhere that the ocean temperature has changed a lot since last year, triggering weather changes. Not sure if its 100% true. Also it was the plot of The Day After Tomorrow so ehhh
#4 Sep 22 2005 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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We need people to make movies about every possible disaster that could possibly happen.


Then they can't happen, cause that would be Too Bold!
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#5 Sep 22 2005 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
Kelvyquayo, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
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. What about the potential effects of a hurricane season this fierce?


waht about the next decade?

Is this just supposed to be a temporary thing? mother nature on the rag? Or is this waht we'll have to look forward to from now on?

Our own American monsoon season.


Here is a link to a simple search on Yahoo. The first 5 articles all deal with explaining why the storms are becoming stronger and more frequent. They do not agree on the cause (split between global warming and natural wind pattern changes), but they all agree that this is going to continue for the next 10-35 years.

I was just told that my local gas prices are about to hit $1.70 Canadian per litre. This is $7-8 per US Gallon. Absolutely insane. I am seriously considering getting a 200+ gallon tank for my garage, and only buying during low times. I currently do that with jerry cans, but those only last a week or so. I don't know what to do...
#6 Sep 22 2005 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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There's a documented ~20-year cyclic pattern of temperature change in the Atlantic which corresponds to hurricane activity. We're in the middle of a warm, strong period. By 2020 major hurricanes will be considered a thing of the past. By 2050 we'll probably lose NOLA again once the cycle swings back.
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#7 Sep 22 2005 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
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It's all inter-related..


I remember for year all the hype about "Rising Ocean levels!! OMFG!!"

and Here, we see the grim manifestation of it...

all of the movies (like AI) that show the coastal cities underwater in the future..... This is how it happens.

The water will not just steadily rise around the globe... It's going to come in violent bursts.. like these hurricanes...

Mark me, in 100-200 years.. most of the big coastal cities will look like New Orleans does today. unless I'm wrong.



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#8 Sep 22 2005 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
Debalic wrote:
There's a documented ~20-year cyclic pattern of temperature change in the Atlantic which corresponds to hurricane activity. We're in the middle of a warm, strong period. By 2020 major hurricanes will be considered a thing of the past. By 2050 we'll probably lose NOLA again once the cycle swings back.


Who cares about the bayou, what about the Bob damn oil prices!!? Smiley: mad
#9 Sep 22 2005 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
Texas is shutting down oil refineries for up to 5 days. Gas in the US should raise (at least in my area) $5

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Kelvy wrote:
We need people to make movies about every possible disaster that could possibly happen.


Then they can't happen, cause that would be Too Bold!


I remember several months ago (5 or 6) there was some cheesy made for TV movie on FX about a Category 5 Hurricane hitting the Gulf Coast and crippling our country with oil shortages. Its kinda creepy how dead on the movie has been so far...
#10 Sep 22 2005 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Gas in the US should raise (at least in my area) $5



man... yeah, i heard that too...

I think we're goona have some riots... people aren't going to be able to afford that ****...


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#11 Sep 22 2005 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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#12 Sep 22 2005 at 12:17 PM Rating: Good
Gas prices are most definately going to go up.

The city I live in has major traffic jams near every gas pump right now. Both lanes of traffic on streets with gas stations are clogged by people queueing for the gas stations. The chaos has begun.
#13 Sep 22 2005 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
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I hate what this is doing to the gas prices, but in my world, weather extremes are teh coolest. It's been sunny and boring here for about a month. I'm ready for another tornado or severe lightening storm. But Rita is too far south to do much to our weather in TN. Dammit.
#14 Sep 22 2005 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Mistress Nadenue wrote:
I hate what this is doing to the gas prices, but in my world, weather extremes are teh coolest. It's been sunny and boring here for about a month. I'm ready for another tornado or severe lightening storm. But Rita is too far south to do much to our weather in TN. Dammit.

I feel the same way.

If you guys down there don't want any more hurricanes, just send em up the coast. I'd love another Floyd!
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#15 Sep 22 2005 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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I'm hearing $5 per gallon up here as well. I went out today, filled my car as cheaply as I could ($2.99 woohoo) and Im ready to go out and fill up some gas tanks for reserve.


but Nad I agree with you on the boring weather aspect. We havent had a hurricane up here in 13 years and I was getting excited when Ophelia was on her way. Bummed me out when we got nothing. We never get any wild weather up here except for blizzards and even then those are pretty boring comparatively speaking
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Question to you Canadians...

How come disasters here in the US affect your gas prices so much? Doesn't Irving have it's own drilling and refinery system set up there? Or do you rely on oil being shipped through us? I can't think of any natural distasters that could affect you the same way. NS is so far north that hurricanes are significantly weaker by the time they get there. Also, to my knowledge, earth quakes are seldom seen above the 5.0 scale on the middle of a techtonic plate.

Thanks.
#17 Sep 22 2005 at 2:22 PM Rating: Good
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Question to you Canadians...

How come disasters here in the US affect your gas prices so much? Doesn't Irving have it's own drilling and refinery system set up there? Or do you rely on oil being shipped through us? I can't think of any natural distasters that could affect you the same way. NS is so far north that hurricanes are significantly weaker by the time they get there. Also, to my knowledge, earth quakes are seldom seen above the 5.0 scale on the middle of a techtonic plate.

Thanks.


Excellent question. The answer is quite simple. It does not directly affect us in regards to lost production or market. THe problem is that oil is priced on a "global market" and whatever the rest of the world is paying, we pay. Our government is full of fuc[b][/b]king morans and they better find a way out of this ******** pricing soon or the politians are going to have their hands full with protesters. I for one am very Smiley: mad.
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