when you find one,.....
go to Kelly Blue Book, kbb.com i think. look up the car you want. add the destination charges, and whatever options you want and you can see the dealer cost.
then add 1000, to 1500 to that price and you will have what the dealer will take for the vehical.
then, go to the manufacturers web site and look for any dealer discounts. subtract that from the price.
write that price down on a card with your name and phone number. walk into the dealership. hand it to a sales man, and tell him, this is what you are paying for that vehical with those option. tell him you are on your way to another delaership tomake them the same offer, and he has untill you get there to decide if you are buying it from him, or them, and walk out.
when his mouth opens, tell him you cant stay, and give you a call if he can meet THAT price, and keep walking.
i recently purchased a vehical from chevy with a sticker price of 37,000 dollars for 29,000 dollars, tax tag and title out the door. spent a total of mabe 20 minutes all together. once to drop the price on him. once to sign the paper work to order it from the factory, and once to pick it up.
KNOW what the dealer will take for it before you walk in the door. DO NOT sit there for hours while he "negotiates" a price for you. kelly blue book is your friend. use it. other wise, you will end up like a friend at work. he purchsed a PT Cruser when they first came out for 26,000 dollars fully loaded. the very next year, the price droped to 16,000 dollars. he owed more money on his used vehical after 2 years of payments than a brand new one would cost him. the dealer OWNED his ignorant *****
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about dalmer chrysler. DO NOT BUY ANYTHING THEY SELL.
my experience with a brand new minivan 4 years ago.
1. my car just died in the middle of a busy 4 lane high way. seems they have a system to save their computer that shuts down the electrical system if there is any voltage irregularities to keep from damaging the computer. meanwhile, your stupid butt is coasting to a stop with no break lights, no emergancy flashers, praying no one slams into you at 60 MPH.
turns out it was a bad battery. i can start my chevy, take the battery out and drive it home. with a dodge, you are SCREWED. even if you get a jump, if it doesnt put out exactly a certain amount of voltagge, the entire system shuts down no matter where you are at the time. they replaced the battery. the towing came out of my pocket because i ddint use their towing person. never mind they were closed at the time.
2. at 24,000 miles, i had total break failure. the service guy said "that is normal." ROFL. then said breaks are not covered. dodge wanted 600 dollars to fix the breaks on a 2 year old truck still covered with a bumper to bumper warentee.
i took it across the street to a brake place and had it done for 250 dollars. turns out, the caliper was bad which caused the breaks to go bad. i saved the parts and took them to the didge dealer. he said "how do i know that caliper came off our truck?"
i showed him the part number, and sure enough, it was only "1" number off from teh good one still onteh truck. neaming it came off the assembly line immediatly after the other part did, and was used ont eh same truck, or the one right after it. he gave me another caliper and said "have a nice day". sooo, now im sitting with an ugly paper weight on my desk to remind me to NEVER buy another dodge.
3. the clear coat on the rear hatch was bubbling up. 5 year paint warentee, right? i took it to the dealer and showed him. he said it would cost 300 dollars to repair. i showed him the warentee where it mentioned the paint. 5 years. he said "the warentee covers the paint, not the protective coating" i called their corperate headquarters. they said the same thing.
4. the airconditioning button was sticking down when it was hot outside. i took it in. still under warentee. the deale said "you must have spilled a drink or something on the button, customer abuse is not covered, you will have to pay" again called their headquarters. again they backed up the dealer. fixed it myself. there was a rubber o-ring on the button. replaced it with a plastic one that would not SWELL up when it got hot.
5. the base on my passenger seat was rusting pretty bad at only 2 years old. 5 year rust through warentee, good as gold, right? the dealer said, "the rust through warentee only applies of there is an actual hole, and the warentee only covers the hole. there was no hole, come back if it actually rusts al the way through and we will fix the hole".
after 2 years of driving their brand new vehical, i spent over 1,100 dollars out of my pocket for towing and repairs. and spent a whopping 9 days total inthe shop. toyed with doing the lemon law thing, but decided to just trade it in....for a chevy.
their warentee is not worth the paper it is written on. their product is poorly constructed. its all shinny and cool looking on the outside, but it is rotten to the core on the inside.
i have had my chevy truck for 2 years now with close to 34,000 miles on it. my warentee will expire in 2 thousand miles. i have not put a single dime into repairs, it has never been towed. the only thing i have done is put oil in it every 5000 miles.
i just bought my wife one just like it.
i will NEVER EVER purchase another dalmher chrysler product again in my life, and neither will anyone on my immediate family. EVER. i have owned many new vehicals and NEVER been treated so poorly. i remember my first nissan truck. i blew the tire out the first day i bought it and bent the rim hobbeling to hte sholder to change it. i went back to the dealer to buy a new rim for my brand new truck. the delaer changed the rim and tire out at no charge and said "have a nice day".
you buy a new dodge, you buy it "AS-IS". buyer beware.
