Not nearly enough people died for all the hype that stupid storm got. Ok, so some slums got flooded. Get over it already. If nothing else, think of the 'cane as a gigantic toilet bowl flushing all the crap that was Nawlines down the tube. No big loss.
As for Dubya hating all them black folk, wouldn't it make more sense to say that Mother Nature hates black folk more? After all, she is the one who targetted them in the first place. In that spirit, I believe NOAA needs to be more sensitive about the feelings of that specific race of people. Considering all the black-on-black violence that goes on in cesspools like New Ghetto, errr Orleans, I think that future storms should not have white bread Nordic names like "Katrina," but rather ethno-centric monikers like "Hurricane Timeka" or "Hurricane Sequeesha." That way black folk can better accept their lot in life as Nature's punching bag.
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Oh, and save your "Hurricane Rick James" posts for a different board, ok? I'm light years ahead of you guys since I've been up since 4 AM.
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You are an insensitive prick Totem.
Call me.
Call me.
Even leaning closer to the liberal views than conservative in most cases, I find it odd that so many democrats are actually using the race card. While I find the way things were handled completely atrocious, I would expect there are more dire things to harp on than try to make Bush out to be a racist pig. He's a horrible leader, but even I have a hard time believing the bulls[b][/b]hit stories that people held back because the majority of people were black
Lady deadsidedemon wrote:
but even I have a hard time believing the bulls[b][/b]hit stories that people held back because the majority of people were black
No, they held back because the majority of the people were poor. They can't help it that the poor people in this case just happened to be black.
Lady deadsidedemon wrote:
Even leaning closer to the liberal views than conservative in most cases, I find it odd that so many democrats are actually using the race card.
CNN wrote:
White and black Americans view Hurricane Katrina's aftermath in starkly different ways, with more blacks viewing race as a factor in problems with the federal response, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Monday.
The poll found that six in 10 blacks interviewed said the federal government was slow in rescuing those stranded in New Orleans after Katrina because many of the people in the Louisiana city were black. But only about one in eight white respondents shared that view.
The poll found that six in 10 blacks interviewed said the federal government was slow in rescuing those stranded in New Orleans after Katrina because many of the people in the Louisiana city were black. But only about one in eight white respondents shared that view.
I suppose you could say that since more blacks vote Democratic than Republican, more Democrats blame it on race but making the divide a strictly partisan issue isn't really accurate.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I'm just stating what I've seen. Whether its political or not, the politcal partys have picked their sides on the race issue for katrina and going blow for blow. It just seems a waste of time for it to even be a subject to argue over, when there are more important problems that need to be addressed
Especially when you consider, Deadside, that the black mayor of Nawlines failed even more miserably than the Feds did, if they failed at all. What do I mean by that comment? Read the transcript of "Meet the Press" where Tim Russert lays it all out how incompetent Ray Nagin is in terms of discharging his responsibilities.
Meet the Press
Totem
Meet the Press
Totem
To me it seems an on-going story. Many levels that will be discuused and analyzed til Christmas.
The Storm itself-OVER
The Storms After Effects-OVER
The Recovery- NOT YET A CONCEARN
The faults of FEMA, etc-
its fun to point fingers and belittle a Government that so many have lost faith in.
The Storm itself-OVER
The Storms After Effects-OVER
The Recovery- NOT YET A CONCEARN
The faults of FEMA, etc-
its fun to point fingers and belittle a Government that so many have lost faith in.
Lady deadsidedemon wrote:
I'm just stating what I've seen. Whether its political or not, the politcal partys have picked their sides on the race issue for katrina and going blow for blow.
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It just seems a waste of time for it to even be a subject to argue over, when there are more important problems that need to be addressed
"By the time I'm finished (being) president, I hope you'll realize that the government can do more than one thing at one time and individuals in the government can. If I'm focusing on the hurricane, I've got the capacity to focus on foreign policy, and vice versa." -- Bush, 9/12/05
I hope we won't have to hear any more of McClellan saying "We can't talk about this now! Now's not the time for the blame game!" when Bush himself admits we can do more than one thing at a time.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Liberal Media Bias.
