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#52 Aug 31 2005 at 11:21 AM Rating: Decent
The One and Only Frakkor wrote:
Just got word (from a good source) to expect to see prices in West Michigan up to $3.54 by this afternoon.

Get it now if you can!


Damn it! West Michigan is exactly where I am going.

Now to figure out how to fit a 20 Gallon Gas barrel in the trunk of my Grand Am.
#53 Aug 31 2005 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
When you figure it out, let me know :)

I'm still trying to work out how to run my car on dog sh[b][/b]it, becuase lord knows I've got a ton of that!
#54 Aug 31 2005 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
The One and Only Frakkor wrote:
When you figure it out, let me know :)

I'm still trying to work out how to run my car on dog sh[b][/b]it, becuase lord knows I've got a ton of that!


Smiley: lol
#55 Aug 31 2005 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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The impact is more psychological than anything. Gas was what $1 nine years ago? Let's say it goes up to $4 by the end of the year. Let's say you drive appx 65 miles a day. Which is ~24,000 miles a year. Now lets say you drive a midsized SUV which gets 20 miles to the gallon.

In 1996 it would have cost you ~$1,200 a year for gas
Next year it may cost you ~$4,800

Arn't most people financially more than $3,600 a year better off than a decade ago?
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#56 Aug 31 2005 at 11:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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My own quickie calculations have me paying ~$1,000 more this year in gas than I did last year*. That's not counting the increased cost of heat this winter.

An extra $1,000 is about a mortgage payment. I can soak it and I don't see a real "fix" for it, but it's not an insignificant amount of money.

*Averaging $1.60/gal last year and $3.00/gal this year assuming prices rise to $4.00/gal as predicted

Edited, Wed Aug 31 12:45:24 2005 by Jophiel
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#57 Aug 31 2005 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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Arn't most people financially more than $3,600 a year better off than a decade ago?


I'd say it depends on age and profession. You and I, yes of course we are.

My stepdad who has worked in a factory for the last 15 years..no he doesn't make 4 grand more (considering inflation) then he did a few years ago.
#58 Aug 31 2005 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyone read about Hubbard's Peak? I read a really good recap of it through Fark last year but can't seem to find it. I read it a long time ago but it was basically about the end of civilization and our way of life due to our dependence on oil. There's a book out and since I'm late for work, that's the only link I can scrounge up at the moment.

I'm with you on that one. I ended up reading a whole lot on "Peak Oil" last year too.
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#59 Aug 31 2005 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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Hmmm...a decade ago I made $11 a week, and that's only if I mowed the lawn.


#60 Aug 31 2005 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
Lord xythex wrote:
The impact is more psychological than anything. Gas was what $1 nine years ago? Let's say it goes up to $4 by the end of the year. Let's say you drive appx 65 miles a day. Which is ~24,000 miles a year. Now lets say you drive a midsized SUV which gets 20 miles to the gallon.

In 1996 it would have cost you ~$1,200 a year for gas
Next year it may cost you ~$4,800

Arn't most people financially more than $3,600 a year better off than a decade ago?


I do not get the point of that. We are just talking Gas prices here. Lets say Food goes up about $10,000 from last decade. Your Automobile about $12,000, clothing $6,000, taxes $8,000, Rent/House Payment $14,000. So with gas going up the way it has plus all these other things you are looking at a $53,600 increase over last decade.

I know those prices are proably off, but you get my point. We are just talking about the Gas you put in your car, not the vechile itself or even the insurance and taxes on it. Also Gas increase causes EVERYTHING else to increase because all companies transport thier products.
#61 Aug 31 2005 at 11:54 AM Rating: Good
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Way to go with the irrelevant statment...

The statement was only irrelevant if you didn't get it. Oh yeah...
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I read your whole post in the context it was written. It's not my fault that what you said made no sense whatsoever.

Umm, actually it kinda is. If you knew f'uck all about trucks you would have inferred, like I did, that he was distinguishing between HD trucks that run gas instead of diesel. That you don't know f'uck all about trucks and chose to respond anyway, well, that just makes you special.

Granted, he's the ****** who phrased it incorrectly, but you're the ****** who is quibling over semantics with him.

Gratz on that whole special olympics thing.
#62 Aug 31 2005 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
Maybe living on campus this year would be a better idea than driving over 125 kms a day...
#63 Aug 31 2005 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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My stepdad who has worked in a factory for the last 15 years..no he doesn't make 4 grand more (considering inflation) then he did a few years ago.

