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While Rove was obviously being a di[b][/b]ck by trying to smear the Democrats...
...what exactly is wrong with showing understanding?
Sure, it makes it harder to blindly hate them, but the hi-jackers probably had actual reasonable motives inside their heads. Understanding them will serve us better in the long run than putting on blinders and pretending they're spawns of satan, not real people.
trickybeck wrote:
And as I walked on through troubled times
My spirit gets so downhearted sometimes
So where are the strong
And who are the trusted?
And where is the harmony?
Sweet harmony...
'Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry
What's so funny 'bout peace, love & understanding?
What's so funny 'bout peace, love & understanding?
My spirit gets so downhearted sometimes
So where are the strong
And who are the trusted?
And where is the harmony?
Sweet harmony...
'Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry
What's so funny 'bout peace, love & understanding?
What's so funny 'bout peace, love & understanding?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Ok, +5 for Joph for being right, but uncertain.
And a +1 for Eld; I only saw Finding Nemo once so I didn't know offhand.
And a +1 for Eld; I only saw Finding Nemo once so I didn't know offhand.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Debalic wrote:
Ok, +5 for Joph for being right, but uncertain.
And a +1 for Eld; I only saw Finding Nemo once so I didn't know offhand.
And a +1 for Eld; I only saw Finding Nemo once so I didn't know offhand.
Woo hoo!
WTF? You never said we had to proclaim our answer with great confidence.
Now gimme my other 5pts or I'll karma kamp yer ***
Now gimme my other 5pts or I'll karma kamp yer ***
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
trickybeck wrote:
While Rove was obviously being a di[b][/b]ck by trying to smear the Democrats...
...what exactly is wrong with showing understanding?
Sure, it makes it harder to blindly hate them, but the hi-jackers probably had actual reasonable motives inside their heads. Understanding them will serve us better in the long run than putting on blinders and pretending they're spawns of satan, not real people.
...what exactly is wrong with showing understanding?
Sure, it makes it harder to blindly hate them, but the hi-jackers probably had actual reasonable motives inside their heads. Understanding them will serve us better in the long run than putting on blinders and pretending they're spawns of satan, not real people.
"Rove", "di[/i]ck" and "smear" in the first sentence distracted me.
Ew.
[i]Edited, Fri Jun 24 16:06:23 2005 by Atomicflea
Jophiel wrote:
WTF? You never said we had to proclaim our answer with great confidence.
Now gimme my other 5pts or I'll karma kamp yer ***
Now gimme my other 5pts or I'll karma kamp yer ***
Hey, if you tried to pull that wishy-washy "I'm not sure" bullsh[/b]it on The Weakest Link you'd be catapaulted into the studio ceiling! Now be a man and state your knowledge of 20-year-old cartoon movies with some goddam authority!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
So should we be giving optional psychiatric care to captured terrorists then? How does trying to understand them aid us in the defeat of terrorism?
Compassion is not a feminine trait, it is a human trait. Compassion for people that want to cut your head off is misguided compassion however. But still, I am not following how showing such compassion and attempted understanding towards people that want to annhilate the population of the United States is going to help us end the war sooner. Where is the compassion for U.S. soldiers that have lost the moral to fight in the middle east because of divided support back home?
Why is it that people like Durbin and others like him think they could even possibly fathom the culture of middle-eastern Islamic society. How very arrogant that they think they have the means to teach them peace, understanding, love, compassion when they have known nothing but death and destruction for a thousand years. Death, IS in their culture. You want to teach them compassion and love for all human kind, that goes against their holy book, but you do not want to spread democracy to them, how odd. Also, how very hippocritical of you people for acting like you care so much for people that want to decapitate you, but curse and foam at the mouth at a Christian or Jew that dares open his mouth about any trivial topic.
It is so ironic to me where your loyalties lie. You care more about the lives and well-being of terrorists than giving the benefit of the doubt to U.S. soldiers. You are more interested in stories and tall-tales of mild abuse of terrorists than the lives of American soldiers. How amusing you all are. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder. I have no other explanation than that to describe the disconnection that you all have from normal base line society.
Maybe Rove was right about some people in this country. If it is so bad to you, maybe you should move on out to Afghanistan and put on a turbin, and convert to Islam. Oh wait, you are the infidel and they would sooner put you to death than witness you defile one grain of sand on their "holy" land.