I've been getting my info from the radio news here in Boston, and it seems that the race card is the most imporatnt issue lately around here. It could be just where I live that its getting so much attention by the local stations but I dont get why it's even an issue
/nod
The ball was dropped too many times on this, by local, state, and federal government. I'd rather we focus on why and fix it, and hold those who are guilty of dropping the ball so it doesnt happen again
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Whatever went wrong in the entire thing, front to back should be discussed now. Local, state and federal. Unless someone can say exactly when the next catastrophic event will take place on American soil, there's no benefit to delaying the questions.
"By the time I'm finished (being) president, I hope you'll realize that the government can do more than one thing at one time and individuals in the government can. If I'm focusing on the hurricane, I've got the capacity to focus on foreign policy, and vice versa." -- Bush, 9/12/05
I hope we won't have to hear any more of McClellan saying "We can't talk about this now! Now's not the time for the blame game!" when Bush himself admits we can do more than one thing at a time.
"By the time I'm finished (being) president, I hope you'll realize that the government can do more than one thing at one time and individuals in the government can. If I'm focusing on the hurricane, I've got the capacity to focus on foreign policy, and vice versa." -- Bush, 9/12/05
I hope we won't have to hear any more of McClellan saying "We can't talk about this now! Now's not the time for the blame game!" when Bush himself admits we can do more than one thing at a time.
/nod
The ball was dropped too many times on this, by local, state, and federal government. I'd rather we focus on why and fix it, and hold those who are guilty of dropping the ball so it doesnt happen again
Totem is right on all counts. The worlds other events/news has been eclipsed by Katrina and the asshat media that cater to it like Fresh Meat in the Asylum.
Anytime anyone mentions Hurricane Katrina around me now I say "Ya I heard New Orleans got a little rain there."
Anytime anyone mentions Hurricane Katrina around me now I say "Ya I heard New Orleans got a little rain there."
Well, considering that there are about 100 agencies (give or take a dozen) ranging from the local to federal level designed ostensibly to deal with these very disasters and not one of them got it right, I imagine there is alot of blame to spread around.
Part of it as I see it, is the same thing I perceive happening on a daily basis: blacks believe the gubbment is soley responsible for their health and well being, from cradle to grave. This, of course, is part and parcel why blacks remain firmly esconced in the Democratic Party's pocket (for whatever good that does). To think that it is the person's responsibility to take care of themselves and gather the necessary food and water, take shelter or move out of the storm's path is apparently beyond the scope of their imagination.
Totem
Part of it as I see it, is the same thing I perceive happening on a daily basis: blacks believe the gubbment is soley responsible for their health and well being, from cradle to grave. This, of course, is part and parcel why blacks remain firmly esconced in the Democratic Party's pocket (for whatever good that does). To think that it is the person's responsibility to take care of themselves and gather the necessary food and water, take shelter or move out of the storm's path is apparently beyond the scope of their imagination.
Totem
Totem wrote:
Well, considering that there are about 100 agencies (give or take a dozen) ranging from the local to federal level designed ostensibly to deal with these very disasters and not one of them got it right, I imagine there is alot of blame to spread around.
Really, there's not much I can do about Nagin whether I approve of him or not. I suppose I could demand some sort of Federal oversight to the local works but you're already crying about people wanting the federal government to take care of them. I can't do much about Louisiana. The federal response however, specifically that of FEMA and DHS, is of particular importance to me because I do have some voting influence over them (however minute as an individual). It's certainly my responsibility to educate myself as to what happened all around so I don't inaccurately place or remove blame from the wrong people but I think most people are more interested in the flaws at the federal level because that's where their votes matter. They may or may not agree that NOLA screwed up or that LA screwed up but they're sensitive to when the USA screws up.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
One of the reasons I can't stand to watch the news on this any more is that they keep trying to make this a race issue. It's not a race issue, it's a class issue. The large majority of those who did not evacuate before the hurricane were living off the government. They were waiting for their check to come in and Katrina came in first. They didn't have any money to evacuate with, so they stayed. It just so happens that the majority of the poor people living off the government tit in Nawlins were black. It's not that the government was dragging it's feet getting in there because there were just a bunch of black people left, but because there were just a bunch of poor leeches on society left. They figured if a few more of them died off than was necessary, maybe we'd get a nice tax break next year.
I'm buying a big screen with my tax return, but I promise to watch The Cosby Show in sindication as my penance.
I'm buying a big screen with my tax return, but I promise to watch The Cosby Show in sindication as my penance.
