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#1 Aug 18 2005 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, i read through the entire thread below about the "Girl falsely accused my son of rape." Had a few thoughts, but that thread was hopelessly lost in flaming. Disculpa me, por favor, for starting a new thread.


1. Women have "unfair" legal power over men in today's (western? US?) society.

I spent 8 years in the army, the last four as a commissioned officer in Intelligence (insert joke here). I witnessed countless flogging some guy out of fear that there might have been inappropriatness, even though devoid of any "proof". All it takes is an accusation, and a girl can have a guy arrested for just about anything (assault, sexual assault, rape, etc.). Very serious charges, with lasting impact, regardless of the outcome. Case in point, my sister-in-law was (is?) a hyper-dramatic liar, whose life just isn't interesting enough so she makes stuff up. When she and my brother were newly-married, I let them share an apartment with me (split the rent 50-50 to save them money, and I made a point to rarely be around). She regularly threw temper-tantrums and trashed the place. I deployed, and when I returned, got my own place (as per the original agreement I had with my bro). Three days went by, I'd been trying to call my brother, but never could. So, one day I went over to his place to check up on him. His wife had been calling some of her ex-lovers and chatting 'em up, they had an argument, he told her to call up (the last one) and tell him it was over, she went through the house throwing the phones against the opposite walls (completely ripping out the sockets, so you can't just plug it back in, and smashing holes in the walls with the phone). Twice, in my presence, she would go off on him, kicking him, slapping him. He shut a bedroom door to keep her out because she was being excessively violent, and she punched a hole in the door. Then she figures it out. Anytime they have an argument she doesn't like, she calls the cops and says he's beating her. No questions asked, they come and arrest him. Three times (once on-post, two off). My brother can be an *** at times, but he didn't beat his wife. She regularly abused him. But... the way the law reads (in WA), even if he called the cops b/c she was beating him, he'd get arrested. Dumb ****.

And any accusation of sexual assualt can ruin a guy's career. Even if the "charges are dropped", rumors and stigmas are attached. How hyper-sensative corporations are now, fear of lawsuits, all it takes is a whiff, and the guy is toast. ********* but it happens.




2. Women weren't always treated "fairly" under the law.

For the majority of the US country's history, women have be legally inferior. Rights to vote, rights of ownership, working rights (women still get paid less /hr for the same job as a man, statistically). Some would say that the current legal inequity favoring women is compensation for the past. But, again, this is ********* The trail of tears gives no native american the right to slaughter countless modern citizens. No black has a "right" to oppress whites, force them to pick cotton for no wage, whip them, etc.

Typically, women are less physically capable for hand-to-hand confrontation (not saying women aren't equal as "citizens" or their abilities to perform various tasks, just saying there is a physiological difference between the sexes. If you disagree, look between your legs, and that of the opposite sex, and then slap yourself.). It is perhaps because of this disparity that the law has "looser" requirements for crimes commited against women. It doesn't make it any more "right", but might make it slightly understandable.



What irritates me is the idea of "date rape". To me, it's very simple. Rape is rape. Non-consented sex (**** / vaginal penetration with a *****). The idea of a girl being drunk and "didn't say stop" doesn't equal rape. The only consideration would be if the "victim" were drugged, or somehow forced to do something against their will. If you get drunk and hit someone with your car, you can't say "Date Homicide" and blame the booze. Well, lots of people do, but it's **** in my opinion. Unless there is non-sonsensual violence, or threat of violence, or lack of consent resulting from non-consensual actions (ie. drugging), it's not "rape".

Rape is a horrible thing, and rapists should be chemically / surgically neutered (in my opinion). Along with a life time in prison (or death).

False accusations of rape are equally horrible. A complete "invasion", loss of self, loss of any "power", at least equal to actual rape, and perhaps worse because it's seemingly endorsed by the society. Thus, false accusations deserve equally detrimental response.



But, instead, they tell the victim that there's nothing they can do, and he should just be glad he didn't get convicted. Like him not getting convicted is the "justice" in someone making false accusations. Complete utter crapaga.

-spanky

Edited, Thu Aug 18 18:31:34 2005 by spankilicious
#2 Aug 18 2005 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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#3 Aug 18 2005 at 5:13 PM Rating: Good
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#4 Aug 18 2005 at 5:15 PM Rating: Good
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new non-flame topic ref. fake-rape


A non-flame topic? I'm not sure I understand the concept.
#5 Aug 18 2005 at 5:18 PM Rating: Good
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#6 Aug 18 2005 at 5:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Pubes K. Wellenmeyer!

