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Im going to be building a new machine here in a week or so and my money is sorta tight. So im going to start with this setup and build upon it.
Any ideas on what I would need, its been like four years since I built my last computer so im a little behind in the times.
Once again Im sort of short on cash so this will be an ongoing project.
I wanna be able to at least run Wow and some others if I can.
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I tend to stay away from integrated graphics in motherboards...even if it gives you the AGP alternative.
Care if I recommend something else?
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Integrated VIA high performance graphics controller plus AGP 8X slot
I tend to stay away from integrated graphics in motherboards...even if it gives you the AGP alternative.
Care if I recommend something else?
Make sure you get a video card that can handle high resolution. Wouldn't want all that **** to start skipping and jumping; that would ruin the experience.
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Yeah, stay away from integrated anything, especially video. I've had a lot of cases where trying to disable integrated components causes problems with IRQs and ports, etc. But I haven't used anything integrated in awhile, so those kind of issues may not happen anymore.
If you're goign to be playing games on it, you will definately need more than 256MB RAM. Yeah, you're on a budget, but this should definately be the first thing to work on. Also get the specs on that video; it may be a mobile video that shares system RAM like laptop video.
If you're goign to be playing games on it, you will definately need more than 256MB RAM. Yeah, you're on a budget, but this should definately be the first thing to work on. Also get the specs on that video; it may be a mobile video that shares system RAM like laptop video.
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Well the first thing Ill be looking at is a Video card.
Is there one that anyone can suggest?
Also for an additional $35 I can upgrade the ram to 512 MB. I am also reading up on the Athalon Semplon series as I do not have much knowledge on this processor.
Does anyone have experience with this CPU in terms of hard gaming and such?
I looked at this setup simply as a foundation for a much broader system.
If anyone can suggest a better Motherboard + CPU setup that isnt going to break me then by all means.
Is there one that anyone can suggest?
Also for an additional $35 I can upgrade the ram to 512 MB. I am also reading up on the Athalon Semplon series as I do not have much knowledge on this processor.
Does anyone have experience with this CPU in terms of hard gaming and such?
I looked at this setup simply as a foundation for a much broader system.
If anyone can suggest a better Motherboard + CPU setup that isnt going to break me then by all means.
Basic advice for the moment:
Get a hard rive with at least the 8mb cache. It pays off in performance big time.
As stated and emphasized previously, integrated components don't contribute much to upgradability in most cases, especially the video. I'll further elaborate that in most cases, integrated components other than video will meet the basic needs for most users these days.
A real sound card is a HUGE improvement over integrated sound, but the integrated one will do ya until you get freeflowing cash. Unless you're an audiophile, you may not even know what you're missing out on utnil you hear a real sound card. Get integrated sound for now.
Integrated LAN seems to be just about as good as a card. I can't tell the difference for gaming purposes.
Get 1gb of memory as soon as you can afford it. 512 mb until then. More than 1gb doesn't offer much improvement in performance.
I'd probably say go with an FX5700 video card with 256mb of memory for around a hundred bucks. ATI video cards are cheaper and may offer more bang for your buck, but I'm an Nvidia adherant.
Processor-wise you get more bang for your buck with AMD than intel. If you're thinking about going cheap then get an Athlon XP of whatever speed suits your budget.
The mobo depends on which processor you're getting. ASrock is the Asus inexpensive line, but I prefer Abit or Soyo these days.
Newegg.com is a pretty decent place to buy online. They're honest and state right up front the terms on each item. Their RMA process is also good. I've built several computers with components bought through them and have no complaints yet.
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Get a hard rive with at least the 8mb cache. It pays off in performance big time.
As stated and emphasized previously, integrated components don't contribute much to upgradability in most cases, especially the video. I'll further elaborate that in most cases, integrated components other than video will meet the basic needs for most users these days.
