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#1 Feb 08 2005 at 10:58 PM Rating: Good
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Have you ever seen these type of shows? I drive a tractor trailer and last week, found myself in the middle of a chase in Jersey City NJ.. At the time I had no idea what was going on.. The cops were in un marked cars and were pissing me off as I was trying to back in.. They finally just cut this guy into a fence and totalled his car.. When the guns came out I nearly ****..

At any rate, that got me to thinking. Why not have police operated kill switches installed on all new vehicles? Am I missing something? We have the technology.. GPS stuff such as OnStar or whatever they are calling it .. These types of chases would end for good.. Officer just runs the plate and whammo he can shut em down.. nobody gets hurt. guy just stops.. It would end those stupid shows too..
#3 Feb 09 2005 at 12:42 AM Rating: Decent
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While they could definitely help in some situations, I oppose things like this. Wrong hands, etc. Also, I am reminded of a quote, but I forget who said it: "Those who would give up some liberties for safety deserve neither safety nor liberty". America was founded to preserve liberty at great loss of life. Our legal system is set up to ideally keep all innocent people free at the possible expense of letting some guilty people go free (yes, I know it doesn't always work that way). To me, preserving as much freedom for all is essential, even if it makes law enforcement more difficult.
#4 Feb 09 2005 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good
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Lecan wrote:
While they could definitely help in some situations, I oppose things like this. Wrong hands, etc. Also, I am reminded of a quote, but I forget who said it: "Those who would give up some liberties for safety deserve neither safety nor liberty". America was founded to preserve liberty at great loss of life. Our legal system is set up to ideally keep all innocent people free at the possible expense of letting some guilty people go free (yes, I know it doesn't always work that way). To me, preserving as much freedom for all is essential, even if it makes law enforcement more difficult.


I spose ya got a valid point there .. I think I'd rather die free.. than live in fear..

I just feel that if a reliable system could be developed, we could eliminate a lot of innocent death .. Such as the basic family walking down the street, gets mowed down by a maniac on the run from the cops in his suv kinda thing..However if this technology were to somehow wind up in the wrong hands as you say.. Damn.... .. that WOULD bite..

Anyone know of a system like this currently in development?
#5 Feb 09 2005 at 7:25 AM Rating: Good
Well, one time I was driving around at about 4 in the morning, tired as hell on a road trip. I think it was in Calgary, but I honestly don't remember the city. I just know it was in Canada and the city had a perimeter type road that circled it to ease traffic during heavy hours. My brother was passed out over in the passenger seat and I was totally burned out from driving for long hours and looking for a hotel. Every place we'd found thus far was sold out due to some convention or another and I was down to just looking for anything.

So, as I made what seemed to be the umpteenth lap around the city on this deserted highway, I blinked and realized that a car was coming at me. "Whoa, I have got to get some rest," I thought as I moved out of the leftmost lane. I was driving in the left lane. I could have hit someone headon. Then, as a dozen or so police cars sped by with their bright blue strobes and sirens going it dawned on me that I was on a restricted access highway and that there wasn't supposed to be anyone driving towards me.

I didn't see or hear about the conclusion of the car chase, but I did find a hotel and sleep for a good eight hours. That's the only 'wild' chase I've been witness to.
#6 Feb 09 2005 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
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A technology like that would be to seductive not to crack. Imagine criminals or protesters being able to shut down an entire street, or city? Imagine your rushing someone to the hospital for a dire emergancy. You don't have time to stop and chat with the police to explain the situation. Far Far to dangerous a tool to be made so easy.

The technology is out there in limited form now. Some high risk car dealers are installing it on their cars. Don't make your payment, they shutdown the car, locate it via GPS, and pick it up.
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#7 Feb 09 2005 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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Lecan wrote:
Also, I am reminded of a quote, but I forget who said it: "Those who would give up some liberties for safety deserve neither safety nor liberty". America was founded to preserve liberty at great loss of life. Our legal system is set up to ideally keep all innocent people free at the possible expense of letting some guilty people go free (yes, I know it doesn't always work that way). To me, preserving as much freedom for all is essential, even if it makes law enforcement more difficult.

How does it infringe on your liberty?

Sure, if they use it all willy-nilly. But police already have guns they can use all willy-nilly.

If you don't stop for the police, you're breaking the law. That gives them the right to try to stop your car. No freedom-infringing going on there.


#8 Feb 09 2005 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Trickybeck wrote:

If you don't stop for the police, you're breaking the law. That gives them the right to try to stop your car. No freedom-infringing going on there.

The argument against this is not about them infringing on your rights if you are doing something illegal. My argument is, "If some one in a position of power is illegally harassing me I don't want them to have access to this."

The potential to hack this and use it immorally would be a problem.

Personally I prefer when the government has minimal involvement with my stuff. I think you should be able to elect to have this on your car, but I am hesitant to require it of anyone.
#9 Feb 09 2005 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
Ahhh Jersey Shi[b][/b]tty what a place!

Anywho, I have seen in several TV shows on TLC and Discovery Channel of little rocket propelled vehicles that are launched from under a cop car then under the perps car.

The "little" car has a long antenna that delivers an electrical shock to the engine frying the computer. Kind cool idea, it works just needs to be refined.

Edited, Wed Feb 9 12:00:18 2005 by Soracloud
#10 Feb 09 2005 at 3:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Why not have police operated kill switches installed on all new vehicles? Am I missing something?



Any such system would also be easily disabled.
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