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#1 Jul 02 2005 at 2:02 AM Rating: Decent
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http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000972839

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Now that Time Inc. has turned over documents to federal court, presumably revealing who its reporter, Matt Cooper, identified as his source in the Valerie Plame/CIA case, speculation runs rampant on the name of that source, and what might happen to him or her. Tonight, on the syndicated McLaughlin Group political talk show, Lawrence O'Donnell, senior MSNBC political analyst, claimed to know that name--and it is, according to him, top White House mastermind Karl Rove.


This could turn out to be a huge turn of events, if it is confirmed. At the very least this spells the loss of Rove as a WH player and a huge PR mess for bushco.
#2 Jul 02 2005 at 4:19 AM Rating: Good
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I wonder how many people would be suprised to find out Karl Rove did something seedy and underhanded like this.
#3 Jul 02 2005 at 4:53 AM Rating: Good
Git a rope, boys.
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#5 Jul 02 2005 at 12:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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That rumor has been floating around for a couple of years. It'll be interesting to see if the source is finally revealed.

Whoever is was committed treason and put every operative we have out there in danger, and should be treated accordingly.

The journalist for his part should never have reported the story as far as I'm concerned.
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#6 Jul 03 2005 at 2:41 AM Rating: Decent
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OK, I don't come to this board often, but I made a special exception to see if this was being discussed. So far, I think only MSNBC and Newsweek are covering this. I haven't seen a single mention of this on any of the other major news websites, just crap about missing people that the entire nation doesn't really need to know about anyway.

Now, Rove has not officially been pointed to as the one who leaked this information, but so far no one has, and no one will until the documents are released later this week.

However, the fact is that Karl Rove is currently being indicated to be involved with a crime considered to be treason, possibly perjury as well, and this is huge news in itself. The brains behind an administration that cloaks itself in patriotism and nationalistic jingoism is being accused of treason. Yet, so far, no one seems to care. Whatever political affiliation you subscribe to, this is important, whatever the documents reveal.
#7 Jul 05 2005 at 7:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Looks like Rove's lawyer found the loophole he needed, and he's talking.

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Luskin then launched what sounds like an I-did-not-inhale defense. He told Newsweek that his client "never knowingly disclosed classified information." Knowingly. That is the most important word Luskin said in what has now become his public version of the Rove defense.
#8 Jul 05 2005 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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I doubt they will pin anything on Rove. If they did the Intelligence Identities Protection Act has a maximum of 10 years for a sentence and it would be nice to see him serve the full time.

Its just another case of Bush administration playing dirty and underhanded and was more than likely an attack on her husband because he was public and loud about the fact that the story of Saddam trying to buy Yellow Cake uranium in Niger was false.
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#9 Jul 05 2005 at 5:37 PM Rating: Decent
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The Glorious Atomicflea wrote:
Looks like Rove's lawyer found the loophole he needed, and he's talking.

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Luskin then launched what sounds like an I-did-not-inhale defense. He told Newsweek that his client "never knowingly disclosed classified information." Knowingly. That is the most important word Luskin said in what has now become his public version of the Rove defense.


Lol. I love how the author of that site, makes a point to pick out the "never knowingly disclosed classified information" bit (with a huge diatribe about the potential inferred meaning of the word "knowingly", but if you read the sources he used, he left out the second quote. Let me toss this bit from the newsweek article

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Luskin told NEWSWEEK that Rove "never knowingly disclosed classified information" and that "he did not tell any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA." Luskin declined, however, to discuss any other details.


Funny how he uses the first quote to create innuendo that is completely discredited in a second quote, one sentence farther into the article.

Luskin is quoted as saying that Rove did not tell any reportere (So, neither Cooper *or* Novak) about Valerie Plame's employment at the CIA.

So unless he's lying (which would be silly since the documents are all available to the investigators now). Rove wasn't the leak.

Nice bit of desperate innuendo though. Read the facts guys. Not some nutjob's re-interpretation of them...
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#10 Jul 05 2005 at 5:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think it was ever averred that she was named by name, but that her husband was outed as receiving special treatment because he was married to an agent.
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#11 Jul 05 2005 at 7:59 PM Rating: Good
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Duchess SamiraX wrote:
I don't think it was ever averred that she was named by name, but that her husband was outed as receiving special treatment because he was married to an agent.


Wouldn't that qualify as telling a reporter that she worked for the CIA? Whether referred to by name or as his wife is irrelevant. The quote directly states that Rove did neither.


I guess my main source of amazement is how we go from Rove being one source (out of many) for the article, to Rove being "named as the Plame leak" (as stated in the subject). Isn't that a bit of a stretch? Reporters use lots of sources when writing a story. The play we're seeing is with the words. By naming Rove as a "source", some people might assume that meant Rove was the source of the leak. Of course, the actual articles involved never said that, and in fact contain quotes stating the exact opposite, but that apparently didn't stop the above linked nutjob from writing his own take on it, and it didn't stop the OP from creating a thread with that assumption named in the title.


I just wish people would actually *read* the information in front of them instead of just leaping to the first convenient conclusion. Obviously, until the contents of the documents turned over by Time become public, we can't possibly know who said what, whether there's any information about a possible leak, or who that leak was. And if people want to conjecture, that's great. But stating a completely falsehood? Rove was most certainly not named as the Plame Leak. He was named as one source contacted for an article. That's it. Everything else is pure speculation. And silly speculation when you've got direct quotes saying that he was not responsible for the leak in the very article that prompted the thread in the first place...
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