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#1 Jul 05 2005 at 6:16 PM Rating: Decent
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All politics aside (if possible)

..and If you've been here, where did you go and waht did you think of it in comparison to other places of the world? Was the traffic better? waitresses sluttier? Were you accosted by any gansta-thugs or get lip from an uppity cop?

I'm always curious of an outsiders perspective of this place, being that I can never see myself in the mirror with my eyes closed..
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On that note, waht do our accents sound like to ya'll?

Our views of you guys would be apparent by watching Kevin Klines performance in Fish Called Wanda: "You, pompous, stuck-up, snot-nosed, English, giant, twerp, scum-bag, fu[/b]ck-faced, di[b]ckhead, a[b][/b]sshole!


I'm told that Americans are viewed as the typical beer-bellied, cigar-smoking, baseball cap-wearing, hyphen-using, loud and bellowing football* hooligans of the world.

Edited, Tue Jul 5 19:17:27 2005 by Kelvyquayo
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#2 Jul 05 2005 at 6:38 PM Rating: Good
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Kelvyquayo the Hand wrote:
All politics aside (if possible)

..and If you've been here, where did you go and waht did you think of it in comparison to other places of the world? Was the traffic better? waitresses sluttier? Were you accosted by any gansta-thugs or get lip from an uppity cop?

I'm always curious of an outsiders perspective of this place, being that I can never see myself in the mirror with my eyes closed..
photographs yeay..wahtever


On that note, waht do our accents sound like to ya'll?

Our views of you guys would be apparent by watching Kevin Klines performance in Fish Called Wanda: "You, pompous, stuck-up, snot-nosed, English, giant, twerp, scum-bag, fu[/b]ck-faced, di[b]ckhead, a[b][/b]sshole!


I'm told that Americans are viewed as the typical beer-bellied, cigar-smoking, baseball cap-wearing, hyphen-using, loud and bellowing football* hooligans of the world.


Ameh'kuh is a beautiful country with it's fair share of d[i][/i]ick-heads like any other.

Honest opinion?

Most of the people I worked with have been well-educated, tolerant and charming people.

Most of the people I have met on the streets or in bars have been poorly-educated, tolerant and charming people.

Most of the patients I've met (a very specific healthcare perspective) have been poorly-educated, tolerant and charming people (Most spoke Spanish, Russian or Laosian rather than english).

Traffic? Bigger, more wasteful cars with appalling performance compared to Europe. Little understanding of what performance cars can really do. (Your snail-like speed limits are a disgrace to the internal combustion engine)

Met some Gangstas in NYC, Bahhstahn and Springfield MA who were scary (but no scarier than English Gangsters) but appreciated being listened to without judgement. (Only met one in nasty circumstances (Bronx) but I spoke with a loud Fake-Posh accent into my lapel calling in support and the dude ran)

Police? Compared to UK, more arrogant and ill-informed.
Compared to mainland Europe, same arrogance, poorer education.

Kevin Kline's performance? Just Beautiful! A perfect parody (But written by 2 brits - Cleese and Crichton) Yes we are pompous and arrogant (deny that Pat!)

Standard English perception of Americans is based more on 'The OC' and 'Will and Grace' than any real experience (The majority of Brits who've been to the states assume Disneyland/Universal Studios tour are representative) so most assume you all live in Santa Monica condos and drive 5 series BMWs.

Accents? We have been bombarded with US Movies for 3 Generations so it sounds glamorous to most. I find a Noo Yoyk accent sounds a tad loutish, Bahsto'niun sounds fake-posh, and have even heard Sa'th Ca'lahnuh accents that were so sexy it was like a voice going down the front of my pants.

tarv/Pat/YSU/T3hD4v3. . . That ring bells?
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#3 Jul 05 2005 at 6:43 PM Rating: Good
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@ the accents:

Not sure how many "southern" movies and/or TV shows you've seen, but surely you realize that we in the south (for the most part) don't sound like that. I'd say 8 times out of 10, they get a northern or western person to play the southern part, and those idiots totally f[/b]uck up what can be a delightful drawl. Nicholas Cage in Con Air comes to mind. /shudder

Bastards.
#4 Jul 05 2005 at 6:51 PM Rating: Good
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@ the accents:

Not sure how many "southern" movies and/or TV shows you've seen, but surely you realize that we in the south (for the most part) don't sound like that. I'd say 8 times out of 10, they get a northern or western person to play the southern part, and those idiots totally f[/b]uck up what can be a delightful drawl. Nicholas Cage in Con Air comes to mind. /shudder

Bastards.


