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#27 Sep 02 2005 at 10:06 AM Rating: Default
Im going to the Astrodome this weekend and handing out applications to where I work at. I know these people have families to feed and I will be GOD FU[/u]CKING DAMNED if I'm going to sit on my *** eating cheetos and playing FFXI while my fellow Americans need to GET ER DONE!
#28 Sep 02 2005 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Im going to the Astrodome this weekend and handing out applications to Walmart and McDonalds. I know these people have families to feed and I will be GOD FU[/u]CKING DAMNED if I'm going to sit on my *** eating cheetos and playing FFXI while my fellow Americans need to GET ER DONE!


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#29 Sep 02 2005 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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What do you suggest they eat and drink? The food that has all been looted and hoarded already, or the gasoline soaked sewage filled corpse water swirling around their waists?


The point I was trying to make is that people with the basic survival skills wouldn't have to remain in the city. They wouldn't be bound to the super dome in hopes of rescue and waiting on food and water.


Right, and whats the excuse for the women in labor during the hurricane and couldnt get out? I was listening to the radio where several babies were born during Katrina. But of course, the mothers, fathers, and newborns should have known not to go into labor at the time right?
#30 Sep 02 2005 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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That's crap. Everyone can do their part; even if it's just buying some water and going to your local wal-mart and help loading donations in the semi's. Most of us can't just up and leave but there's stuff each of us can do. And don't tell me you can't go to the american red cross website and donation 15 or 20 bucks on a debit or credit card.
Which just proves you haven't even gone to the Red Cross' website yourself and read it.

They do NOT want donations of goods, food, used clothing, blankets, water, etc.. They do NOT want volunteers showing up uninvited. They want cash donations only. Donating goods only causes them extra work of having to sort and store the items & creates the extra expense of having to transport those goods.

Want to help? Go to the FEMA website and follow the links and recommendations there.

Hey! Thanks for the rate down! Suggesting the correct course of action really was out of line of me.

Edited, Fri Sep 2 18:48:50 2005 by Yanari
#31 Sep 02 2005 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Right, and whats the excuse for the women in labor during the hurricane and couldnt get out? I was listening to the radio where several babies were born during Katrina.
Rapes aside, I want to know numbers for the amount of Superdome Babies we see in May Smiley: grin
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#32 Sep 02 2005 at 11:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I do not have any spare cash to donate, but I had put aside a couple hundred dollars in the budget for the family to do something this holiday weekend. Instead I think we will stay home and donate that money
#34 Sep 02 2005 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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Right, and whats the excuse for the women in labor during the hurricane and couldnt get out? I was listening to the radio where several babies were born during Katrina.
Rapes aside, I want to know numbers for the amount of Superdome Babies we see in May Smiley: grin


Ugh. While I may have a healthy sexual appetite, Im pretty sure I would NOT have been in the mood if I were one of the refugees.
#35 Sep 02 2005 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Seriously. . . Why are you even contemplating this?

  • Is there a shortage of able-bodied people in the area?
    That'd be a 'No'
  • Does the US Government lack the money to pay for food, water and shelter for the victims?
    'No' again.
  • Do you have a unique set of skills and experience of working in disaster relief projects?
    A shot in the dark, but I'm guessing 'No'.

  • There's a big difference between 3rd world disasters (African Famines, Tsunami, Iranian Earthquake) and this one. They occurred in countries with poor resources and infrastructure.

    The only thing that's needed is someone to co-ordinate the efforts and take bloody charge of the situation!

    If I thought lack of money was the problem, I'd put my hand in my pocket.

    If I thought that an influx of people with no practical experience of disaster-aid was what was needed, I'd applaud you for going.

    USA is the wealthiest nation on the fu[/i]cking planet. It just lacks the first fu[i]cking clue on how to target it!

    Jesus!
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    #36 Sep 02 2005 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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    Hey Nobby why dont you offer up your services and take charge down there? They might listen to a snapping British man with the love for the word cnut
    #37 Sep 02 2005 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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    PottyMouth wrote:
    Seriously. . . Why are you even contemplating this?

  • Is there a shortage of able-bodied people in the area?
    That'd be a 'No'
  • Does the US Government lack the money to pay for food, water and shelter for the victims?
    'No' again.
  • Do you have a unique set of skills and experience of working in disaster relief projects?
    A shot in the dark, but I'm guessing 'No'.

  • There's a big difference between 3rd world disasters (African Famines, Tsunami, Iranian Earthquake) and this one. They occurred in countries with poor resources and infrastructure.

    The only thing that's needed is someone to co-ordinate the efforts and take bloody charge of the situation!

    If I thought lack of money was the problem, I'd put my hand in my pocket.

    If I thought that an influx of people with no practical experience of disaster-aid was what was needed, I'd applaud you for going.

    USA is the wealthiest nation on the fu[/i]cking planet. It just lacks the first fu[i]cking clue on how to target it!