Thanks Tricky...I'm still laughing....
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#7 Aug 18 2005 at 5:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Here is a tip on how not to suck.



































Don't hit the "Post Message" button ever again


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#8 Aug 18 2005 at 5:25 PM Rating: Good
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Pubes K. Wellenmeyer!

Thanks Tricky...I'm still laughing....

Smiley: wink2

Far superior to Mia.

C'mon, she's still young enough you can make the change seamlessly.


#9 Aug 18 2005 at 5:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Pubes K. Miaweiner.

Hooray!

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#11 Aug 18 2005 at 5:32 PM Rating: Good
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Testing

Edited, Thu Aug 18 18:07:55 2005 by spankilicious


indeed, /nod

Edited, Thu Aug 18 18:32:07 2005 by bhodisattva
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#12 Aug 18 2005 at 5:37 PM Rating: Decent
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hahahaha. Ya'lls are ******

Just I accidentally hit [TAB] and [enter]... I immediately edited (to prevent the "You n00b! You didn't type anything, dumbass!" responses), and instead I get a plethora of ("Dumbass, don't type ever again, noob" responses).

You make me smile.

:0)


"Dumbass" wrote:
No one here really gives a **** if you become sad every time someone says someone else is an idiot and decide the flames are too harsh for you.


Has nothing to do with a flame war instigated by dumbasses being to "harsh" for me. Sometimes people prefer to have an (wait for it... wait for it...) intelligent discussion about specific events, and repeatedly telling each other how many balls they suck or how much *** they gargle distracts from such conversations.

{Take care}

-spanky

Edited, Thu Aug 18 18:54:10 2005 by spankilicious
#13 Aug 18 2005 at 5:41 PM Rating: Good
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spankilicious wrote:


You make me smile.

:0)



Is your nose really that big? Are your eyes really that beady?

Must suck to be you… Smiley: glasses
#14 Aug 18 2005 at 5:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think you are familiar with the concept of "threads" and "replies."

You see, a thread is named such because it contains a number of posts on the same topic. If you want to contribute to the discussion, you click "Reply to Thread."

If you have a different subject to discuss, you click the "New Topic" button.

Actually, scratch that. YOU don't click the "New Topic" button at all. Just log out and work on the daily Jumble.


#15 Aug 18 2005 at 5:45 PM Rating: Good
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Really your post was more interesting before you had to ruin by editing in that waste of text you call a post.
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#16 Aug 18 2005 at 5:47 PM Rating: Good
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I was enjoying the Pubes Weinermeyer III conversation personally.
#17 Aug 18 2005 at 7:53 PM Rating: Good
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Who are you quoting here?
Spanki wrote:
1. Women have "unfair" legal power over men in today's (western? US?) society.
Or here?
Spanki wrote:
there might have been inappropriatness, even though devoid of any "proof"
Or here?
Spanki wrote:
Even if the "charges are dropped", rumors and stigmas are attached.
Just so you look more like a smarty pants in the future I'd like to remind you that quotation marks are used to indicate a (wait for it) quote!

I think what you're looking for is a way to emphasize key words or phrases. Perhaps there are better mark up options you can choose in the future.

Sorry, it's a pet peeve that the U.S. appears to have forgotten what a quotation mark is. Smiley: banghead
#18 Aug 18 2005 at 7:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Please don't spank me Yanyan.


Edit: heh didn't realize that guy's name was Spanki. No pun intended.



Edited, Thu Aug 18 21:02:40 2005 by trickybeck
#19 Aug 18 2005 at 7:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yanari the Puissant wrote:

I think what you're looking for is a way to emphasize key words or phrases.


Bam!

or Lolbifrons!

Whichever we're using right now.

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#21 Aug 18 2005 at 8:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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We are most definately not using lolbifrons these days if I have anything to say about it.

Harrumph! Smiley: bah

And you can quote me on that!
#22 Aug 18 2005 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Whatever happened to rack?


Nobby racked katie
#23 Aug 18 2005 at 8:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not that I care about such things, but everyone in this thread was rated down except for the OP, who was rated up in both posts.


#26 Aug 18 2005 at 8:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, they're no better than they should be.
Being smack dab in the middle of the midwest, I know this phrase can never become part of my vernacular. Smiley: cry
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