Its beginning to become clear to me, that the purpose of most people's lives is to simply survive until they have reached some key milestones.
1. Marriage
2. Birth of Children
3. Retirement
The rest of their lives seems to be spent in this vicious circle. I spend time working to be able to buy things that help me speed up life so that I have more time to kill until the next set of mandatory "chores"
The majority of our lives seem to be spent hurrying up life so that we can have more time to kill by doing nothing.
How is the infinite loop broken? What can be injected into the cycle that provides a catalyst for change?
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Booze. Fixes everything.
Mandatory career change.
I want to be a dance instructor, like Patrick Swayze.
I want to be a dance instructor, like Patrick Swayze.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
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Mandatory career change.
I want to be a dance instructor, like Patrick Swayze.
I want to be a dance instructor, like Patrick Swayze.
That's a pretty lofty expectation. I'm afraid you will be setting yourself up for some major failure.
No one fills out black tights like Patrick Swayze. No one.
Don't have kids. Break the vicious cycle of overpopulation. Think of everything else you could do without having to worry about a few brats.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
NephthysWanderer the Charming wrote:
No one fills out black tights like Patrick Swayze. No one.
You crushed my dream. Just like that. Crushed.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
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The rest of their lives seems to be spent in this vicious circle. I spend time working to be able to buy things that help me speed up life so that I have more time to kill until the next set of mandatory "chores"
The majority of our lives seem to be spent hurrying up life so that we can have more time to kill by doing nothing.
The majority of our lives seem to be spent hurrying up life so that we can have more time to kill by doing nothing.
This is why MMOGs are so compelling. They mirror life, without the actual emotional investment.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Tare the Picky wrote:
Mandatory career change.
I want to be a dance instructor, like Patrick Swayze.
I want to be a dance instructor, like Patrick Swayze.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
What a feeeeelin'!
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Well there's always letting cosplay go wrong and telling the cops you have "1000 years of power" with a sword and chain on yourself to break up that vicious cycle.
To answer Neph's question a little more seriously, I guess it boils down to the age-old query of what gives your life purpose. I guess it's finding something to fill that "downtime" that's a little more fulfilling than "doing nothing".
I guess for parents and the like the simple answer is children (which, incidentally, don't leave a ton of downtime) and the time you spend turning them in hopefully decent members of society. Or whatever it is you hold a passion for: art, religion, sports, having the world's largest collection of Pokémon cards, etc. Hell, having your grandchildren say "Grandpa Neph spent his whole life loving these cards" is better than "Grandpa Neph never got off the damn couch and did anything."
I guess for parents and the like the simple answer is children (which, incidentally, don't leave a ton of downtime) and the time you spend turning them in hopefully decent members of society. Or whatever it is you hold a passion for: art, religion, sports, having the world's largest collection of Pokémon cards, etc. Hell, having your grandchildren say "Grandpa Neph spent his whole life loving these cards" is better than "Grandpa Neph never got off the damn couch and did anything."
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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How is the infinite loop broken? What can be injected into the cycle that provides a catalyst for change?
Your not getting cold feet about the wedding are you?
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Aude Sapere
Oh hell camp me all you want f**kers. I own this site and thus I own you. - Allakhazam
I agree Joph. That's the question I've been working on for awhile now.
Sam is right though, and that's the danger of MMO's. The escape of anything fulfilling, the entrance into a world where substance, accomplishment, and comradery can be bought for $13 a month.
Sam is right though, and that's the danger of MMO's. The escape of anything fulfilling, the entrance into a world where substance, accomplishment, and comradery can be bought for $13 a month.
Without getting too philosophical (cause it always sounds pretentious), I think the same thing you do Neph, and I think about it a lot.
It's kinda that "why are we here?" question, y'know. We grow up, we learn in schools so that one day we can make enough money to support a family, and for what? Our kids to do the EXACT same thing. It's not like our accomplishments mean very much in the long run. We're born and we die 100 years later, and in the meantime, what are we doing? We're just living.