Compassion is not a feminine trait, it is a human trait. Compassion for people that want to cut your head off is misguided compassion however. But still, I am not following how showing such compassion and attempted understanding towards people that want to annhilate the population of the United States is going to help us end the war sooner. Where is the compassion for U.S. soldiers that have lost the moral to fight in the middle east because of divided support back home?
Why is it that people like Durbin and others like him think they could even possibly fathom the culture of middle-eastern Islamic society. How very arrogant that they think they have the means to teach them peace, understanding, love, compassion when they have known nothing but death and destruction for a thousand years. Death, IS in their culture. You want to teach them compassion and love for all human kind, that goes against their holy book, but you do not want to spread democracy to them, how odd. Also, how very hippocritical of you people for acting like you care so much for people that want to decapitate you, but curse and foam at the mouth at a Christian or Jew that dares open his mouth about any trivial topic.
It is so ironic to me where your loyalties lie. You care more about the lives and well-being of terrorists than giving the benefit of the doubt to U.S. soldiers. You are more interested in stories and tall-tales of mild abuse of terrorists than the lives of American soldiers. How amusing you all are. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder. I have no other explanation than that to describe the disconnection that you all have from normal base line society.
Maybe Rove was right about some people in this country. If it is so bad to you, maybe you should move on out to Afghanistan and put on a turbin, and convert to Islam. Oh wait, you are the infidel and they would sooner put you to death than witness you defile one grain of sand on their "holy" land.
PraetorianX wrote:
I am bored and I want people to flame me.
Baron von Roller wrote:
The ACTUAL people flying the planes into the buildings are dead obviously, nothin much we can do to them now.
Find their remains and broadcast their burial over satellite.
Put their left hands in their mouths (or skulls respectively) then,before burying their bodies, pour pigs blood on the remains.
PraetorianX wrote:
So should we be giving optional psychiatric care to captured terrorists then? How does trying to understand them aid us in the defeat of terrorism?
Compassion is not a feminine trait, it is a human trait. Compassion for people that want to cut your head off is misguided compassion however. But still, I am not following how showing such compassion and attempted understanding towards people that want to annhilate the population of the United States is going to help us end the war sooner. Where is the compassion for U.S. soldiers that have lost the moral to fight in the middle east because of divided support back home?
Why is it that people like Durbin and others like him think they could even possibly fathom the culture of middle-eastern Islamic society. How very arrogant that they think they have the means to teach them peace, understanding, love, compassion when they have known nothing but death and destruction for a thousand years. Death, IS in their culture. You want to teach them compassion and love for all human kind, that goes against their holy book, but you do not want to spread democracy to them, how odd. Also, how very hippocritical of you people for acting like you care so much for people that want to decapitate you, but curse and foam at the mouth at a Christian or Jew that dares open his mouth about any trivial topic.
It is so ironic to me where your loyalties lie. You care more about the lives and well-being of terrorists than giving the benefit of the doubt to U.S. soldiers. You are more interested in stories and tall-tales of mild abuse of terrorists than the lives of American soldiers. How amusing you all are. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder. I have no other explanation than that to describe the disconnection that you all have from normal base line society.
Maybe Rove was right about some people in this country. If it is so bad to you, maybe you should move on out to Afghanistan and put on a turbin, and convert to Islam. Oh wait, you are the infidel and they would sooner put you to death than witness you defile one grain of sand on their "holy" land.
Compassion is not a feminine trait, it is a human trait. Compassion for people that want to cut your head off is misguided compassion however. But still, I am not following how showing such compassion and attempted understanding towards people that want to annhilate the population of the United States is going to help us end the war sooner. Where is the compassion for U.S. soldiers that have lost the moral to fight in the middle east because of divided support back home?
Why is it that people like Durbin and others like him think they could even possibly fathom the culture of middle-eastern Islamic society. How very arrogant that they think they have the means to teach them peace, understanding, love, compassion when they have known nothing but death and destruction for a thousand years. Death, IS in their culture. You want to teach them compassion and love for all human kind, that goes against their holy book, but you do not want to spread democracy to them, how odd. Also, how very hippocritical of you people for acting like you care so much for people that want to decapitate you, but curse and foam at the mouth at a Christian or Jew that dares open his mouth about any trivial topic.
