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#152 Jun 27 2005 at 11:21 PM Rating: Good
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Oogami wrote:

If a woman is going to be held reponsible for aborting a baby, why not the man who made her pregnant too? After all she could not have gotten pregnant without him.


True. I think we should stab each offending male in the balls with a steak knife. That'll learn 'em.



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#153 Jun 28 2005 at 2:02 AM Rating: Decent
have you ever noticed that abortions are always the womans fault/responsiblity and not the man's? last time i checked it took 2 to tango. bleh..
#154 Jun 28 2005 at 2:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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meseta wrote:
have you ever noticed that abortions are always the womans fault/responsiblity and not the man's? last time i checked it took 2 to tango. bleh..


Yes. But the flip side of the Roe v. Wade decision is that abortions become the choice almost exclusively of the woman. In order to make the ruling they did, the court had to establish that the issue was one of privacy and control over one's own body, but in so doing, they essentially placed full choice and responsiblity on the woman as well. Clearly, the "choice" in pro-choice is no one's but the womans, right? Think about it...
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#155 Jun 28 2005 at 4:46 AM Rating: Good
1.) Never trust a religious organization with a political agenda, or at least have the common courtesy to blow a finger off come July 4th.

2.) Never trust a someone condemning abortion unless they've adopted a child.

3.) Birth control doesn't lose it's effectiveness or appeal after marriage, thank you very much.

4.) Never trust any person or institute that prioritizes sin. When was the last time you seen protestors outside of a trial involving shop-lifting?

5.) Never trust any person or institute that act as if God declined his exclusive ability to grant or deny salvation, and gave that ability to them.

6.) Never trust any person that chose religion as a career instead of a calling. These people are easy to spot, they dress in clothes you can't affort, drive cars you couldn't pay to keep insured, and live in houses above your budget. They pay for these things from other peoples handouts, and claim that preaching is a full time job (insinuating that they couldn't possibly get a real job and earn their own money, and that the bible is constantly being changed and updated, say like the medical field).

7.) Never trust a republican stance on sex (it's like trusting a democrats stance on gun control, just stupid).

8.) Never trust anyone that make people feel guilty about having a sex drive. This is a physiological drive, like hunger and sleep, and have no moral or religious merit on its own. Teenagers' monsterous libidos have nothing to do with inherent wickeness that can only be redeemed by guilt and repenting but has everything to do with hormone levels that would probably stroke someone double their age. Knowledge will guide our youth to handling sex responsibly, not demonization and condemnation.

Edited, Tue Jun 28 05:54:51 2005 by Etoc
#156 Jun 28 2005 at 6:49 AM Rating: Default
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Lefein, Guardian of the Glade wrote:
Why do we have to call them pro-lifers? Why can't we call them anti- choice? Pro- authoritarians? Anti- freedom?




How about anti woman?
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#157 Jun 28 2005 at 8:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tare the Picky wrote:
Oogami wrote:

If a woman is going to be held reponsible for aborting a baby, why not the man who made her pregnant too? After all she could not have gotten pregnant without him.


True. I think we should stab each offending male in the balls with a steak knife. That'll learn 'em.

/singsong

Someone's feeling that lack of sleep again!!!
#158 Jun 28 2005 at 9:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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#159 Jun 28 2005 at 9:41 AM Rating: Good
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Lefein, Guardian of the Glade wrote:

Why do we have to call them pro-lifers? Why can't we call them anti- choice? Pro- authoritarians? Anti- freedom?






How about anti woman?


why can't we just call you anti-life ot pro-death
#160 Jun 28 2005 at 9:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Telleah wrote:
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Lefein, Guardian of the Glade wrote:

Why do we have to call them pro-lifers? Why can't we call them anti- choice? Pro- authoritarians? Anti- freedom?






How about anti woman?


why can't we just call you anti-life ot pro-death

Holy hell! We found The One!!! The leader of the movement!!! We have her in our sights, and her sauce is thankfully, quite weak. This should be quick.
#161 Jun 28 2005 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
hey i've got like 5 posts in this thread but i have brain and didn't make retarded statements and even was countering the other retarded posts in favor of pro-life...i realize that that i will never change someones mind in an online forum and therefore prefer not to do the flame war...if you want my views i'll give them but you must all realize i do have the right to my options
#162 Jun 28 2005 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Telleah wrote:
you must all realize i do have the right to my options
Isn't that what pro-choice people are asking for?
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#163 Jun 28 2005 at 9:59 AM Rating: Good
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Telleah wrote:
you must all realize i do have the right to my options


I reject your options and substitute my own!