Understood. Similar to our use of southerner English actors to represent Northerners saying "fook" and sheeite" leaving everyone wondering what the accen's supposed to be.

Notable exceptions:

Renee Zellweger as Bridget Jones sounded genuinely outer London.

The Spinal Tap guys were convincing (OK Nigel Tuffnell is Brit but NYC raised and Derek Smalls (Bassist - Harry Shearer is Ned Flanders in The Simpsons)
Johnny Depp has done well (Neverland) and shagged up badly (that Jack the Ripper movie, I forget the title)

A genuine suth'n drawl can be seriously hawt.

But there are some universal English Language phrases.

How YOU doin'?

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#5 Jul 05 2005 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Southern accent...hot? Didn't see that one coming.

I have what most americans consider to be a "regular" accent. I sound like Tom Cruise or uh...Julia Roberts or Ben Affleck or whatever, when they're not faking an accent. Although sometimes I sound a bit canadian (I say eh? a lot) or like I'm from Wisconsin (dontchaknow). It's weird to think that the English aren't technically the ones with the accents o.O (I'm from Denver CO, if that helps)
#6 Jul 05 2005 at 7:20 PM Rating: Decent
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have been poorly-educated, tolerant and charming people (Most spoke Spanish, Russian or Laosian rather than english).


Wow. MOst ypical Americans speak no other language. They do try by brushing it by us in school... but all in all, we know squat.

Is I meet any American who knows another language I assume that they're immigrants or their parents were.

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Little understanding of what performance cars can really do. (Your snail-like speed limits are a disgrace to the internal combustion engine)


I think we make up for it With the haughty and boastful SUVs. But oft have I driven 30MPH down a 2 laned straight-away and yelled "WAht the **** is this 30MPH for!!?" No one does the speed limit anyway; save for old people and people smoking blunts.


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Accents? We have been bombarded with US Movies for 3 Generations so it sounds glamorous to most.


This suprises me. I always figured since Brit-English is the standard; we'd all be soundin' like a buncha drawling hillbilly Irish with our exagerrated 'RRRRrr's and root'n too'n-ness.


Funny
I speak the typical WAshington DC type I guess, but I've always been able to slip into a Southern accent on a whim, but a New Yaowk accent I'd have to work at. It does sound thuggish to me, like every tries to talk like a badass.... much like one would think everyone with a London accent is trying to talk like he's sophisticated. Intersting; the ingrained judgements that we have.

Being pretty much a Northerner however, real Southern accents no matter under waht context usually sound barbaric to me... sorta like a cockney I guess.

Evin those sweet'ole Sa'th Ca'lina acceants.

Though I see waht you mean. The "sing-songy" quality of the speech of the old Suthd'n eyastocracy.


WAht's really funny, is that blacks usually talk like Southerners and somtimes if I hear a goodole' white boy from the deep south talk, it sounds like a local black man speaking. ironic


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#7 Jul 05 2005 at 7:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Our views of you guys would be apparent by watching Kevin Klines performance in Fish Called Wanda: "You, pompous, stuck-up, snot-nosed, English, giant, twerp, scum-bag, ****-faced, ********* *******!


I can't argue that this is the common American perception of Brits, as I am not common in my perception of most things, but for me, it's not true. I'm a bona fide Anglophile, if for no other reason than their vernacular is just so much more colorful and expressive than ours. "************** is a brilliant all-purpose word and I wish I could use it in my everyday speech without getting looked at funny.

