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#27 Sep 01 2005 at 12:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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#28 Sep 01 2005 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
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Many of those who stayed did so because they lacked the ways and means to leave town.

When did they announce all of those people had broken legs? I missed it. I could totally understand if they were indeed unable to strap on a backpack and hike north.
#29 Sep 01 2005 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
I fail to believe your statment is true.

Three days is a long time to do anything like that. Sure every little detail might not be covered, but they could have made enough decisions to start mobilizing resuce support and getting it to the general area (but safe from the storm) so things could be moving along faster.

With all of the notice they had, why weren't more mass transit options being used to help people evacuate? There is now currently a floating hospital en route to the area to assist. Couldn't this not have been brought in closer so it might've been able to arrive sooner than 3 or 4 days? How much time in advance do you need to make a decision like that?

#30 Sep 01 2005 at 12:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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When did they announce all of those people had broken legs? I missed it. I could totally understand if they were indeed unable to strap on a backpack and hike north.
Because sitting on the roadside in the path of a hurricane without food or water makes a hell of a lot more sense than being fed and sheltered in the Superdome for a couple days.

/nod

Edited, Thu Sep 1 13:37:18 2005 by Jophiel
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#31 Sep 01 2005 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I fail to believe your statment is true.


And I fail to believe yours so I guess we can just agree to disagree. Having troops overseas and having resources spread out so much makes this very difficult.

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Because sitting on the roadside in the path of a hurricane without food or water makes a hell of a lot more sense than being fed and sheltered in the Superdome for a couple days.


LOL! Rate up.

Edited, Thu Sep 1 13:40:11 2005 by snieh
#32 Sep 01 2005 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
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Many of those who stayed did so because they lacked the ways and means to leave town.

When did they announce all of those people had broken legs? I missed it. I could totally understand if they were indeed unable to strap on a backpack and hike north.


What about the elderly? What about the people that have no place to go? I mean literally no place at all. New Orleans was their home and all they knew. How about the people that thought they could ride it out. You’re not likely to leave all your personal belongings, and a back pack isn’t going to carry much. Who wants to be stranded anyways? Your compassion is astounding.

Edited, Thu Sep 1 13:40:07 2005 by fenderputy
#33 Sep 01 2005 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
I know I could walk a pretty good way in 2 days. 40 miles the right direction and you're in a thunderstorm. Or in a shelter above sea level.

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#34 Sep 01 2005 at 12:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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'Tis a pity not everyone in New Orleans was you then. Smiley: laugh
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#35 Sep 01 2005 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
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What about the elderly?

Helps the social security crunch if the cack.
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What about the people that have no place to go? I mean literally no place at all. New Orleans was their home and all they knew.

Boo-f'ucking-hoo.
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How about the people that thought they could ride it out. You’re not likely to leave all your personal belongings, and a back pack isn’t going to carry much.

Dumb-asses. And I have left all my belongings before. Starting over from scratch is refreshing.
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Who wants to be stranded anyways?

How would you describe them now?
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Your compassion is astounding.

OMGWTFBBQ!!!111!eleven Moe is not compassionate! Holy crap! Jesus-jumped-up-christ-on-$10-*****! Someone please alert the rest of the posters to that astounding little tid bit!

Moron.


EDIT: No sh;t, Jo! Smiley: waycool

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#36 Sep 01 2005 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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'Tis a pity not everyone in New Orleans was you then.


I think it's just a pity that he wasn't there to lead the hungry, tired masses to freedom with his backpack!!!
#37 Sep 01 2005 at 12:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think it's just a pity that he wasn't there to lead the hungry, tired masses to freedom with his backpack!!!
His Excellency MosesLord! He could have lifted his staff and parted Katrina so his people could pass safely!
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#38 Sep 01 2005 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
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well, from waht I gather without reading that article, is that any federal money that was going to go toward securing thier levies and other such preventative measures we diverted to the Iraq War and Homeland Security..

even though it as argued that our Gulf Coast's integrity Was a matter of national security... espeacially being that ALOT of our oil comes from there.

and now waht do we have? Fuel crisis...

and you Brits may say that your gas has been more expensive for years.. but you guys probably make more money to make up for that cost of living.
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#40 Sep 01 2005 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency MosesLord! He could have lifted his staff and parted Katrina so his people could pass safely!


Followed by many years wandering in the desert...or in this case by the side of the road?
#41 Sep 01 2005 at 12:48 PM Rating: Good
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nd I fail to believe yours so I guess we can just agree to disagree. Having troops overseas and having resources spread out so much makes this very difficult.


So you're telling me that because we have troops overseas, the best option we could come up with in 3 days is "well, we could just shove everyone in the Superdome." Doesn't it seem like we almost weren't trying.

