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#1 Feb 23 2005 at 8:50 PM Rating: Default
http://www.janes.com/defence/news/fr/fr050221_1_n.shtml

I hereby declare that Canadians can no longer give us any shi[/u]t about our budget when their national defense rests next to entirely in our hands.
#2 Feb 23 2005 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
Canada has National Defense?

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#3 Feb 23 2005 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I always figured their hockey team seconded as their army.
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#4 Feb 23 2005 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
Umm... yes Canadians can continue to give you **** about your budget. Because the Candian budget is always in surplus, and yours is the biggest deficit in history. Not only does Canada maintain a surplus, but it also manages to give free health to its citizens, keep crime far lower than U.S. averages, and maintain its culling of dangerous baby seals.

And umm... just who are you suppose to be protecting Canada from? Unlike the U.S., everyone likes Canada. Actually, many think tanks have even labled the U.S. Canada's biggest potential threat in times to come. It's cos you'll want all the water and beaver.
#5 Feb 23 2005 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, I guess they always have the mounties.
#6 Feb 23 2005 at 9:18 PM Rating: Good
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All politics aside Canada only needs to maintain a military large enough to hold back an invasion long enough for the U.S. to get there. Most in the U.S. would whole-heartedly support a defensive war for Canada. We would never stand for an occupying force in Canada
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#7 Feb 23 2005 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
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All politics aside Canada only needs to maintain a military large enough to hold back an invasion long enough for the U.S. to get there. Most in the U.S. would whole-heartedly support a defensive war for Canada. We would never stand for an occupying force in Canada


I agree, the Canadians are our friends no matter what disagreement we have. It just seems pretty rude when they vote against things like missile defense when their defense really does rest in our hands. It's like a bird with a broken wing pecking at your hand even though you're trying to rehabilitate it.
#8 Feb 23 2005 at 9:20 PM Rating: Good
Far be it from me to badmouth the land of ice and trees both older and shorter than I, but it seems to me that the Canadian surplus has a LOT to do with leeching their economy off ours.

You should hear the crying every single time a tarrif or tax is put into place. It's worse than the coyotes.

Exactly what do they make up there? I mean, besides lots of noise aboot how great it is to have socialized health care and how we should listen to **** all the time from them but still treat them like US citizens as far as tariffs and such. Their quarters suck, too. If that's not a reason enough to do nasty things to them, Celine Dion should be enough to decide the matter.

It's not like we built a road across their country without asking or anything. What's all the fuss aboot?
#9 Feb 23 2005 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Umm... yes Canadians can continue to give you sh*t about your budget. Because the Candian budget is always in surplus, and yours is the biggest deficit in history. Not only does Canada maintain a surplus, but it also manages to give free health to its citizens, keep crime far lower than U.S. averages, and maintain its culling of dangerous baby seals.

And umm... just who are you suppose to be protecting Canada from? Unlike the U.S., everyone likes Canada. Actually, many think tanks have even labled the U.S. Canada's biggest potential threat in times to come.


Yes Yes. You are very right. and I do think we are Rome\Babylon\Atlantis incarnate.

However, I'm inclined to point out though that compareing the economies\deficit of the US and Canadia is like comparing an apple to a salad.

Take into account the populations, the ethnic diversities, the histories. All of this has a grand effect on the nature of the thing.

The problem is that America isn't happen sitting still. It's like a hyper-active child at the moment while Canada acts like the proper older brother. The more **** we get ourselves into the more tangled we get.


but I'm sayin', don't you think this wouldn't have happened if Canadia didn't want to look good in the eyes of the World?



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It's cos you'll want all the water and beaver.


dude, are you Japanese or waht?

Edited, Wed Feb 23 21:26:15 2005 by Kelvyquayo
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#10 Feb 23 2005 at 9:35 PM Rating: Good
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It just seems pretty rude when they vote against things like missile defense when their defense really does rest in our hands.

I think Canada's main defense system is that they don't do stuff that pisses off the rest of the world.

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It's like a bird with a broken wing pecking at your hand even though you're trying to rehabilitate it.

Maybe they don't want to be remade in America's image.


#11 Feb 23 2005 at 9:41 PM Rating: Default
What, you think I'm Japanese just because I have a penchant for beaver? When will you ignorant round eyes ever learn to stop stereotyping? LOL!


Edited, Wed Feb 23 21:49:11 2005 by PooShooter
#12 Feb 23 2005 at 9:44 PM Rating: Decent
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waht the fu[b][/b]ck do beavers have to do with a japanese stereotype?

Maybe I was refering to the oddness of the statement and insinuating that he was in fact from Japan in Tokyo, as his "location" say.

and you people sure build better railroads than quote somthing in a post.


eat a dog.




(and I wasn't aware that you and He were the same person, you're probably some anime-freaks sock)

Edited, Wed Feb 23 21:51:41 2005 by Kelvyquayo
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#13 Feb 23 2005 at 9:50 PM Rating: Good
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Do we really have all that different of an image now? The most significant differences I've noticed driving from Michigan to Canada is that I have to switch to the little orange numbers on my speedometer and that the tax rate is like 248%

Edited, Wed Feb 23 21:54:09 2005 by xythex
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#14 Feb 23 2005 at 9:51 PM Rating: Default
It's interesting that you seem to think that only Western countries can be multi-cultural. Yes, he says he lives in Japan so he must be Japanese. I'm in Beijing so i must be Chinese huh? I must be albino. Tool!
#15 Feb 23 2005 at 9:58 PM Rating: Decent
I kinda wish America and China got along better. But history has taught us that we usually get thanked with bullets for our business and money.
#16 Feb 23 2005 at 10:01 PM Rating: Default
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I kinda wish America and China got along better. But history has taught us that we usually get thanked with bullets for our business and money.