Sure, we can make the world a better place for future generations, but what's the point? EVERYONE grows old and dies. We have 1 life (if you don't believe in reincarnation, which I don't) and then we're done on this planet. I don't see the benefit of doing anything spectacular unless it makes my short time here enjoyable.
Would it matter AT ALL if the entire human race was suddenly wiped out? Not really. Even if the Earth was blown up, it wouldn't matter. The galaxy and most definately the universe would keep on going. If you really think about it, the Earth itself is just one insignificant bug on the windshield, so why do we do it? Why do we live?
I'll tell you why. I like sex, I like hockey, I like love, and I'm going to enjoy seeing the happiness on my kids' faces when they finally learn how to ride a bike, or score a goal in soccer. In the end, no matter what anyone says otherwise, most of us just live to live.
/philosophical ********
It's kinda that "why are we here?" question, y'know. We grow up, we learn in schools so that one day we can make enough money to support a family, and for what? Our kids to do the EXACT same thing. It's not like our accomplishments mean very much in the long run. We're born and we die 100 years later, and in the meantime, what are we doing? We're just living.
Sure, we can make the world a better place for future generations, but what's the point? EVERYONE grows old and dies. We have 1 life (if you don't believe in reincarnation, which I don't) and then we're done on this planet. I don't see the benefit of doing anything spectacular unless it makes my short time here enjoyable.
Would it matter AT ALL if the entire human race was suddenly wiped out? Not really. Even if the Earth was blown up, it wouldn't matter. The galaxy and most definately the universe would keep on going. If you really think about it, the Earth itself is just one insignificant bug on the windshield, so why do we do it? Why do we live?
I'll tell you why. I like sex, I like hockey, I like love, and I'm going to enjoy seeing the happiness on my kids' faces when they finally learn how to ride a bike, or score a goal in soccer. In the end, no matter what anyone says otherwise, most of us just live to live.
/philosophical ********
Harry Chapin wrote:
All my life's a circle;
Sunrise and sundown;
Moon rolls thru the nighttime;
Till the daybreak comes around.
All my life's a circle;
But I can't tell you why;
Season's spinning round again;
The years keep rollin' by.
It seems like I've been here before;
I can't remember when;
But I have this funny feeling;
That we'll all be together again.
No straight lines make up my life;
And all my roads have bends;
There's no clear-cut beginnings;
And so far no dead-ends.
Chorus:
I found you a thousand times;
I guess you done the same;
But then we lose each other;
It's like a children's game;
As I find you here again;
A thought runs through my mind;
Our love is like a circle;
Let's go 'round one more time.
Chorus
Sunrise and sundown;
Moon rolls thru the nighttime;
Till the daybreak comes around.
All my life's a circle;
But I can't tell you why;
Season's spinning round again;
The years keep rollin' by.
It seems like I've been here before;
I can't remember when;
But I have this funny feeling;
That we'll all be together again.
No straight lines make up my life;
And all my roads have bends;
There's no clear-cut beginnings;
And so far no dead-ends.
Chorus:
I found you a thousand times;
I guess you done the same;
But then we lose each other;
It's like a children's game;
As I find you here again;
A thought runs through my mind;
Our love is like a circle;
Let's go 'round one more time.
Chorus
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Teltorid 52 Druid
Aude Sapere
Oh hell camp me all you want f**kers. I own this site and thus I own you. - Allakhazam
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Aude Sapere
Oh hell camp me all you want f**kers. I own this site and thus I own you. - Allakhazam
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Your not getting cold feet about the wedding are you?
Not at all. I am very happy about the wedding actually.
Trying to maintain an individual purpose as you merge two lives together can be tricky I'm sure.
Oh, well then is this what your talking about?
Because I have an answer to that.
Ecclesiastes 1 wrote:
3 What does man gain by all the toil at which he toils under the sun? 4 A generation goes, and a generation comes, but the earth remains for ever. 5 The sun rises and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises. 6 The wind blows to the south, and goes round to the north; round and round goes the wind, and on its circuits the wind returns. 7 All streams run to the sea, but the sea is not full; to the place where the streams flow, there they flow again. 8 All things are full of weariness; a man cannot utter it; the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing. 9 What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; and there is nothing new under the sun. 10 Is there a thing of which it is said, "See, this is new"? It has been already, in the ages before us. 11 There is no remembrance of former things, nor will there be any remembrance of later things yet to happen among those who come after.
