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im pretty sure thats buddhists

Fixed.



You rock the beat, cause I rock the beat...I got somethin' to say ...



You say primate,
I say premate.
You say huh?
And I say wtf?, <repeat: wtf?>



hMMMM, a weird question. {They} being the animals, or {They} being the Godful humans?



1-2-3-4 We don't need your stinking War!..."We'd make great pets..."...1-2-3-4 We don't need your stinking War..."we'd make great pets..."...



<whispers> "ok."

It does not matter how we were created anyways, because every single story that is said about creation, i will not be affected, because i will be what i am.

Yes, I do. Maybe not to the extent that humans do (ie Free Will, Abstract Thought, etc), but I believe most animals are self aware. Why would the tree frogs of the amazon evolve bright colors and poisonous secretions if they weren't aware they were a favorite prey at one point.



Aside from sharing what...98% similar genes? Nothing. I mean, they can learn what we teach them. Perhaps there's great potential in that.



I don't believe in a god, I believe in many gods, and goddesses, too. According to what I hold faith in, we're all just energy that get's returned to the earth and recycled.



If you're speaking from a "Christian" point of view, then (at least according to what I've studied), your view is wrong. God wanted a creature that chose to have faith in Him. That chose to follow His word. Not just another creature created to do His bidding, or only think within certain perameters. Man was created for that purpose. However, Man grew lonley and asked God to create him a companion. So from Man, came Woman, companions meant for each other. However, as we all know, the ***** fell for the first thing that tempted her and di[Beige][/Beige]ckhead was dumb enough to listen to her.

However, regarding your question about if our conciousness is on par with his, that's quite possible. After all, every creature is supposed to carry a spark of the Divine within them. A piece of the Divine carried to them on the Breath of Life. So, it seems logical that if Man is part divine, then his conciousness would "on par" with divinity, too.



Let me tell you now, no one gives a **** what religion you are. We just don't care. The only thing we care about here at (as Joph likes to put it) forum=4 are intelligent posters.


BTW, you're still not cool enough to insult the regs like you're one of us. Ya know, just in case you didn't already get that hint.

Sigh... consciousness is not easily - okay - define it. Define consciousness. O

You must just hit random keys hoping for the best.




You can't "fix" what he said. Those are his beliefs which you can't prove to be wrong and since you have nothing else to say, you go off into your land of make believe and try to correct him. 99.99% of the time we don't know wtf you are talking about, and you have just proven us right yet again.


Edited, Jun 10th 2006 at 3:16am EST by kalaria

I clicked on this expecting it to be a necropost. and I was right!

Hows about I don't lump all religionists into one, big, preconceived stereotype and you don't do it to atheists, eh?

Other people believing in an afterlife doesn't bother me. Why should it? We all adhere to the belief system that seems most true to ourselves (at least I try to tell myself that's people's basis for belief).

On the other hand, public policy and law based on religious dogma of only one segment of the population does bother me greatly. They're two different issues.

Uhm, I would like to see a clear and direct line of these changes through the fossil record. Is there a diagram somewhere that has every change, or even a majority of them that is 100% accurate?

If you don't have it, it's kind of like your just giving an opinion, not scientific fact.

To know something implies that you have cancelled out every other possible option, and the options are infinite... So do you KNOW for sure the direct path that humans evolved from?

Ok. So where is the evidence disproving any possibility of a higher being. Until you find that you cant really tell me that my belief is wrong. I am not forcing my ideals on you or anyone else who doesnt believe in a god. Everyone has the choice to believe what they want. I am Christian and in my belief its not my position to judge or even say if anyone is right or wrong. If you want to believe in the almighty paper monster than so be it. Am I saying your going to the Christian hell? No, because in my belief that is not my place.

Regardless of who is right and who is wrong we should all realize we are human beings and treat each other with respect. We are all along for this ride called life. I cant prove that God exists and you cant disprove it. We are all in the same boat. So answer me this, what gives you the right to say what I believe is wrong?

People have been "sure" of theories before, and Nature has had a way of tweaking their noses in the past. Evolution's a great theory - it does a really good job of explaining a lot of stuff we've observed.

Quantum Mechanics is also a great theory - better than any other system it explains what is observed in many sub-atomic experiments. However, string theory - or membrane or brane theory, as some now call it - is making a surprise comeback. Yeah, it may be that younger research physicists need something to justify their requests for grant money. But it may actually "work." And if it really does unify gravity w/ the other forces, it may very well bypass and supercede quantum mechanics (there is a school of thought that says bt may very well explain qm's "irrationalities" or "quirkiness").

Anyway, imo the "smart money" is on some big surprise popping up and requiring a major revisitation, at the very least, to evolution as currently stated. As a species we've only begun to think (if we really are thinking). Anyway, there's a point where dogmatic adherents, regardless of their perceived position, become pretty much the same.

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