    Jesus!


    My thoughts exactly.
    #38 Sep 02 2005 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
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    On seeing the arrival of 'Volunteers' at a disaster zone

    a Medecin-sans-frontieres surgeon wrote:

    Great. More fu[i][/i]cking mouths to feed Smiley: oyvey



    Mind you, Katie may be highly valued there. They may be short of hair-curlers, thrush ointment and tobacco papers?
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    #39 Sep 02 2005 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
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    out how we can volunteer. I mean even if I'm just handing out food or blankets,


    from waht I hear, most volunteers would be answering phones and stuffing envelopes.

    They leave the field work to the professionals.
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    #40 Sep 02 2005 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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    Ugh. While I may have a healthy sexual appetite, Im pretty sure I would NOT have been in the mood if I were one of the refugees.
    Oh sure, not on Day Three when the toilets are overflowing, the lights are out and people are chewing one another's arms off for food. But I bet those first 24-48 hours were pretty long and boring. Plus you've got the whole "we might all die" factor tossed in there. You know SOMEONE was finding a secluded corner or stairwell.
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    #41 Sep 02 2005 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
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    You know SOMEONE was finding a secluded corner or stairwell.


    maybe the rapists.

    I'd bet that most would just be getting on right in the open. It is New Orleans now [:wink2]
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    #42 Sep 02 2005 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
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    to go to LA and help with the clean up? Its either that or go to Houston to help with the refugees there.


    Well, my brother-in-law (the one I've complained about in other threads) has volunteer his services and is leaving in a few days to go to New Orleans. The way I understand it is that he's getting room, board, food and a daily stipend/per diem. Not sure if it's a good idea that he's going to help as he's refused to help himself as he's out of money, out of a job (supposedly on workman's comp) and is about to lose his apartment.

    I don't know if it was an altruistic motive on his part. But maybe by him seeing that there are thousands of people that have lost everything in the blink of an eye, he'll realize that he's luckier than most and get his own life back together.
    #43 Sep 02 2005 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
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    Right, and whats the excuse for the women in labor during the hurricane and couldnt get out? I was listening to the radio where several babies were born during Katrina. But of course, the mothers, fathers, and newborns should have known not to go into labor at the time right?


    I'm saying it would help out a lot. As in if many other healthy people could have gotten away it would leave more room and supplies for people who can't fend for themselves.
    #44 Sep 02 2005 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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    Fu[/b]ck the government. I donated, and I'll be heading down to the local city hall tonight to see what else I can do. Load trucks, gather canned foods, gather donations door to door, whatever the fu[b]ck I gotta do to help.

    This is bullsh[/b]it that everyone has sat on their fu[b]cking thumbs while people are down there starving, killing each other for food or worse.

    I'll try to do what little I can; I just hope I can do something.

    Edit: Yea, thank you captain-fu[/b]cking-obvious. I realize that they are not accepting food and clothes, but their has to be SOMETHING I can do. I won't be as belittling as your hypocritical *** is, I will at least TRY to do something. Instead of trash like you, sitting on your *** telling everyone "they don't need our help, it's the governments' fault their not getting help"

    Fu[b]
    ck your shi[b][/b]tty self-absorbed attitude. Just cuz the gov screwed the pooch on this one doesn't mean I should show them that humanity will too.

    Edited, Fri Sep 2 14:14:47 2005 by Molish
    #45 Sep 02 2005 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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    I realize that they are not accepting food and clothes, but their has to be SOMETHING I can do. I won't be as belittling as your hypocritical *** is, I will at least TRY to do something.


    I respect your sentiments, but do what exactly?

    They don't need more mouths to feed. They don't need more people to transport around.

    I know it's awful to see suffering and feel helpless, but there's nothing you can do but demand that your country starts working for its citizens and not for its institutions.

    The people haven't failed. The system has failed. Change the system!

    INSIST that your elected officials have plans for disasters.
    Vote out those who put their own or their sponsors interests above the needs of the electorate.

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    #46 Sep 02 2005 at 5:47 PM Rating: Decent
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    I respect your sentiments, but do what exactly?

    They don't need more mouths to feed. They don't need more people to transport around.

    I know it's awful to see suffering and feel helpless, but there's nothing you can do but demand that your country starts working for its citizens and not for its institutions.

    The people haven't failed. The system has failed. Change the system!

    INSIST that your elected officials have plans for disasters.
    Vote out those who put their own or their sponsors interests above the needs of the electorate.


    I understand that they don't need more people hampering the collective effort down there, but I intentionally meant efforts to support from here where I am. Like most of us, I can't drop everything and just go down there, but I can dedicate time and money here. I dropped a donation already, and plan to do so every check for quite some time now.

    But, there has to be something more. Collecting money from people door to door, making sure to donate canned goods? I dunno. You hit the nail on the head though, I feel so painfully helpless.

