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#27 Nov 07 2005 at 1:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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I gotta get used to the new strategery first

plus, my playtime is sorta f'ed up with 2 jobs
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#28 Nov 07 2005 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
yeah, i can't wait for this. i hope i can save enough money to get it by the time ; ;

and AoE III would be sweet too. i had to re-order the conquerors expansion cause i lost my first one... funny thing is is that the only reason i re-bought the expansion is because i hate not being able to queue new farms >.<
#29 Nov 07 2005 at 3:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Civ 4 is very, very, very cool, and does hearken back to Civ 2 much more than Civ III in many ways.
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#30 Nov 07 2005 at 3:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Does it? I played III and never got into it. Civ2 remained my favorite.
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#31 Nov 07 2005 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Is this a Real-Time Strategy game or is it Turn Based like the previous versions?
#32 Nov 07 2005 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Mearyk wrote:
Is this a Real-Time Strategy game or is it Turn Based like the previous versions?


Either-Or


You can also join games taking over for the AI, and Vice Versa...



And Jophiel,

If Civ3 was SuperMarioBros 2, then Civ4 is definalty SuperMarioBros 3.

Edited, Mon Nov 7 15:48:03 2005 by Kelvyquayo
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#33 Nov 07 2005 at 3:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kelvyquayo, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
If Civ3 was SuperMarioBros 2, then Civ4 is definalty SuperMarioBros 3.


Good analogy
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#34 Nov 07 2005 at 3:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah. Sid Meier had no input on 3, he had full control on 4. Some of the things in 3 did make it in, but overall it feels very much like an upgraded civ iI to me.
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#35 Nov 07 2005 at 4:13 PM Rating: Good
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I loved Civ 2 and got Civ 3 for Christmas the year it came out. I never got around to playing it though. It was one of the dozen or so games that fell by the wayside while playing my mmorpgs.

During my current gaming burnout, I've been catching up on my DVD rentals of epic movies like Troy, Alexander the Great, and Kingdom of Heaven. I liked Troy and Kingdom of Heaven, not so much for Alexander. Anyhoo, they've got me jonesing for some epic historical battle gameplay.

Player reviews of the game from the EB website complain of bugginess - is this a big problem? I also read the positive review from Gamespot.

I'm gonna see if Civ 4 and AoE III is in my local EB and spend some of my birthday money.

Yesssss.....my gaming burnout is starting to fade a bit. The fever returns....

Edited, Mon Nov 7 22:53:01 2005 by Smoggy
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#36 Nov 07 2005 at 9:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I hear AoE III isn't that good.

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#37 Nov 07 2005 at 11:11 PM Rating: Good
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Hmmm... Well the description's were a bit vague, so I'll ask:

Did they change the culture system? And if so, exactly how? My biggest beef with Civ3 was the way they managed the culture measurements and its effect on happiness, unhappiness, and my ultimate most hated thing: culture flips. I know they wanted to add in a sociological aspect to the game, but that system sucked really really bad. And made worse by how they integrated that into the whole war weariness/happiness thing. It made it so that you had to play "stupid war tricks" in order to actually attack someone and hold ground, even if you didn't start the darn war.

I should really not have to hang back and bombard a city down to a 1 population, capture it, and then send a horde of workers and settlers in to build it up to a high pop with my citizens in order to avoid the city arbitrarily deciding to change sides back to the native populations civilization (taking all units inside with them to boot!). Pure silliness...
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#38 Nov 08 2005 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
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I just picked up Civ 4 over lunch. Also picked up Dungeon Siege 2, Medieval: Total War Viking Invasion expansion pack in the used bin for $10, and the Age of Mythology Gold Edition, which has the Titans expansion, for $30.

Geeky good times...

Edited, Tue Nov 8 12:48:12 2005 by Smoggy
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#39 Nov 08 2005 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Culture seems a lot more stable now. Whenever a city has flipped to me so far in a civ 4 game, I've never lost it again. I think they made it harder to culture swap cities. Racial identity also has a lot to do with it, I've noticed that in cities I've gotten in a culture flip, they tend to have mostly my race of people anyway.

I don't know the mechanics behind it, but it does seem a lot less arbitrary.

Also, I haven't had war weariness incapacitate me at all so far. But I've only played on the easier modes to get used to the strategy changes.
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#40 Nov 09 2005 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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So after installing the game last night, it behooved me to run the tutorial since I haven't played Civ since Civ II. Sid Meier, game design legend, was my tutorial guide.

Although a brilliant game designer, he's not the most exciting tutorial host. The tutorial is competent, but man, Sid's droning, monotone voice was putting me to sleep. I shut the game down for the night and went to bed soon after. I think it was like 9:00pm.

I'm just going to dive into a campaign tonight. So the reign of the Mighty Smoggy begins!

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#41 Nov 09 2005 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I suggest playing on Noble, on the Terra map. Terra map makes an untouched "new world" continent not accessable by anyone until the invention of Astronomy.
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#42 Nov 09 2005 at 7:05 PM Rating: Good
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Cool, thanks for the tip, Kelv! I stopped back at EB today at lunch and traded in a bunch of old X-Box games. I picked up Sid's Pirates! for the trade-in. Gonna check it out a little before diving back into Civ 4.

Yarr!
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#43 Nov 09 2005 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
I like Colonization more than the first Civilization...
#44 Nov 10 2005 at 1:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, sounds good. I really loved Civ 2, and didn't bother to play Civ3 much. I may have to get this soon!
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#45 Nov 10 2005 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I swear on everything holy, that if my panzer unit dies from spearmen attack in this, I will personally hunt down Sid and rip out his spleen with a spoon.

That or be pissed.


LOL! This always boggled my mind too.
#46 Nov 10 2005 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I like Colonization more than the first Civilization...


Colonization was great. I still have it somewhere.
#47 Nov 10 2005 at 11:01 AM Rating: Good
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I liked Europa Universalis even better than the Civ series, Colonization or AoE series, and I still play EU 2 now and again.

Edited, Thu Nov 10 11:11:00 2005 by fhrugby
#48 Nov 10 2005 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
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I haven't picked this up yet because I have read and heard from a lot of people that there is a memory leak issue that hasn't been resolved yet. Basically the more turns you take, the slower your game will run. I checked out civ fanantics and they haven't released a patch for it yet. Have any of you encountered this problem? I will eventually get it, but I would rather wait until they fix this if it is as bad as I have read.
#49 Nov 10 2005 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I haven't picked this up yet because I have read and heard from a lot of people that there is a memory leak issue that hasn't been resolved yet. Basically the more turns you take, the slower your game will run. I checked out civ fanantics and they haven't released a patch for it yet. Have any of you encountered this problem? I will eventually get it, but I would rather wait until they fix this if it is as bad as I have read.


Yeah, I figured I needed a system upgrade.... new vid card, more RAM...


It's fine at first. It's fairly smooth.
until you have a Full Map of the world and many Civs with alot of cities taking their turns and all of the Processes involved with that...

I think I'm gonna stop playing it until I upgrade my system... eventually it get's to the point of like 10-20 minutes between turns..... That's wehn i get around the 18-1900s....


Other than that I'm loving it.
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#50 Nov 10 2005 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
I looked, I saw, I left. Much like WoW. They gave me a solid 'meh' impression.
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