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#164 Jun 28 2005 at 10:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tare the Picky wrote:
Telleah wrote:
you must all realize i do have the right to my options


I reject your options and substitute my own!
Quick, let's pass a law!!!
#165 Jun 28 2005 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Telleah wrote:
you must all realize i do have the right to my options
Isn't that what pro-choice people are asking for?


BAM!
#166 Jun 28 2005 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
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Telleah wrote:

you must all realize i do have the right to my options


Isn't that what pro-choice people are asking for?


no the pro-choice movement is wanting to force a choice on those of us that believe there is no choice to be made...unforunatly the law is on their side
#167 Jun 28 2005 at 10:14 AM Rating: Good
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Telleah wrote:
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Telleah wrote:

you must all realize i do have the right to my options


Isn't that what pro-choice people are asking for?


no the pro-choice movement is wanting to force a choice on those of us that believe there is no choice to be made...unforunatly the law is on their side


No the pro choice people want to be able to make their own choices legally. Pro choice does not mean those who are prolife HAVE to have abortions. Prochoice means they want to have the choice on being able to have an abortion if they so choose
#168 Jun 28 2005 at 10:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ahhh... you have the right to your options, but they don't have the right to theirs -- even when their decisions don't affect what you personally may or may not do.

You're quite the open minded individual, yes?
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#169 Jun 28 2005 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
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you must all realize i do have the right to my options


It is a myth that people have a right to their own opinions, because they don't.
#170 Jun 28 2005 at 10:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Telleah wrote:
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Telleah wrote:

you must all realize i do have the right to my options


Isn't that what pro-choice people are asking for?


no the pro-choice movement is wanting to force a choice on those of us that believe there is no choice to be made...unforunatly the law is on their side

Just to clear this up, although I find it hard to believe that one person, much less what I sadly assume to be a woman is this stupid:

You can choose to have your baby. By all means. Have him/her, breastfeed in public, teach him all about Jesus and Hell, how to save for retirement and how to catch lightning bugs. Knock yourself out. You get this choice! It's all yours.

I, in the meantime, get to choose the opposite. Without consulting you or anyone else. Get it? Choice!! It's a beautiful thing.

If you disagree with this, PM me so I can give you my #, then you can call me with every major life desicion you have and I can tell you whether or not I approve before you go ahead with it. I've decided I'm smarter than you, and it's my God-given right to tell you how to live.
#171 Jun 28 2005 at 10:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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For the record, I concur with Flea so it's now 2:1 her favor that she's smarter than you and more qualified to make your decisions.

Yay democracy!
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#172 Jun 28 2005 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
Wait a minute...can anyone get in on that phone number offer? I want to talk to teh hot chicks!
#173 Jun 28 2005 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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If you disagree with this, PM me so I can give you my #, then you can call me with every major life desicion you have and I can tell you whether or not I approve before you go ahead with it. I've decided I'm smarter than you, and it's my God-given right to tell you how to live.


ignorant statements like that would be the reason i mainly do not post...yes you all do have the right to believe in the murder of the defenceless...i believe it is the job of the government to protect the defenceless and not to make their murder legal...not person has the right to deside if another human lives or dies...and before you start there tons of medical proof and facts that show that the baby is no more part of the woman then i am part of you
#174 Jun 28 2005 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ahhh.. so you think people should only have options that fit in your own ethical framework.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#175 Jun 28 2005 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
Telleah,

Spellcheck is your friend. Use it.

Edited, Tue Jun 28 11:40:44 2005 by Spirish
#176 Jun 28 2005 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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and before you start there tons of medical proof and facts that show that the baby is no more part of the woman then i am part of you


Without getting into the rest of your ignorant post, I'm going to focus on this part. Tons of medical proof? Where? Give us links to back up your statement. Show us medical documentation validating your statement.

For the love of God give us some supporting information instead of flailing about like the ignorant **** that you are. Just because a sad, pathetic person (look in mirror for example) makes a statement doesn't make it true. Stop giving Pro-lifers a bad name.

Please remember people that people like this are not the Christain majority.
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