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#1 Feb 12 2005 at 5:32 AM Rating: Excellent
I figure, since I regularly get on here when I'm intoxicated and share the details of my fu[/b]cked-up life to the uncaring masses, I might as well make this a weekly institution.

I know most of you know what's been going on, but we've got a lot of newbies, so I'll recap things briefly to catch everyone up, so you can all play along and make fun of me equally.

I'm 26 years old, and I was born in Florida USA. About four years ago, I met my current boyfriend Max, and we began dating as best we could despite the distance between us (Max is from New Zealand). Well, two years ago I finally had saved up enough money to move over, and so as of the end of this month I will have been here for exactly two years.

In the beginning, things were wonderful. I was happier than I had ever been in my (mostly painful) adult life. I was living in the most amazing, beautiful country on earth and I had the most amazing, beautiful boyfriend I could imagine.

There were problems, though. Max is intensely private and has self-defense mechanisms and emotional walls that would make Freud ****** in his grave. But I dealt with that by making friends and filling my life with other people. I didn't have that completely open connection with Max, but he loved me and I loved him, so I dealt.

One of the first people I met when I came here was my friend Tim, who ended up being the best friend I've ever had. Tim was in a very bad relationship and was very lonely, and so we built an intense and powerful bond. Eventually, we fell in love with each other, partially due to us giving each other what we weren't getting from our respective relationships, and partly because of the amount of things we have in common.

Max knew about my feelings for Tim, but he didn't object in the slightest. He didn't mind if Tim and I went out together or fu[/b]cked on the couch, whatever. From the beginning Max had wanted an "open relationship", so he had no problems with my relationship with Tim at all.

But around Christmas, Tim started dating someone new, and he became distant. He no longer needed a "surrogate relationship" anymore, and he wanted to devote his energy and his emotions to his new relationship, which was very understandable but also very painful for me as I lost the emotional crutch I'd been leaning on for nearly two years. My life went into a complete tailspin and I began to feel cut-off and disconnected from life and from the rest of the world.

So, around New Years, I went slightly mad. I think I had a bit of a nervous breakdown, and I felt more lonely and isolated than I ever have in my life. I was depressed to the point of suicidal thoughts, and I told Max everything. I told him what has been bothering me for the last two years. I told him about the loneliness, and about how I had coped with it by "bonding" with Tim in the way I did. I told him about how I feel he's incapable of change, and I told him that I'd been telling him for two years that I was lonely and needing emotional support from him but that I didn't get it.

Since that time, Max and I have been re-evaluating our relationship to find out where we're going to go from here. Neither of us wants to break up, but there are some dangerous and fundimental issues in our relationship that we can't seem to get past. First and foremost is his emotional distance. I CAN'T have walls in my relationship... loneliness is my deepest phobia. I've spent most of my life alone, and I can't do it anymore. Another issue is his... tendancy... to hit on anything and everything with a ***** except me. We haven't had any sort of sex since August, and he can't explain why. He says he's attracted to me, but it's like he's afraid to make himself vulnerable in any way (sexually, emotionally, socially) by letting down his defenses with me.

Even though I told him all of this, and even though he doesn't want to lose me, nothing has changed. He's still hitting on and ******** around with anyone he can (including some 17 year-old bimbo who's soon to be moving in with us because he has "a bad home life"). It feels like he opens up to everyone but me, and I can't have that anymore.

So, I want to break up with him. But I'm scared. This is the first relationship I've ever been in where I was really treated well and looked after. He definitely loves me, and he would walk through fire to provide me with anything I want, but emotionally he's off-limits. I want to leave, but I don't want to give up the life I have here and I don't want to give up on this relationship if there's any chance of it working.

But, to compound the issue, a very old and very dear friend who I've known for YEARS longer than I've known anyone else, has begun to express interest in me. And to be honest, I've always really liked him, but I always thought I never stood a chance. He's cute, he's successful, he's popular, and he could have his choice of anyone he wants. And for some reason, he wants me.

So, Justin and I have been talking for hours, night after night, for months. We use one of those free internet voicechat thingies, and we can just happily sit here talking about anything until the sun comes up. And those feelings I used to have for him but buried seem to be resurfacing.

So, I guess I just don't know what to do. I'm at the deepest emotional crisis I've ever experienced in my life. I feel like I'm being pulled in two different directions and neither one is clearly the "right" one. If I move home, I give up on any chance Max and I have to make the relationship work, and I DO still love him. I give up on my life here in this country I adore, I give up on my friends and those bonds I've formed with them. (Hell, I even give up on my PS2 and all my games since the bleeding thing is PAL. >_<) And I end up hurting the one person who's ever truly cared about me, the only person I've ever been with who truly loved me.