Shame on the folks who stayed behind. Maybe next time they get an evacuation order, they'll take it a little more seriously.
#42 Sep 01 2005 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
OMGWTFBBQ!!!111!eleven Moe is not compassionate! Holy crap! Jesus-jumped-up-christ-on-$10-*****! Someone please alert the rest of the posters to that astounding little tid bit!

Moron.



/bends Moe's unaffectionate *** over to remove what seems to be a humongous chunk of glass from his ****.

Feel better?
#43 Sep 01 2005 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Shame on the folks who stayed behind. Maybe next time they get an evacuation order, they'll take it a little more seriously.


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Many of those who stayed did so because they lacked the ways and means to leave town. It's not as if the people telling them to evacuate were offering free rides and lodging or there's an open hotel available anywhere in the state. Folks thought they could hunker down at the Superdome and be fine in a few days. Heck, had the levees not broken, those people would probably be sitting in their living rooms by now -- everyone thought the city had dodged a bullet until the levee broke.



#44 Sep 01 2005 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
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On the bright side, there are people willing to drop it all and help. Like the kid who stole a bus, picked up refugees along the road, then was barred from dropping them off at the Astrodome.
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#45 Sep 01 2005 at 12:52 PM Rating: Good
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/bends Moe's unaffectionate *** over to remove what seems to be a humongous chunk of glass from his ****.

Feel better?

a) I am very affectionate. Come over here a second and see for yourself.

b) I am this way naturally. No irritant needed.
#46 Sep 01 2005 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Just another reason to not be poor and live IN A TOWN BELOW SEA LEVEL AND STICK AROUND DURING HURRICANE SEASON.
#47 Sep 01 2005 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
Going to the Superdome was a viable option, and one a lot of people took advantage of. It still doesn't explain the people who refused (not were unable to) leave their house. They had the order and failed to follow it. Those are the people who I am shaming.
#48 Sep 01 2005 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
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you give people too much credit.

I'd wager that most of the people there; didn't and still don't have a full understanding of waht is even going on there.
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#49 Sep 01 2005 at 1:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I don't have much defense for those who thought they were better off in their homes. I just feel that people who think the city should have been fully evacuated of people are being unrealistic.
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#50 Sep 01 2005 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
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FOR THE STOCK:
8 trillion quarts 90-degree gulf water
One Cat 5 Hurricane
One part continuously drunk, high-crime, murder capital of the world.
One part indiginant, shut-in, diabetic and morbidly obese.
A tablespoon of incompetent Mayor.
2 levees near large bodies of water that are joked about being inefficient, cut in half horizontally, with Hurricane.
Sachet d'épices: In a small area shapped like a salad ball below sea level, place:
1 teaspoon or so of black folks who are really angry, thirsty, hungry, and about to self fullfill every negative stereo-type there ever was about them cracked open
1 bayleaf
1/2 teaspoon Walgreens Pharmacy
1/2 teaspoon Foot-Locker
1/2 teaspoon "Bayou-Bobs" Gun shop(can be substituted with Walmart's Sportsmans section)
1/2 teaspoon Many,many "Licka-Stows"
FOR THE ROUX:
1-1/4 cups diesel fuel,
1 cup motor oil
1 cup raw sewage
1 a couple thousand dead bodies
4 pinches of cholera outbreak
6 or so government agencies too fu[/u]cking confuse the shi[/i]t out of every one as to who is in charge and what to do.
3 pounds okra, sliced into Asshats firing guns at those trying to help them
several news media outlets to record the mayehm ensuing
Creole seasoning to taste, OR otherwise known as
Steaming Hot Louisiana Weather.






Edited, Thu Sep 1 14:32:58 2005 by RedjedBlue
#51 Sep 01 2005 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Shame on the folks who stayed behind. Maybe next time they get an evacuation order, they'll take it a little more seriously.


If there's anyone left alive after all of this-

They have no potable water, or if any very little.

How long can the human body survive w/o water? 3-4 days. Period. No matter body weight or size, if you don't have drinkable water for that long you're toast. Sure, they can get hungry and a bit malnourished from lack of food for a while, but w/o water a lot of people are going die a slow painful death from dehydration in the next couple of days, if organized relief doesn't get there NOW. Like, trucks full of water with heavily armed National Guard need to drive up and start giving people rations of water, with more trucks coming in. I wouldn't be surprised if the death toll gets close to 10,000 if they wait much longer.

However, I agree that 3-days are more than enough time to get what you can carry and get out of town. Hell, they could have made multiple trips if they were just 30-40 mins away from NO before the hurricane hit.

That's directed at the people who could have left but stayed. The wheelchair bound etc have an excuse, and that should have been taken care of by the authorities.
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