A real sound card is a HUGE improvement over integrated sound, but the integrated one will do ya until you get freeflowing cash. Unless you're an audiophile, you may not even know what you're missing out on utnil you hear a real sound card. Get integrated sound for now.
Integrated LAN seems to be just about as good as a card. I can't tell the difference for gaming purposes.
Get 1gb of memory as soon as you can afford it. 512 mb until then. More than 1gb doesn't offer much improvement in performance.
I'd probably say go with an FX5700 video card with 256mb of memory for around a hundred bucks. ATI video cards are cheaper and may offer more bang for your buck, but I'm an Nvidia adherant.
Processor-wise you get more bang for your buck with AMD than intel. If you're thinking about going cheap then get an Athlon XP of whatever speed suits your budget.
The mobo depends on which processor you're getting. ASrock is the Asus inexpensive line, but I prefer Abit or Soyo these days.
Newegg.com is a pretty decent place to buy online. They're honest and state right up front the terms on each item. Their RMA process is also good. I've built several computers with components bought through them and have no complaints yet.
FedEx shipping > UPS.
Keep in mind the CPU and Motherboard are the core elements of your system. Everythign else is secondary to the motherboard, so it pays to invest in a good one. Avoid integrated motherboard video like the plague.
For AMD, you should be able to find a decent board in that price range. Try to get one that has 3 ram slots opposed to 2, (or 4 if you can find one in your price range), and try to get DDR 3200 ram. it will make a noticable difference in game play.
For AMD, you should be able to find a decent board in that price range. Try to get one that has 3 ram slots opposed to 2, (or 4 if you can find one in your price range), and try to get DDR 3200 ram. it will make a noticable difference in game play.
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Agreed, spend your money on the basics and plan to add frills as you can afford it.
WoW will run on just about anything, from what I've seen. Compared to EQ and EQ2 it's very undemanding.
WoW will run on just about anything, from what I've seen. Compared to EQ and EQ2 it's very undemanding.
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Could you give some ideas on boards?
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You may want to think about this one:
http://legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=116
ABIT AV8 - Socket 939
it's got 8x AGP, 4 DDR 400 (PC 3200) ram slots, IDE and SATA connectors so you will be able to upgrade to faster and larger hard drives in the future, or use your existing drives, and finding a processor shouldn't be too bad at all. You can get by on a generic 350 watt power supply (~$20?) until you are ready to go to something bigger. A case, you can go generic, or something spiffy. Just make sure you put enough fans in it. A DvD burner/ CD burner these days runs literally $35-65, depending on when you buy them, or your existing drives will work fine.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1221575&CatId=1683
My advice would be to hold off on the upgrade for another pay period and get some funds to get the above or similar bareboes kit. For your additional $200, you will get a much better overall system that will last you at least a year longer than that other one easily.
http://legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=116
ABIT AV8 - Socket 939
it's got 8x AGP, 4 DDR 400 (PC 3200) ram slots, IDE and SATA connectors so you will be able to upgrade to faster and larger hard drives in the future, or use your existing drives, and finding a processor shouldn't be too bad at all. You can get by on a generic 350 watt power supply (~$20?) until you are ready to go to something bigger. A case, you can go generic, or something spiffy. Just make sure you put enough fans in it. A DvD burner/ CD burner these days runs literally $35-65, depending on when you buy them, or your existing drives will work fine.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1221575&CatId=1683
My advice would be to hold off on the upgrade for another pay period and get some funds to get the above or similar bareboes kit. For your additional $200, you will get a much better overall system that will last you at least a year longer than that other one easily.
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I was looking at this, a little more pricy but looks like a much better deal for a longer lasting system
But now that I look at your second link Im liking that a lot. Thanks Kao
Edited, Fri Feb 18 21:38:58 2005 by Zadiel
I was looking at this, a little more pricy but looks like a much better deal for a longer lasting system
But now that I look at your second link Im liking that a lot. Thanks Kao
Edited, Fri Feb 18 21:38:58 2005 by Zadiel
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