On the other hand, if I do leave, I can go home and be MUCH closer to my family (Justin lives in Georgia, my family lives in Florida). I can go back to a life free of legal nightmares and immigration appeals and temporary work visas. I can go back to a place where my accent doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. And, perhaps most importantly, I can go back and try to build a life with someone new, someone I care very deeply for and have loved for a very long time, someone who shares my need for emotional bonds and for love and for romance.

I dunno if you guys care, I dunno if you have any insights to share, but if you do I welcome any input. This is the most difficult decision I've ever faced, and after nearly two months of dwelling on it I'm no closer to an answer. I can't take much more of this strain and stress. The problem isn't going to fix itself, yet I seem to be incapable of making a decision. So, I welcome flames and GFYs and ridicule and input and personal stories and words of encouragement, anything you can give me. I'm desperate enough I'm begging for help in the Asylum. Hopefully that serves to express how serious this is to me.

(A six-pack of Speight's Old Dark Ale and not one single typo, go me. Smiley: tongue)
#2 Feb 12 2005 at 5:37 AM Rating: Excellent
I can relate to this more than you might realize. Except for the moving to New Zealand bit. You're braver than I am.

It sounds like a frustrating and emotionally charged situation. In the end, you have to really think about what is right for you, and go with what you need, and what you believe in, not just what you want. Change is difficult, absolutely. But sometimes it's necessary in order to improve your quality of life.

Sorry if that doesn't make any sense. I would go more into my situation to let you know just how much I can comiserate, but I don't know that the Asylum is the place for that.

I'll be thinking about you, regardless. Smiley: smile
#3 Feb 12 2005 at 6:02 AM Rating: Good
It sounds like you know what you want in your life. It seems your main problem is feeling obligated to stay with someone who cannot return the love you need and crave. You must sit down and talk with your room mate/ part time boy friend and find out where you stand and if he and you might seek counseling to get past this emotional wall. Do you love him or are you just comfortable with the life style you are in right now? Can you live without having that emotional bond you need? Can you live with an "Open" relationship? Dont make sacrifices in your happiness.
#4 Feb 12 2005 at 6:22 AM Rating: Good
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The whole tale makes things sound as though your is a bit too amiable when it comes to his boyfriends and kinda needs to find someone you can like without feeling like your stressing yourself out(even if it means being single for awhile and going to bed with a battery powered pal a for more than a few nights).
#5 Feb 12 2005 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
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Stand up and do your thing.. Sort it out and move on.. Life's to short to waste on painful situations.. Besides Self confidence is sexy! Gay, straight, or both..
#6 Feb 12 2005 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
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It almost sounds like you've made your decision. But change is never easy.

Staying with Max is easier. You know him, he's familiar, you love where you live... yadda yadda yadda.

It may be time to make another "leap of faith", as hard as that sounds.

Besides, I'm in TN, so we can really have a hot tub party. Smiley: grin
#7 Feb 12 2005 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
This is a no brainer. Pick your *** up and head to GA. If it doesn't work at all, Max will still be there in the same state he is now.

I know that's not the most sensitive means of appraisal, but that doesn't change the truth behind it.
#8 Feb 12 2005 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
Sabo..Kiss Max Good Bye, and venture out into new horizons. You have outgrown him, and it is just comfort that makes you so reluctant to move on!
The best part of life is coming, and I don't want you to waste it!
#9 Feb 12 2005 at 11:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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Redyne wrote:
The best part of life is coming


AMEN! (oops did I type that on the internet?)

ROFL

On a more serious note...

Yanno Sab, you could move home to FL and be on your own awhile while you work on the new relationship in GA. That way, if the one in GA fails, you are still on your own - knowing you can do it alone. I could go on and on, but I bet you know what I mean.

Edit: can't even do a quote properly!

Edited, Sat Feb 12 11:11:13 2005 by Darkflame
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#10 Feb 12 2005 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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DF is right. Living alone is da bomb, baby. After I split with my ex, I lived alone (well, my son lived with me) for 4 years. And before I got with him, I had lived alone for 2 years. I highly recommend it. You truly learn a lot about yourself when you realize you really have no one to depend on but yourself.
#11 Feb 12 2005 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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This sounds like it could be from a soap opera called "Gays of Our Lives".
#12 Feb 12 2005 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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Don't usually post here, but I really respect your posts and I understand (kinda) what you're going through. Were I in your shoes, I would leave. Move back home, start seeing Justin, and try to find some happiness. From your posts you sound like you are a very upbeat and wonderful person, and I'd hate to see a light like yours get squashed by someone who doesn't (or can't) appreciate you.