Dude! I'd really would like to have an intelligent debate with you. No seriously I really would! But what the **** are you talking about? What history books are you reading?
#17 Feb 23 2005 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
Okay well, maybe I did jump to a conclusion based on one instance. Remember that 80% of Japan's raw materials came from America before WW2.

Okay I'll give that one to ya. Let's wipe the slate clean and have that debate.
#18 Feb 23 2005 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
I'd rather have defense than free healthcare....

More power to your healthcare, now us Americans can exploit it. Oh wait, we already do!

Let's not forget the Canadian Army!! Oh noes! Mounties on fu*king horses coming straight for us like it's 1864! Holy ****?! What are your Mounties carrying for firearms these days? Zipguns?

Seriously, congratulations on your fu*king free health care but I don't give a ****. Canadians always throw that fu*king ******** in our faces but you know what? At least our military isn't going bankrupt. What about your taxes paid to pay for the healthcare? I'd rather have military intelligence (yes, there, I said it) out there than free fu*king healthcare. What are you going to do if a terrorist comes over to your house with a bomb strapped to his back? Offer him some free painkillers? "They're free Mr. Terrorist! You can now live and be happy! They will kill your pain!"

Fu*k that ****.
#19 Feb 23 2005 at 10:26 PM Rating: Good
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It just seems pretty rude when they vote against things like missile defense when their defense really does rest in our hands.

I think Canada's main defense system is that they don't do stuff that pisses off the rest of the world.


Lol. Because that method of defense has proven so historically successful...

Look. Canada does not have to spend that much on defense exactly because the US is right next door and they know we'll protect them. If you relocated Canada to say Eastern Europe, you can bet your *** they'd have to spend money on defense.
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#21 Feb 23 2005 at 10:28 PM Rating: Decent
Indeed, I would much rather be able to defend myself than gaurantee everyone who smokes cigarettes and dope can leech off my tax money. Eff that! And judging from the fact that we earn more on average than a canadian we can afford our health care.
#23 Feb 23 2005 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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It's interesting that you seem to think that only Western countries can be multi-cultural. Yes, he says he lives in Japan so he must be Japanese. I'm in Beijing so i must be Chinese huh? I must be albino. Tool!


And if you look at another one of my recent posts, you'd find that I comare US to China in the light of both of them being multi-cultural, and also if you weren't so bent on simple trolling, you'd acknowlegde the sarcasm of my other statements. Now go shoe your wife.
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#24 Feb 23 2005 at 10:57 PM Rating: Decent
I'd like to also add that my history books aren't state controlled. Much less the books I can buy from Barnes& Noble.
#25 Feb 23 2005 at 11:28 PM Rating: Decent
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From the Canadian side of the border...

We do acknowledge the fact that the US army would come over to cover our asses if anyone attacked Canada, but why would anyone attack Canada? No country really holds a grudge against us, and if they hate us, chances are they really hate the US.

No one would declare war on Canada (or France, or Spain, well the EU block) because in a world where alliances are clearly shown, only a madman would attempt to attack a EU country.

Anyways back to the point... Today's Federal Budget granted 5000 more troops, salary raises for the personnel and some new nifty gadgets to use. Its the biggest increase in military spendings in the last 20 years (although half of those were spent slashing the Defense budget) We just need to stay up to date in equipment, which we have failed to do, the Chicoutimi (aka subamrine who doesnt sink, can barely float) and our marvelous sea kings, which proved so worthy..... 40 years ago.

We are not interested in waging war, just helping others out, we cant afford to wage war anyways, with only a population of 30 million, we cant put the numbers behind. More population = growth in GDP that is exponential not proportional.... China is porving this lately. This is usually true, except in a few cases where all the growth has been sucked up by a too large population increase.

Like I said we lack numbers, we gonna add 5000 new troops, and thats big, the US army recruits around 90000 men a year, on a normal years if im not mistaken, for a population ten times our size recruiting 16 times more than our extraordinary measure... (the Canadian military total soldiers is around 60000-65000, and was at 90000 during the Gulf War era)

But then again, we still can give you advice about your budget. Your economy is vastly more weighty than ours in the world scale, yet you produce a deficit that is not even "real". Such vast sums of money could lead to bankruptcy across, well 99% of the countries. We learned sane management, we preserve our way of living, free healthcare, education (to some extent), and a bunch of other things. But thats how we choose to live, Americans have a way of life too, but right now that way of life is not being managed well, sorry to say this but Mankiw is not a economist or a trustworthy source of economic knowledge, hes a politician now, and he does what he must to stay in power. He used to have good ideas, now he uses his status to manipulate things to cover up a bit.

Being in a deficit may be fun, but one day those 400 billion deficits will come back.... Keep that in mind, were already paying here in Canada for the fun times of past generations (praise the almighty Olympic Stadium of Montreal! huzzah!) And a bunch of other things ^^

Well have a good night, and dont listen to Mankiw, hes biased.
#26 Feb 23 2005 at 11:37 PM Rating: Default
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I'm Canadian and am terrified by the fact that my country has no defence and has to depend on that jackass George W. for protection. But a crappy military is just the tip of the iceberg of my country's political woes. The freaking liberal party has been in power for almost 12 years and have completely screwed over the citizenry. Lemme start, there's Jean Chretian, the Ad Scandal, jean Chretian, the gun registry, health care tax hikes in ontario and oh ya, jean chretien!!!! my country blows ><
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