Evil Science explains the gay thing a little moreFollow

So if my kid turns out to be gay, I can blame his mother?

Kick ***.

Of course, that was my plan to start with but it's nice to be vindicated by science.

There is a 30-50% chance its genetic so maybe your faulty and inferior pollack genes are at fault if your son grows up to be "sissy~fied". Considering your membership in the Allafemmes the percentage may even be higher.

People will always try and find evidence that being gay is natural and not because of social circumstances. That gives homosexuals the excuse that they are not at fault for their orientation, but nature is, and they are not to blame. I can give you many studies shown on how sexually abused children are more predisposed to being gay. Or certain family conditions produce children with a higher probability of being gay. Like I said, some people are in a constant pursuit of discovering evidence to prove that homosexuals are gay by nature, not through their own conscious actions.

Anyone can be gay at any moment. If you think hard and long enough about something and dwell on it, then one day you actually go through with it. The token gay people (the flamers with high voices and act like cheerleaders) are not actually gay IMO. They have conditioned themselves to fit the stereotypical profile of a gay male: flirty and feminine. When I was in highschool I knew two people like this. People called them gay all the time for whatever reason. They got to thinking that maybe they actually were gay and everyone was right. So they began fitting themselves into the profile of a gay male, and acting like the stereotype. When they graduated they renounced that behavior and returned to their normal personalities.

People are not gay by nature. Everyone has at one point been tempted by the random thought of homosexuality, even in its most insignificant amount, asked themselves "what if." Most people just move on and forget about it, and say to themselves "where the hell did THAT thought come from." But other people choose to not forget about it and continue to dwell on it. THOSE people are the people that are more predisposed to becoming gay. Especially in a society today where homosexuality and self expression are encouraged. The percentage of homosexuals in this nation has increased as general acceptance for it has increased. The more people approve of homosexuality, the more homosexuals will appear, and they begin to explore new lifestyles because of the lack of condemnation for it.

And, if it is natural, they will eventually succeed. Much like the cited study would have one think. What's your point besides a chance to give your own half-assed guesses and rantings?

Closet **** much PraetorianX?

Hehe. This is the best bit:



No need to be so repressed there Prae, let it all hang out!

Are you thinking hard and long enough right now Prae?

Easy now, don't get it all over the screen

No wonder the homophobes hate them! Here we thought it was just because the homophobes were closet cases, but they actually are jealous of the gay guys **************

Does the fact that the conservatives have ***** envy make them gay?

If so, it explains a lot of the gay bashing. Both closet cases and ***** envy on top of it.

Glad to see an unbiased link that backs up my theory.

Only cause they want to join in the action but don't have the balls to do so

I am not going to get into the nature versus nurture debate, however there is one thing I learned in getting my MS in Environmental Science: homosexuality is natural negative feedback to population growth present in most if not all mammals. Even more importantly it increases geometrically with population density, meaning it cannot be genetic. If it were genetic it would increase arithmetically, not geometrically. It increases with higher population density due to population density stress just like other negative feedbacks. That does not mean it is a choice, rather it may have origins in stress related birth defects or development defects.

One popular theory is that all are born with the potential to have many negative feedbacks (including homosexuality) and we are also born with the natural adversion to the negative feedback (in this case “homophobia”) which is broken down due to population stress.

I believe that there are many different causes to homosexuality and it varies from the pre birth defect to the post birth development change. None of which involve making any real choices. I think it would be foolish to assume all homosexuals became that way due to the same reason.

Is Praetorian is trying to air out his closet?

sorry, but you just did.


True enough. That is why they explained that causes include genetics for some and number of different hormonal imbalances during pregnancy for others that seem to end with the baby being destined to like or dislike certain genders.


Once again the results of the article state that genetics only accounts for 30-50% of it while a variety of different hormonal imabalances and interactions lead to being "teh ghey" so your argument that if it was genetic it wouldnt add up is kind of flawed.

Also it doesnt take into account human beings and the fact that unlike most animal populations we choose where we live which would explain the variance in homosexuals in the population say in New York compared to say small town Idaho.


So you boil it down to a little bit nature and a little bit nuture. Nuture in that conflicting social pressure and negative feedback can tip the balance in which particular set of genitals you are going to have a preference.



Oooh you call it a defect! I am outraged and morally offended.

Edited, Tue Jul 5 17:19:42 2005 by bhodisattva

Edited, Tue Jul 5 17:27:15 2005 by bhodisattva