I did incorporate "bloody hell" into my vocabulary (more by osmosis than intentionally) after five years of worshipping Spike on Buffy, but I got a really strange look from my mother-in-law's British friend when I used it in front of her.
#8 Jul 05 2005 at 7:27 PM Rating: Good
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but a New Yaowk accent I'd have to work at.


For some odd reason, many people from RHode Island have the New York accent as well, which I never knew until this weekend.
My friends fiance is from Rhode Island, and while I've met her, I never sat down to really chat her up. She and I never seemed to "click", I guess. Anyways she was over for our bbq and I heard say coffee,which of course, I perked right up. But she didnt say coffe (caw fee), she said caufee, like she threw a U into the mix but then rolled it on her tongue. Hard to explain through writing, but suffice to say it was the perfect New Yawk accent. I commented on it, and she enlightened me that most people in her state tawk like that. We all found that odd as the state of Conneticut, another good friend of mine at the party grew up there, is between Rhode Island and New York, and they have no accents.

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#9 Jul 05 2005 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
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haha

I meant more the pomposity then anything, but merely based on speech and mannerisms... uhh or somthing.

I have "bloody" incorporated, but only upon true anger now and is usually used as "bloody fu[/b]cking -".

'********* I'll say out of nowhere while jokingly disagreeing with somthing.


other words I'll use jokingly in an English accent are stuff like:

Raa-thah
Daah-ling
Reaa-lee
Waaaht!
and
Faaak Eeewe!
oh and
Faak'n Cu[b]
nt!
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#10 Jul 05 2005 at 9:40 PM Rating: Good
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(Only met one in nasty circumstances (Bronx) but I spoke with a loud Fake-Posh accent into my lapel calling in support and the dude ran)

Smiley: lol
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#11 Jul 06 2005 at 3:45 AM Rating: Decent
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I've been stateside a couple of times and met Yank Sailors around the world on various Nato type things.

My main impression is Volume, you guys are the loudest people in the world.

Thats why you come across as arrogant and believe me the rest of the world HATE your arrogance. It reflects into your foriegn policies and tourists and can manage to rub people the wrong way.

An example.: I was walking down the main Street in plymouth (Population 600,000ish) when this dude bumbs into this kid who's looking over his sholder at a hot chick (yeah we've all done it)

The kids about 13 but appologises Immediately without even a pause, but the guy practically rips his throat out even though he could easily have moved, so i intervene (Kid look really scared)

he the turns to me and says "Who do you think you are loser go and get a f'ing real job before you start telling me what to do" (It's 1pm on friday and i'm on the way home)

I laugh and ask him if he wants to know what i do for a living and reach for my ID card, he practically crawling on the floor thinking i'm pulling a knife on him or something.

I show my ID and he pulls out a wallet with his American Driving licence and pull out this classic line "I come from the only remaining superpower in the world and we could nuke your sorry ***"

I'm sure we are allies or something...

if that had been a brit the kid had bumped into nothing would have even been said.

Generally i have had lots of poor experiances with the people of America outside of the USofA but lots of good ones stateside.

Moral: STOP SENDING THE JERKS ABROAD!!!!!

On accents:- the Canadians HATE being called American, thats why we do it.

There are more British accents than you can swing a stick at, for a good example try and pick up a copy of Auf Wiedersehem Pet a classic comedy

#12 Jul 06 2005 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
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With the accent thing I never really notice in films, actors seem to have a 'normal' accent unless of course they are actively attempting an accent.

But when I see interviews of the Average Joe Americans on news channels and such it is glaringly obvious with the difference in accents, but no more of a difference than if I went to a different area of England and heard that accent.

I don't hate America at all, America has been a great ally in the past, it's not the people or the country I dislike it's the government. (Sorry a bit Political)

I've never been to America so my views may just be biased by the American media we get over here, including your sh[/i]itty attempts at sitcoms. If I were to believe American T.V shows, all New Yorkers live in fancy apartments, have high flying jobs yet still have time to waste 90% of their time in coffee shops or just at home.

America, or shall I say Hollywood makes some good films along with the sh[i]
itty ones, but sometimes produces a classic film.