Best wishes, and good luck.


/edit- spelling?

Edited, Sat Feb 12 13:31:29 2005 by AsuranConvict
#13 Feb 12 2005 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
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dump the *****
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#14 Feb 12 2005 at 3:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Georgia, Georgia, the whole day through
Just an old sweet song keeps Georgia on my mind.
Georgia, Georgia, a song of you
Comes as sweet and clear as moonlight through the pines.

Other arms reach out to me
Other eyes smile tenderly
Still in peaceful dreams I see
The road leads back to you.

Georgia, Georgia, no peace I find
Just an old sweet song keeps Georgia on my mind.

Melodies bring memories
That linger in my heart
Make me think of Georgia
Why did we ever part?

Some sweet day when blossoms fall
And all the world's a song
I'll go back to Georgia
'Cause that's where I belong
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#15 Feb 12 2005 at 3:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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As has been said here, your mind's made up; just your heart fu[/i]cking you about.

It's like a curate's egg; 'good in parts'. An egg is either good or bad. If part of a relationship's sh[i]
ite, it's time to move on.

Pack your bags, and go to USA; not for Justin. . . for you.

And good luck.
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#16 Feb 12 2005 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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If you're not happy, I say pack up and move back stateside. (No sex for 6 months?!?! Run while you still can) I mean, what do you have to lose if you leave? If you have feelings for Justin, you both deserve to give it a try. Otherwise you'll always wonder what could have been. Of course it's going to be difficult leaving, but you're going to be hurting yourself in the long run if you stay.


p.s.- Rate up for a completely coherent drunk post, devoid of typos!
#17 Feb 12 2005 at 3:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Nobby wrote:


It's like a curate's egg; 'good in parts'. An egg is either good or bad.


druid talk!
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#18 Feb 12 2005 at 3:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Perhaps the phrase isn't used widely outside of UK. It refers to a famous cartoon in Punch magazine from the mid 1890s
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#19 Feb 12 2005 at 4:10 PM Rating: Good
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I can't say anything everyone else has said, but to back them up, it definitely sounds like you know what you want and need, you're just afraid to take the leap.

It's easy for us to tell you to take the leap. We don't have to worry about the consequences. But I think if you can ***** up enough courage, taking that leap may end up being the most important and hopefully happiest decision you can make with your life.

Life is too short to stay with someone just because ultimately you are comfortable with them. You may love Max, and he you, but he is not giving you the love you need and deserve. If you are not happy enough in the relationship you're not going to be. So do you want to hold onto him like a security blanket or do you want to see how strong aperson you really can be by letting go. It will be harder then anything, but if you can do it, I have a feeling you'll be much happier.

Either way hugs to you Sabo.
#20 Feb 12 2005 at 7:57 PM Rating: Good
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Quote:
This sounds like it could be from a soap opera called "Gays of Our Lives".
You use this one every time you can, don't you?

Sabo, come on back. It probably wouldn't do you any harm to spend a couple months without a boyfriend. Give yourself some time to regain your emotional strength.
#21 Feb 12 2005 at 8:24 PM Rating: Good
Thanks for the encouragement and advice guys. I know this isn't a funny or entertaining or interesting thread, but I didn't have anywhere else to ask for advice. All of my friends know Max too and I don't want to make things uncomfortable for him. I'm definitely thinking I'm going to come back as soon as I can afford it. I think what I may do is come back for a nice loooong visit, and if I decide I'm happier there than here I'll stay. Plus, by the time I can afford a plane ticket I should have residency status here so I can come back whenever I please, for as long as I like.
#22 Feb 12 2005 at 8:39 PM Rating: Good
Sabo sweetie, there is no easy way to end a relationship. You just have to be honest with yourself. As you save for the ticket home, you can see more of NZ and explore some outside interests. If you are honest with Max, it doesn't have to be a miserable waiting period for either of you.
#23 Feb 12 2005 at 11:05 PM Rating: Good
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Sabo, the worst thing you can do for yourself is see things in your life in terms of someone else. If you move home, do it for yourself, so that you become a strong self-supporting person and so that your life has meaning independent of romance. That way when you meet someone, that person can be an asset (but not a necessity) to you.
#24 Feb 12 2005 at 11:15 PM Rating: Good
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What Flea said.






...and grow a backbone and stop acting like such a whinying little *****.
#26 Feb 13 2005 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
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"...including some 17 year-old bimbo..." --Saboruto

Wouldn't that actually be bimboy? Just sayin'.

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