The whole "considering inflation" part is where you lose though. Gas didn't rise at the rate of inflation. Nor did oil. Granted, what we are seeing is a drastic over correction, but we are now more closely paying for gas we use than we were before the spike.

So, If he does make 4 grand more, not adjusting for inflation, he isn't losing ground, he's just not making any up.
#64 Aug 31 2005 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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My point being that instead of rising in a smooth curve like everything else Gas just spiked at the end. It's the same change we should have seen over the past few decades only it happened all at once. Gas has not been keeping with the rate of inflation and all of a sudden in the last year or so it caught up.

This isn't an unwarrented spike its just late.
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#65 Aug 31 2005 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
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#66 Aug 31 2005 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
I see your point, however, everything else he buys IS more expensive than 10 years ago, including gas. I'm just saying that I don't think it's safe to assume that MOST people are make $4,000 more, including the rising cost of standard of living, adding kids, etc..., than they did 9 years ago.

Some of us, definatley...most, I don't think we've got enough info to say that MOST people are that much better off.

#67 Aug 31 2005 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
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My point being that instead of rising in a smooth curve like everything else Gas just spiked at the end. It's the same change we should have seen over the past few decades only it happened all at once. Gas has not been keeping with the rate of inflation and all of a sudden in the last year or so it caught up.

This isn't an unwarrented spike its just late.


Did the average blue collar worker, with a growing family, plan over the last nine years for this spike? I doubt it. I think a lot of people are going to be harder hit with this than you think.

Edited, Wed Aug 31 13:15:47 2005 by Frakkor
#68 Aug 31 2005 at 12:26 PM Rating: Default
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Yeah and all the truck drivers that pay for gas out of pocket...That's gotta suck a 12% increase JESUS



No not really we just slam you with a 25% increase, you know it rolls down hill :)
#69 Aug 31 2005 at 12:38 PM Rating: Default
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That about sums it up.



How?


We did it not mother nature. We could and should have droped our use of oil in the 70's. Gas/elec cars have been around for 20 years. All for the greed of money thats why we are here at this point in time.
#71 Aug 31 2005 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
Lord xythex wrote:
My point being that instead of rising in a smooth curve like everything else Gas just spiked at the end. It's the same change we should have seen over the past few decades only it happened all at once. Gas has not been keeping with the rate of inflation and all of a sudden in the last year or so it caught up.

This isn't an unwarrented spike its just late.


Well time to sit back and watch because a gas spike will spike everything else we buy. Plan on anything you want or desire to get it now because everything is going to spike.

Companies don't lose money by paying more for gas. They cut employees and jack up the prices of thier products. Us as the citizens are the ones who lose.

As if our economy was not bad enough as it is already, now it is going to get worse...
#72 Aug 31 2005 at 1:56 PM Rating: Default
Gas prices rose 35 cents today, to $3.09 in some gas stations in Oakland NJ. The others will be following suit soon I'm sure. My guess is four a gallon in two weeks :p
#73 Aug 31 2005 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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As if our economy was not bad enough as it is already, now it is going to get worse...

Gas & oil prices I understand, because I am a relatively inelligent individual.

What really boggles my mind is how retards like you can sit back and call an economy that continues to add jobs and outpace inflation (which is minimal at worst) "bad enough already". The 90's were an abaration, get over it. We have a strong economy that moves forward dispite, not because of, all of you f'ucking morons who wouldn't know which end of economic theory was up if the *** end was planted on your nose.
#74 Aug 31 2005 at 2:04 PM Rating: Good
I'm with Moe on this one. I find it hard to believe that we have a "bad economy" when I can't find a seat at any decent restaraunt of Friday night and the movie theater is packed as well.

Doesn't seem like the makings of the downfall of the American civilization to me.



Edited, Wed Aug 31 15:08:44 2005 by Frakkor
#75 Aug 31 2005 at 2:09 PM Rating: Good
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I would like to think that I am not as much agreeing with Moe but more disagreeing with Proroc.

But yeah Moe's right.

(aww snap I agreed with him)
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#76 Aug 31 2005 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
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What really boggles my mind is how retards like you can sit back and call an economy that continues to add jobs and outpace inflation (which is minimal at worst) "bad enough already". The 90's were an abaration, get over it. We have a strong economy that moves forward dispite, not because of, all of you f'ucking morons who wouldn't know which end of economic theory was up if the *** end was planted on your nose.


Well the overall economy for the US might be up, and it is also doing very well where I live now, but back where my friends and family live in West Michigan it is horrible. I guess I just look at the economy there and how good it was a few years back compared to what it is like now.
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