All in all, I don't hate America at all, I rather like it. I more hate our Continental European neighbours, be glad you only have Mexico and Canada to deal with.
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I lived in American for over a year, and I have therefore been about. I travel to America at least once per year through work.

I think American cities are brilliant - nothing like driving along and getting that first glimpse of an American downtown looming on the horizon.

American suburbia I completely hate - lacking in soul and character completely.

American people are very different, but pretty cool. The wooping and hollering should be calmed down, but generally friendly people, if a little poorly educated about the world outside of America. I do find American's a bit insincere, which would be my main cricism.

Compared to the rest of the world, I find America a bit boring overall - back to that lacking in character thing.

I wouldn't like to live in America permanently, but the cities are worth a vist, and I will be back.

Oh, and on average, I hate the food.
#15 Jul 06 2005 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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a good question

well having spent a few weeks in florida back in may my view on you guys has changed a little


at first i all ways beleved you to be nothing more then a bunch of aragent gun slinging tossers who keeps saying how great there nation is and waving a 10ft tall flag..... how ever after going to the states for 3 weeks iv learnt that your not as aragont as I origanly beleved and you not realy gunslingers but u do go on and on about your country and how great it is your also quite friendly plus your accents are kinder funny at times and you guys realy need to look up words or the pronounceiation of words

it was fun going over there don't know if I would go back if I do I mite vist Bostin but then again me and a friend of mine are planing to go to japan^^ don't know when

P.S I wounder what you guys think of us
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a good question

well having spent a few weeks in florida back in may my view on you guys has changed a little


at first i all ways beleved you to be nothing more then a bunch of aragent gun slinging tossers who keeps saying how great there nation is and waving a 10ft tall flag..... how ever after going to the states for 3 weeks iv learnt that your not as aragont as I origanly beleved and you not realy gunslingers but u do go on and on about your country and how great it is your also quite friendly plus your accents are kinder funny at times and you guys realy need to look up words or the pronounceiation of words

it was fun going over there don't know if I would go back if I do I mite vist Bostin but then again me and a friend of mine are planing to go to japan^^ don't know when


P.S I wounder what you guys think of us


Hehe thats because you went down south. Now granted, Florida is not technically considered part of the "south" i.e. gun slinging, so proud to be Americans their eyes are closed to everything else, but their close enough to the south that it tends to blend in sometimes. If you ever went to Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, or Kansas, TEXAS, yeah we have a lot of close minded overly proud and pompous people there. We try and keep them segrregated from the normal folk as much as we can Smiley: laugh.

I'm noticing alot of you all get an impression of us through tv, which makes sense. I never watch tv anymore, so I'm not up with the new sitcoms, but I think I can garuntee us "normal" every day Joes are nothing like what's being represented. And Im sure we get the same impression from the British tv that comes over here. If I were to base it soley on the tv from across the pond, I would assume you all have very dry black humor and some of you wear Kilts all the time.


Pat, I know you've been to NYC before, but what other parts of the country have you been to? I know what you mean about lacking in character for the suburbs. Anytime I go outside of New England, I can not believe how cut and paste the neighborhoods look. Maybe it's because I grew up in a very historic area for our country, but Im used to every house looking different, be it shape, color, etc. I'm used to seeing houses made from the 1600's still being used, with wrap around porches or stained glass windows. Outside of my little area though, you start getting into tract housing, where each house looks identical to the one next door.
Great example: my family lives in Michigan, and Id go visit them throughout the year. One cousin lived on a street where every house looked the same except for a different front door color. I always forgot which house was hers and every once in awhile I'd accidentally knock on the wrong door. I hate places like that Smiley: glare
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at first i all ways beleved you to be nothing more then a bunch of aragent gun slinging tossers who keeps saying how great there nation is and waving a 10ft tall flag..... how ever after going to the states for 3 weeks iv learnt that your not as aragont as I origanly beleved and you not realy gunslingers but u do go on and on about your country and how great it is your also quite friendly plus your accents are kinder funny at times and you guys realy need to look up words or the pronounceiation of words

it was fun going over there don't know if I would go back if I do I mite vist Bostin but then again me and a friend of mine are planing to go to japan^^ don't know when

P.S I wounder what you guys think of us

Seriously, this paragraph is a travesty of West Virginia English, let alone the Queen's.