It is so ironic to me where your loyalties lie. You care more about the lives and well-being of terrorists than giving the benefit of the doubt to U.S. soldiers. You are more interested in stories and tall-tales of mild abuse of terrorists than the lives of American soldiers. How amusing you all are. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder. I have no other explanation than that to describe the disconnection that you all have from normal base line society.
Maybe Rove was right about some people in this country. If it is so bad to you, maybe you should move on out to Afghanistan and put on a turbin, and convert to Islam. Oh wait, you are the infidel and they would sooner put you to death than witness you defile one grain of sand on their "holy" land.
Trying to understand someone is not equal to support of their actions. It's ignorant to pretend that these things happen in a vaccum. If you ignore the circumstances that lead to violence, how do you ever expect to prevent them? It's more accurate to say that you're more a reactive than proactive thinker. Both are needed, but condemnation of a school of thought not your own is not only simply ignorant, but dangerously short-minded. If 9/11 proved anything, it's that we're not a golden city on a hill anymore. Welcome to the world. Now learn to live in it.
Edited, Fri Jun 24 16:32:35 2005 by Atomicflea
Quote:
Trying to understand someone is not equal to support of their actions.
Actually, trying to understand why someone did something horrible so you can discover the reason why they did it, so that somehow it is excusable from the person's perspective who did it.
So what would be the goal then of trying to understand why terrorists are killing people? What is your definition of showing compassion for our enemies?
Edited, Fri Jun 24 16:38:14 2005 by PraetorianX
Quote:
Why is it that people like Durbin and others like him think they could even possibly fathom the culture of middle-eastern Islamic society.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Quote:
You forgot to mention which university you got your PhD in Middle Eastern Cultural Studies from.
Senator Durbin and others who presume to know so much about Islamic culture in the middle east never mentioned their PhD either Joph ^_^. Everything they say has a political purpose, some people actually think they care what they are talking about (haha).
Edited, Fri Jun 24 16:48:40 2005 by PraetorianX
PraetorianX wrote:
Quote:
Trying to understand someone is not equal to support of their actions.
Actually, trying to understand why someone did something horrible so you can discover the reason why they did it, so that somehow it is excusable from the person's perspective who did it.
So what would be the goal then of trying to understand why terrorists are killing people? What is your definition of showing compassion for our enemies?
Edited, Fri Jun 24 16:38:14 2005 by PraetorianX
This is possibly the most incoherent wash of sh[i][/i]it I've ever neglected to reread.
Do you prefer to remain in ignorance of the motives of your enemies? Is it your desire to give them that much of an advantage?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
LOL! We already know the motives of enemies, which is what I was getting at next, but you beat me to it. That is why it is curious to me as to why far left liberals try to understand an enemy who's motives we are already aware of.
No, actually, you don't.
Do you even know any Arabs that you haven't tried to shoot?
Do you even know any Arabs that you haven't tried to shoot?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Actually I do, and so do you. We all do. Islamic extremists that have committed themselves to terrorism hate cultures that don't outright support Islam and submission to it. They have taken extreme interpretations of the Quran that the infidel (us) should be killed. We can never appease this type of view, which is the liberal goal.
So how does this information that told you that you already know aid us in the fight of terrorism? Answer: it doesn't do anything to help us capture/kill the enemy faster.
So how does this information that told you that you already know aid us in the fight of terrorism? Answer: it doesn't do anything to help us capture/kill the enemy faster.
Psychiatric care?
Fu[/b]ck it. We should let Tom Cruise try and indoctrinate them into Scientology. They won't ever want to fu[/b]ck with us again.
Fu[/b]ck it. We should let Tom Cruise try and indoctrinate them into Scientology. They won't ever want to fu[/b]ck with us again.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
PraetorianX wrote:
Senator Durbin and others who presume to know so much about Islamic culture in the middle east never mentioned their PhD either Joph
* Technically, since he's privvy to reports and briefings you'll never see, I'd say he's considerably more qualified but we'll stick with this for now
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Stop feeding the troll!
Post something amusing then! 
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Post something amusing then!
Yeah! I don't want to talk to this idiot but no one else is talking at all.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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