Yo yo yoFollow

You mean I can't blast the EQ battle music out my car anymore??

OH NOES!!

I look forward to joining you on your lawn. I don't mind if you want to play your music loud, but I shouldn't have to blast my stereo just to block out the din of yours.

Yeah those laws are stupid for the fact that it is left up to the cop to determine what is too loud. They can just use it to discriminate.

When I was 17 I was at the beach on the strip with myself driving and another friend driving. I had a new Saturn SC2 at this time back in 95, it was a nice looking car and had a very loud stereo in it. My friend was driving a beat up Ford Ranger with a stock stereo system in it. We pass by a cop and I had my bass up pretty loud and thought I was hit for sure. The cop passes me and pulls my friend over and gives him a ticket for having his music too loud. If anyone knows a late 80's stock Ford stereo system they can understand how stupid this was.

Edited, Wed Jun 29 10:33:06 2005 by Proroc

Audible from 75 feet away. What's left to determine?

It did say "music" though so maybe I can still get away with turning up Bill O'Reilly full bore.

I don't have a "great" stereo in my car but it's definitely a notch up from the stock setup (400w amplifier and a 10" subwoofer in a box in the trunk). I can't stand rap and the thudding bass associated with it but I must say that "Can't Fight this Feeling Anymore" by REO Stationwagon sounds great cranked up. I get funny looks from the other motorists but who cares, tis good music.

That awesome! You must have a magic stereo that transforms REO Speedwagon into music that doesn't suck!

That musta cost a fortune...

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Edited, Wed Jun 29 10:44:09 2005 by Martant

Ya, they are stupid, right up to the time it's the lot across from your house that the kids decide to designate the local 10pm-4am crappy stereo soundoff nightly hangout. Nothing's better on a weeknight than to listen to the rust rattle off some dipsh[u][/u]its 86 bronco for 3 hours until the battery goes dead.

Obviously there was a problem in that community or else "loud music prompted the most consistent complaints" wouldn't have prompted the passing of the new law.

You know how some people play their iPods so loud that you can hear their music through their headphones? I was on the Metro a couple of months ago and some guy was just flat rockin' out to... Kenny G...

If you're going to ruin your hearing and turn your brain to paste, at least do it with some style ffs.

what I'm saying is if they're going to make a law like this I would like to see some type of effective mechanical device for measuring it..

and I'd like to see a set "level" similiar to a breathalizer test..

as it stands it's FAR FAR FAR too easily subjected to human nature and personal likes and dislikes... only now if someone dislikes it, they can fine the other person 500$ and get their car impounded.

create a meter to measure it..

make it a mandatory device for measuring...

mandate a set "level" not to exceed..

remove the "human" factor as much as possible and at least then there's a slightly better hope of someone not getting screwed over because the cop in question just doesn't like rap.

edit: either that or they need to change the volume dial on stereo systems to read 5', 10', 15', 20'...

Edited, Wed Jun 29 11:13:43 2005 by Iaini

Fine, I'm going to park 70 feet away from your land and blast REO Speedwagon until your stupid pine trees fall over!

Wanna get some Metamucil for lunch there g-pa?

I doubt the Park Forest police station has an R&D department for creating sound measuring devices. Besides, it'd be near impossible to do properly. I could point a "sound detector" at your car from 100' away, make a loud yelp as I hit the button and say the 60 decibel reading on the gun came from your car.

Most traffic matters are ultimately at the discretion of the officer. He could lie about me not signalling when I make a turn or he could ignore the fact that I didn't signal when making a turn. He could say I'm driving erraticly. Or that I'm not wearing my seatbelt. Whichever. But he doesn't know you're listening to "rap music" unless you're already playing it loud enough to be heard in his car. In which case, I can hear it in my car and my level of caring about you just dropped a significant degree.

Jim Anchower, REO Speedwagon fan.

But a law that could REALLY use such a device can be tossed in overnight due to being impulsive.. then the hopes are that the technology follows.... [:shrug:]

as for sound and distance.. well it doesn't magically stop at 5' or 10' for that matter.. and two cars beside each other are WELL within a 5' envelope.. and what sounds perfectly fine at 5' can also be heard pretty well at 10' too...

As I said 75 feet is a BIG range.. however it's that area between approx 15' and about 30' or so that's rather "gray", now without knowing the lettering of the ruling I don't know if it's audible at 75 feet or up to 75 feet.. taking a stab at human nature I'm going to guess it's up to 75 feet.. I can't claim to be the legal type but a ruling of at 75 feet seems a bit silly since I doubt a policeman is going to walk approx 75 feet away and give a listen.. just doesn't make sense..

however..

if indeed it is up to 75 feet.. in theory if a police car pulls up beside you and your music is the type to annoy the crap out of him.. (and remember two cars side by side is within a 5' envelope) he can claim it's too loud and at least slap you with the fine...

if it's at 75 feet and say a policeman were to pull me over about stereo volume first thing I'm going to say is "let's take a walk" and I'm going to make him go 75 feet away from my car......

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it's TOO subjective, what's worse is depending on wording it's subjective in favor of someone in a position of power over music which reaks of personal preference. To compound it there is no easy way to mitigate the human factor..

true most traffic issues are at the discretion of the officer but the difference between a lot of them is that you *know* when you don't signal... you know when you're swerving a little, and you know when your seatbelt isn't on, all these things have very obvious visual cues..... If your stereo system is turned to the max you know it's loud.. but it doesn't come with a distance meter... if it's not turned to the max.. can you honestly tell me without doubt that at 20 to 50% volume it can or cannot be heard at 75 feet?

probably not.. but it can be heard at 10 to 15 feet at that volume without a doubt, and even as high as 20'+

That law as it stands now needs some re-thinking... if it's *at* 75 feet it's effectively useless against all but the most powerful of systems.. if it's *up to* 75 feet it puts far far too much power at the whim of human nature.