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Pat, I know you've been to NYC before, but what other parts of the country have you been to?


I have lived in Pittsburgh (urrgh), and Champaign Il (double urrgh) because I was working there for a while. These places were so dull I started playing EQ!

Places I have visited:

New York - couple of times(very cool)
Boston (only place I would consider living because it feels like home)
Washington (yawn)
Chicago - many times (BIG EVERYTHING - lot of fun)
Miami (Very fun crusing in a fast car with roof down - like the spanish vibe)
Denver (yawn)

Probably a few other places I am forgetting. So I still need to get out west and do the LA/San Fran thing.

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You definitely need to come to San Francisco. Seattle is nice, too; but I'd recommend some more "western" places for the real out-West experience, though. Wyoming or Montana if you like mountains, Utah or New Mexico if you like canyons, or Colorado if you like both.

Those places are all more western than the west coast, and once you understand that you've made a big step toward understanding the American gestalt, if there even is such a thing.
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Only in Wyoming, I believe.

If you do the tour of Tombstone they may lend you a six-shooter, though.
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#22 Jul 06 2005 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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but a New Yaowk accent I'd have to work at.


For some odd reason, many people from RHode Island have the New York accent as well, which I never knew until this weekend.
My friends fiance is from Rhode Island, and while I've met her, I never sat down to really chat her up. She and I never seemed to "click", I guess. Anyways she was over for our bbq and I heard say coffee,which of course, I perked right up. But she didnt say coffe (caw fee), she said caufee, like she threw a U into the mix but then rolled it on her tongue. Hard to explain through writing, but suffice to say it was the perfect New Yawk accent. I commented on it, and she enlightened me that most people in her state tawk like that. We all found that odd as the state of Conneticut, another good friend of mine at the party grew up there, is between Rhode Island and New York, and they have no accents.


Yeah right, like you Mass-holes don't have accents. I don't think either sounds...new-yorkish. Maybe she spent a lot of time in New York...or suffered brain damage?

I remember when I first moved here from Vermont, I was in the first grade learning about ryhming. The teacher tried to tell us that Dog and Log ryhmed. Everyone else was saying "dauwg" and "log". I was saying "dog" and "log", and the teacher actually pulled me up to the front of the class "everyone listen!" Like I was some sort of grammatical freak.
#23 Jul 06 2005 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
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A lot of people do have the Boston accent and it is god awful!!! I dont have it nearly as bad as the steryotype, but I have been informed by both Flea and Nobby I have a little one Smiley: laugh I still think theyre on crack.



Pat I live close to Boston and the place is cool, despite the accent. DId yougo check out the suburbs there? Concord, Lexington, etc? Those areas are the ones Im talking about and the burbs are cool looking IMO
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Pat I live close to Boston and the place is cool, despite the accent. DId yougo check out the suburbs there? Concord, Lexington, etc? Those areas are the ones Im talking about and the burbs are cool looking IMO


Just spent time downtown, and nipped over to see Harvard, so didn't really get out into the suburbs.
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haha did you see all the hippies and hobos in Harvard Square? Such an odd place
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I love it when people try to place my "Accent"

I don't sound like I'm from any of the places I lived.

Only 2 people ever caught on that I can't hear a few sounds, when we first met. Jonwin who has volunteer massages at a camp for the deaf and a man who child is deaf and wife works at the Child and Speach Angency in Baltimore. My daughters speach therapist explain once how I can't heard a few phomemes, but she paid to detect such things. They didn't know about language processing disorders, when I was in speach therapy.

Most folks place me from somewhere in New England. I was born in Chicago and lived in Pittsburg PA, from 14 months until I was 5. Then we moved to Northern VA. (1.5 years), Chevy Chase, MD (4.5 years) and Columbia MD for almost 6 years.

My family since has settled in Baltimore, while I moved around alot as a navy wife. Closest I lived to New England, was summers spent in Westchester Co. NY, with my aunt and uncle.

My family just calls the "accent" Elnese.
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