Some people are like slinkies, they aren't really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
Associated Press wrote:
Sep 13, 12:13 PM EDT
Bush Takes Responsibility for Blunders
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush said Tuesday that "I take responsibility" for failures in dealing with Hurricane Katrina and said the disaster raised broader questions about the government's ability to respond to natural disasters as well as terror attacks.
"Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government," Bush said at joint White House news conference with the president of Iraq.
"To the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush said.
The president was asked whether people should be worried about the government's ability to handle another terrorist attack given failures in responding to Katrina.
"Are we capable of dealing with a severe attack? That's a very important question and it's in the national interest that we find out what went on so we can better respond," Bush replied.
He said he wanted to know both what went wrong and what went right.
As for blunders in the federal response, "I'm not going to defend the process going in," Bush said. "I am going to defend the people saving lives."
He praised relief workers at all levels. "I want people in America to understand how hard people worked to save lives down there," he said.
Paulison says this not the time to examine what went wrong early in the Katrina relief effort.
Bush spoke after R. David Paulison, the new acting director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, pledged to intensify efforts to find more permanent housing for the tens of thousands of Hurricane Katrina survivors now in shelters.
Bush Takes Responsibility for Blunders
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush said Tuesday that "I take responsibility" for failures in dealing with Hurricane Katrina and said the disaster raised broader questions about the government's ability to respond to natural disasters as well as terror attacks.
"Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government," Bush said at joint White House news conference with the president of Iraq.
"To the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush said.
The president was asked whether people should be worried about the government's ability to handle another terrorist attack given failures in responding to Katrina.
"Are we capable of dealing with a severe attack? That's a very important question and it's in the national interest that we find out what went on so we can better respond," Bush replied.
He said he wanted to know both what went wrong and what went right.
As for blunders in the federal response, "I'm not going to defend the process going in," Bush said. "I am going to defend the people saving lives."
He praised relief workers at all levels. "I want people in America to understand how hard people worked to save lives down there," he said.
Paulison says this not the time to examine what went wrong early in the Katrina relief effort.
Bush spoke after R. David Paulison, the new acting director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, pledged to intensify efforts to find more permanent housing for the tens of thousands of Hurricane Katrina survivors now in shelters.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
"What didn't go right?" - Alfred E. Neumann
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
KakarSmakar wrote:
One of the reasons I can't stand to watch the news on this any more is that they keep trying to make this a race issue. It's not a race issue, it's a class issue. The large majority of those who did not evacuate before the hurricane were living off the government. They were waiting for their check to come in and Katrina came in first. They didn't have any money to evacuate with, so they stayed. It just so happens that the majority of the poor people living off the government tit in Nawlins were black. It's not that the government was dragging it's feet getting in there because there were just a bunch of black people left, but because there were just a bunch of poor leeches on society left. They figured if a few more of them died off than was necessary, maybe we'd get a nice tax break next year.
I'm buying a big screen with my tax return, but I promise to watch The Cosby Show in sindication as my penance.
I'm buying a big screen with my tax return, but I promise to watch The Cosby Show in sindication as my penance.
echo?
Parrotheadsweetie wrote:
Lady deadsidedemon wrote:
but even I have a hard time believing the bulls[b][/b]hit stories that people held back because the majority of people were black
No, they held back because the majority of the people were poor. They can't help it that the poor people in this case just happened to be black.
From what I've been reading its clear that all the money that Bush and his administration have bled away from infrastructure to support and pay for his war in Iraq and domestic
"boogeyman chasing" left the United States at a weakened position to deal with a problem such as this.
Also (my main beef) for years now Bush has been riding on the disaster that was Sept 11, 2001. How he was the man to lead in that disaster. That he was taking steps that if a disaster hit america again that you would be better prepared to deal with it. So when a disaster with lots of advance warning strikes the US everything is a complete cluster ****. No one knows who is charge, there is no chain of command, there is no accountability and things fall apart. Hell it took Bush 4 days to come off vacation and actually start doing something. In fact things are worse than before 9/11 and it becomes apparent that the man Bush appointed to head FEMA was not up to the job and that FEMA and Dept of Homeland security were completely useless after they came in and took charge.
That is my problem. For years Bush has used the whole "safety and security" and ability to deal with disaster angle as a platform. In the end his withdrawing funding to infrastructure and merging Dept of HLS and FEMA and the people he appointed to them were useless and he was on vacation and absent when the whole thing was going down.