    Yea, the government really fuc[/b]ked this one over badly. But that only serves to give the people a chance to rise up above the pettiness and stupidity of our leaders. A chance to say "you stupid bas[b]tards don't care, but we do"
    /stops channeling shadowrelm

    How..? That, I really wish I knew.

    edit: ya know, if I actually read your post fully, I'd know how now that I've thought about it more then 5 seconds.
    So, whats it take to run for Illinois state representative?

    ....Deep pockets, probally.....


    Edited, Fri Sep 2 18:54:12 2005 by Molish
    #47 Sep 02 2005 at 5:53 PM Rating: Good
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    I respect your sentiments, but do what exactly?

    They don't need more mouths to feed. They don't need more people to transport around.

    I know it's awful to see suffering and feel helpless, but there's nothing you can do but demand that your country starts working for its citizens and not for its institutions.

    The people haven't failed. The system has failed. Change the system!

    INSIST that your elected officials have plans for disasters.
    Vote out those who put their own or their sponsors interests above the needs of the electorate.


    I understand that they don't need more people hampering the collective effort down there, but I intentionally meant efforts to support from here where I am. Like most of us, I can't drop everything and just go down there, but I can dedicate time and money here. I dropped a donation already, and plan to do so every check for quite some time now.

    But, there has to be something more. Collecting money from people door to door, making sure to donate canned goods? I dunno. You hit the nail on the head though, I feel so painfully helpless.

    Yea, the government really fuc[/b]ked this one over badly. But that only serves to give the people a chance to rise up above the pettiness and stupidity of our leaders. A chance to say "you stupid bas[b]tards don't care, but we do"
    /stops channeling shadowrelm

    How..? That, I really wish I knew.


    Again, I'm asking why?

    Where's the money shortage? The USA has billions of dollars.

    I really do sympathise, but you're simply adding a few drops to an ocean of money.

    The problem isn't money. Not in a month of Sundays.

    Not one red cent you give will make a difference until someone starts co-ordinating.

    Food aid needs targeting at the needy, not heli-dropped for the fit and healthy to scavenge.

    Water and power need restoring.

    Where do you think your money will go? Huh?

    It will simply allow tax-payers' dollars to stay in Washington.

    Stop being gullible!!!

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    #48 Sep 02 2005 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
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    Again, I'm asking why?

    Where's the money shortage? The USA has billions of dollars.

    I really do sympathise, but you're simply adding a few drops to an ocean of money.

    The problem isn't money. Not in a month of Sundays.

    Not one red cent you give will make a difference until someone starts co-ordinating.

    Food aid needs targeting at the needy, not heli-dropped for the fit and healthy to scavenge.

    Water and power need restoring.

    Where do you think your money will go? Huh?

    It will simply allow tax-payers' dollars to stay in Washington.

    Stop being gullible!!!


    Your missing the point. I know my country has billions, I know we have the food. Yet people are starving. I understand that I should vote and elect different leaders that have the people in their hearts when they step into office.

    But what fu[/b]cking good does that do the people starving right now? I'm sure their be happy to hear I'm voting in the next elections to change the course of actions for disaster recovery. I'm sure that will help so many there right now that are starving, poor, thirsty, cold, and dieing.

    I can get my money ot the red cross, I can spare a few more dollars to the salvation army. I can donate food and clothing (even thgouth it might not reach them RIGHT away), water, and what ever else I have down to the clothes on my back, I can shove all this sh[b]
    it right in the governments' fu[b][/b]cking face becuase they COULD have, but I did.

    That the difference Nobby, they could have done alot to save lives, but I DID.

    And I will continue to do more then my own government, because apathy for the current situation will only let more die.

    Edited, Fri Sep 2 19:13:52 2005 by Molish
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    Well PottyMouth, we average citizens are not in a position to organize and implement large scale relief efforts. That's what we elect representatives for.

    We've become complacent and ignorant enough that we have decided to stop demanding that our government agencies be truly accountable for things like disaster contingency planning, if they ever were really accountable. Even so, there are a lot of people that want to help if they can, and they don't necessarily want the help to be provided in the form of a government hand-out.

    What do you suggest we citizens do while our government sits with their thumbs up their asses?
    #50 Sep 02 2005 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
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    Molish wrote:
    I'm not making one iota of difference but at least I'm making myself feel better
    I think that's it

    Molish. There is nothing you can do.

    Feeling helpless hurts. Live with it.
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    Yanari the Puissant wrote:
    What do you suggest we citizens do while our government sits with their thumbs up their asses?


    In this situation. . . Nothing.

    There is nothing you can do in the face of such a huge disaster.

    You live in a dream world that's convinced you that there's always an answer.

    Shi[/i]t happens. In this case, appalling sh[i]it.

    But as there's no coordinated aid plan. they're fu[i][/i]cked and nothing you do right now will make a difference.

    You just can't accept that can you!

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