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#78 Sep 02 2005 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Ahh come on YSU you know for a fact if it was the scallies in liverpool everyone would be all for letting the city drown so long as Stevie Gerrard got out in time.
#79 Sep 02 2005 at 12:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kelvyquayo, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
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Bush hoped that his tour of the hurricane-ravaged states would boost the spirits of increasingly desperate storm victims and their tired rescuers
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Especially from a helicopter far above the action.

Believe it or not, I'm not directly ******** at Bush on this one. I think there were major fu[i][/i]ck ups at ALL levels of planning but I don't think anyone went to Bush six months ago and said "Come up with an evacuation plan for New Orleans in case of major flooding, boss". But if I was sitting for five days at the Superdome, seeing the president's helicopter fly over would, at best, make me wish that helicopter was perhaps carting some people to safety.
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#80 Sep 02 2005 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
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It's New Orleans people, a place where girls get their boobies out. Alot. For Free.

I mean if that's not a city worth saving, I don't know what is.
#81 Sep 02 2005 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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It's New Orleans people, a place where girls get their boobies out. Alot. For Free.


for beads ^^


I've been singing the House of the Rising Sun all week
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#82 Sep 02 2005 at 12:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've got the ways and means to New Orleans
I'm goin' down by the river where it's warm and green
I'm gonna have a drink and walk about
I've got a lot to think about... oh yeah
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#83 Sep 02 2005 at 12:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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saveneworleans wrote:
I can't believe you guys are polticising this.


Thanks for the insight, Varus
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#84 Sep 02 2005 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, I'm sailin', sailin'
place Ive never seen,
Thats way down south
Sweet ole New Orleans

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#85 Sep 02 2005 at 12:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hey, no one takes him seriously even as a sock! Smiley: laugh
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#86 Sep 02 2005 at 1:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Persnally, while I can't really feel too sorry for the ones that chose to stay there, I feel really bad for the folks in hospital and the tourists who didn't have cars. They're just majorly fuc[/i]ked and it's not their fault. I also think that Homeland Security is a totally bullsh[/i]it organization that was just made for beaurocratic reasons, and doesn't have much bearing on reality. I've been listening to C-SPAN radio, and listening to their speeches, and I'm amazed at the long lenghts of total BS they go through just to do simple things, making long-winded proclamations about temporary law changes and vague plans, deflecting any questions about actual plans or about how we can improve in the future when stuff like this happens.

I'm also really pissed once again at my fiancee's dad, since he believes that everyone's doing a great job with the hurricane since we got most of the white folks out anyway.
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#87 Sep 02 2005 at 1:14 PM Rating: Decent
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What's even more infuriating is that everyone seems to be ignoring the real issues at hand here. Where in the hell are we going to have Mardi Gras in '06?! Maybe New Orleans will become the new Lake Havasu?
#88 Sep 02 2005 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
Mardi Gras in Galveston!
#89 Sep 02 2005 at 3:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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The Chicago Tribune wrote:
Frustration about the federal response to Hurricane Katrina has reached Chicago City Hall, as Mayor Richard Daley today noted a tepid response by federal officials to the city's offers of disaster aid.

The city is willing to send hundreds of personnel, including firefighters and police, and dozens of vehicles to assist on the storm-battered Gulf Coast, but so far the Federal Emergency Management Agency has requested only a single tank truck, Daley said.

"I was shocked," he said.

"We are ready to provide considerably more help than they have requested," the mayor said, barely able to contain his anger during a City Hall news conference. "We are just waiting for the call."
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Even before the storm hit the Gulf Coast on Monday, he said, the city's Office of Emergency Management and Communications had contacted emergency response agencies in Illinois and Washington.

In the event of a disaster, the city offered to send 44 Chicago Fire Department rescue and medical personnel and their gear, more than 100 Chicago police officers, 140 Streets and Sanitation, 146 Public Health and 8 Human Services workers, and a fleet of vehicles including 29 trucks, two boats and a mobile clinic.

"So far FEMA has requested only one piece of equipment -- a tank truck to support the Illinois Emergency Response Team, which is already down there," Daley said. "The tank truck is on its way. We are awaiting further instructions from FEMA."
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#90 Sep 02 2005 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
Wow, thats awfully nice of Chicago.. I wonder why FEMA would turn away all that help.
#91 Sep 02 2005 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
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Well, I can think of 2 reasons.

A) They are ignorant.
B) They have 0 leadership, so nobody knows what they actually need, and no one is making decisions.


Edit: spelling ;_;

Edited, Fri Sep 2 16:41:45 2005 by TravestyOfAsura
#92 Sep 02 2005 at 3:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lefein wrote:
Wow, thats awfully nice of Chicago.. I wonder why FEMA would turn away all that help.
Dunno. I suppose there's an issue with law enforcement but I'm sure there's a procedure in place to quickly deputize out of state cops while they're in the disaster area. Nothing else seems any more insurmountable than during 9/11 when New York was happy to take all sorts of out-of-state help in the form of people and equipment.

Daley's been friggin' obsessive about disaster and emergency scenarios since 9/11 anyway. I'm sure whatever and whoever the Chicago Office of Emergency Management is offering is well trained and new, modern equipment.
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#93 Sep 02 2005 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
On the topic of insurance:

So I own a home. I have insurance. I live in California, thus I also have earthquake insurance. My primary insurance does not cover flood. Basically, it only covers fire and (major) theft. I asked. This, I had to buy or else I couldn't get a loan.

The earthquake insurance is through a private insurance company, but is backed by the state of California. Apparently, no matter who you buy it through, it is really the same thing, I guess the thinking is since you're already buying insurance from a company, why write two checks? Why not let that company do the bookeeping. It costs about as much as the "regular" insurance. This was optional. The rate varies based on where you live and how likely a quake is to hit there.

Apparently private insurance comapnies found creative uses of business law to avoid paying in the '94 Northridge quake, thus the state backed insurance.

It might be a useful system to replicate in the hurricane prone regions of the US.

Nuclear power plants recieve a great deal of attention, despite the studies showing the second worst nuclear accident in history (worst in US history) did so little harm, it is debatable if any was done (to citizens of the surrounding communities):
http://www.ans.org/pi/matters/tmi/healthstudies.html
http://www.tmia.com/healthsafety/wing4.html

Fear dominates all talk of risks.
#94 Sep 02 2005 at 5:04 PM Rating: Good
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Hey Yossarian

I can sell you a policy against being called an cu[/i]nt, but the premiums are [i]high.

But with the premium you get an avatard and smilies
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