"boogeyman chasing" left the United States at a weakened position to deal with a problem such as this.
Also (my main beef) for years now Bush has been riding on the disaster that was Sept 11, 2001. How he was the man to lead in that disaster. That he was taking steps that if a disaster hit america again that you would be better prepared to deal with it. So when a disaster with lots of advance warning strikes the US everything is a complete cluster ****. No one knows who is charge, there is no chain of command, there is no accountability and things fall apart. Hell it took Bush 4 days to come off vacation and actually start doing something. In fact things are worse than before 9/11 and it becomes apparent that the man Bush appointed to head FEMA was not up to the job and that FEMA and Dept of Homeland security were completely useless after they came in and took charge.
That is my problem. For years Bush has used the whole "safety and security" and ability to deal with disaster angle as a platform. In the end his withdrawing funding to infrastructure and merging Dept of HLS and FEMA and the people he appointed to them were useless and he was on vacation and absent when the whole thing was going down.
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Totem wrote:
Anybody else tired of hearing about Hurricane Katrina?
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KakarSmakar wrote:
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One of the reasons I can't stand to watch the news on this any more is that they keep trying to make this a race issue. It's not a race issue, it's a class issue. The large majority of those who did not evacuate before the hurricane were living off the government. They were waiting for their check to come in and Katrina came in first. They didn't have any money to evacuate with, so they stayed. It just so happens that the majority of the poor people living off the government tit in Nawlins were black. It's not that the government was dragging it's feet getting in there because there were just a bunch of black people left, but because there were just a bunch of poor leeches on society left. They figured if a few more of them died off than was necessary, maybe we'd get a nice tax break next year.
I'm buying a big screen with my tax return, but I promise to watch The Cosby Show in sindication as my penance.
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echo?
Parrotheadsweetie wrote:
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Lady deadsidedemon wrote:
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but even I have a hard time believing the ******** stories that people held back because the majority of people were black
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No, they held back because the majority of the people were poor. They can't help it that the poor people in this case just happened to be black.
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One of the reasons I can't stand to watch the news on this any more is that they keep trying to make this a race issue. It's not a race issue, it's a class issue. The large majority of those who did not evacuate before the hurricane were living off the government. They were waiting for their check to come in and Katrina came in first. They didn't have any money to evacuate with, so they stayed. It just so happens that the majority of the poor people living off the government tit in Nawlins were black. It's not that the government was dragging it's feet getting in there because there were just a bunch of black people left, but because there were just a bunch of poor leeches on society left. They figured if a few more of them died off than was necessary, maybe we'd get a nice tax break next year.
I'm buying a big screen with my tax return, but I promise to watch The Cosby Show in sindication as my penance.
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echo?
Parrotheadsweetie wrote:
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Lady deadsidedemon wrote:
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but even I have a hard time believing the ******** stories that people held back because the majority of people were black
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No, they held back because the majority of the people were poor. They can't help it that the poor people in this case just happened to be black.
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If an echo has more content, utilizes sarcasm and even irony, then yes.
I suppose both posts contain a few of the same words.
Like I even read that post.
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Roller the Charming wrote:
Totem wrote:
Anybody else tired of hearing about Hurricane Katrina?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
FOX wrote:
Not enough Darkies actually drowned for us to care anymore! Day 82 of missing chick in Aruba! Next!
Somthing like that?
Anybody else tired of hearing about Hurricane Katrina?
Totem, considering the fact that being able to just change the channel is a great advantage you have over me at this point, you shouldn't complain.
You're also not surrounded with people wearing "I survived Katrina" tees.
Totem, considering the fact that being able to just change the channel is a great advantage you have over me at this point, you shouldn't complain.
You're also not surrounded with people wearing "I survived Katrina" tees.
DiscipleOfKain wrote:
Anybody else tired of hearing about Hurricane Katrina?
Totem, considering the fact that being able to just take a dip in my pool a great advantage you have over me at this point, you shouldn't complain.
You're also not surrounded with people wearing "I can't use my Swimming Pool" Hugo Boss neck-ties.
Totem, considering the fact that being able to just take a dip in my pool a great advantage you have over me at this point, you shouldn't complain.
You're also not surrounded with people wearing "I can't use my Swimming Pool" Hugo Boss neck-ties.
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