Because I have an answer to that.
Nicroll 65 Assassin
Teltorid 52 Druid
Aude Sapere
Oh hell camp me all you want f**kers. I own this site and thus I own you. - Allakhazam
Teltorid 52 Druid
Aude Sapere
Oh hell camp me all you want f**kers. I own this site and thus I own you. - Allakhazam
NephthysWanderer the Charming wrote:
Trying to maintain an individual purpose as you merge two lives together can be tricky I'm sure.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Just had a mental image of the whole lampreymouth of love and marriage thre for a sec. Thanks Joph, that was funny.
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How is the infinite loop broken? What can be injected into the cycle that provides a catalyst for change?
I think it's a matter of "from where" you're looking at it.
For instance; take a Circle. Call the circle "Time" Say the circle
has marks on it in various places.
Now you are looking at that circle from the outside, so indeed, all
points in the Circle of time are happening at the Same Time. From
your own Universal View which exists Outside of this Time.
Now;
Pretend that you are really small and are standing upon that circle
looking on One direction and traveling on that circle in One
Direction. If you are small enough, than it is going to appear
that you are traveling in a straight line. Each "mark" that you
come upon would represent a moment in time.... and to You, who are
seeing these moments from Inside of the Circle, think that these
points are totally seperate... even though If you could look at it
From the Outside.. you would see taht they are all part of the same
thing...
This example of course is one way to explain somthing that has many
different aspects.... so of course may not apply to more abstract
views...
For instance, I think maybe if our Earthly lifetimes are within this
Cirlce, then where is the point of change? If the Cycle continues
for Growth, then how does the Circle change itself?
I've thought of it perhaps as a spiral... that is; if you look at a
spiral from above, it may appear as many circles.... Yet if you
look at it from the side, it would appear as one big spiral...
abstractly speaking that is..
Eitherway, your "Change" would be the next 'level' or 'ring' in the Spiral.
Edited, Wed Aug 10 11:47:18 2005 by Kelvyquayo
You get all that, Neph?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Did anybody else just skip over Kelvy's post and assume that it was full of metaphysical nonsense?
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
Banal fu[b][/b]cktards.
Continue along in your little petty superficial lives and viewpoints.. makes no difference to me...
if you continue to see yourself as a biological automaton then I pity your tiny minds. You have no more significance than any other other microbe in the cosmos.
Growth begins with discovery, not ******** about it and shunning waht you don't know/
I think I may just take up a career in full-time trolling here. Much more satisfying.
Continue along in your little petty superficial lives and viewpoints.. makes no difference to me...
if you continue to see yourself as a biological automaton then I pity your tiny minds. You have no more significance than any other other microbe in the cosmos.
Growth begins with discovery, not ******** about it and shunning waht you don't know/
I think I may just take up a career in full-time trolling here. Much more satisfying.
I accidently read all of it 
and now I think I understand why people kill people.
and now I think I understand why people kill people.Quote:
I think I understand why people kill people.
Why's that?
cause you're nothing more than a bunch of self-righteous glorified Primates? wallowing in your own ignorance?
Death would be an improvment for most of you.
Kelvyquayo the Hand wrote:
Banal fu[/b]cktards.
Continue along in your little petty superficial lives and viewpoints.. makes no difference to me...
if you continue to see yourself as a biological automaton then I pity your tiny minds. You have no more significance than any other other microbe in the cosmos.
[b]Growth begins with discovery, not ******** about it and shunning waht you don't know/
Continue along in your little petty superficial lives and viewpoints.. makes no difference to me...
if you continue to see yourself as a biological automaton then I pity your tiny minds. You have no more significance than any other other microbe in the cosmos.
[b]Growth begins with discovery, not ******** about it and shunning waht you don't know/
Wait...aren't you the dipsh[/b]it who attributes anything unknown to The Great Pie In The Sky?
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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