Religon for the weak minded?Follow

Religion, logically speaking, is just that. However, there are things that logic can't explain.

As an athiest I tend to side with your professor and his wife. However, most religious people see it as much more.

Its one of those issues that there really is no way to solve.

I'm not an aethiest nor a tried and true church going christian. I have issues believing a book that is riddled with one-sidedness and the fact that most minsiters/preachers/etc only use it as a tool for personal gain.

Psychology is just a bored man's way of dealing with life, analyzing it past the point of relevance. That being said, for some people religion is a way to get through life, but that doesnt make them weak minded, some people just need something to believe in.

I believe your professor's view and his wife's is very narrow minded and are prob "elitist". They think others are inferior just because they share a differing view. (my view on the subject matter)

Dont get me wrong, psychology is a mind blowing science, I enjoyed the few classes I took in it, but professors of psychology usually have warped aspects on life.

Someone obviously doesn't like religous discussions? Or me calling people who believe in fluffy cloud men 'weak minded'.



Edited, Thu Feb 3 14:17:12 2005 by TheDave

You know what I hate more than a religious *** hole who tells me I am going to hell for not believing in what he does? An athiest *** hole who tells me I am weak and stupid if I don't believe in what he does.

I rated you up because you have a cool name and ******* about karma.


I can respect that.

you say this while in the same argument you say that even children find this concept understandable. ... ???

to me, you're just proving that the thought is childish.



what does the trancendance of time have to do with anything? just because something passes the tests of time does NOT give it validity.

OR, they find this inner power BECAUSE they are inherently stronger. OR, they have this inner power but it has nothing whatever to do with God, or divinity of any description. OR, they have both (faith in a God-creature and inner strength) but it's purely coincidental.

You have not established a causal relationship. Back to work, you.

The most powerful things in life do not need to be complicated. However, explaining them can be. Have you ever been asked "Why is the sky blue?" Try answering that in a way a small child or a ****** could understand. Now realize that if you are an "average" person, that 50% of all people are below average. The point is, not everyone is a Rhodes scholar, but you can still be empowered if you are given a way to understand. The concept that they need to understand is that there is a way to gain self-power. It does not matter if it comes from outside or inside, the fact remains that they can get it.



The point I am getting to here is each religion that still exists in this world including satanism and paganism provide a way to tap into this 'mysterious power'. Every religion calls it something else, but it all boils down to there is some sort of power you can 'call on' to get through life. That is why religion is genius, it is a way to teach people this, unfortunately there are so many other strings attached to each religion because of it's manipulation over time that the true meaning has been all but obscured.

I'm more of an agnostic really, I don't know exactly how I feel about the whole God issue. I've never been touched by God or seen anything to sway me either way but i'm keeping my options open just in case Jesus decides to pop back for another spin.

A slight hijack of my own thread here but anyone ever heard of the Ontological argument for the existence of God? Which basically states that :-
'If we have an idea of God it is greater than something that we can imagine. If it exists in our mind anything that exists in reality is greater than the God in our minds because it exists, so we must believe that it exists in reality because it is the greatest thing imaginable.'

Also :-
'God is a perfect being, existence is requirement of perfection, hence God exists'

Bear in mind the original argument was intended to strengthen the beliefs of people who already believed in God and the definition of God as being a supremely perfect being. Not to prove the existence of God. Their is an argument by Dacarte supporting this idea but I can't remember it off the top of my head.

Also if you do believe in God, who believes in that definition of God? Because for the argument to work it requires people to accept that definiton but many people have different ideas about Gods existence and how to define his existence.

You know what I hate more than a religious *** hole who tells me I am going to hell for not believing in what he does or an athiest *** hole who tells me I am weak and stupid if I don't believe in what he does. An agnostic *** hole who wont make up his mind and acts as if he is better than the rest of us because of it.

Quoth Monty Python:

matter is energy.

In the universe, there are many energy fields which we cannot normally perceive.
Some energies have a spiritual source which act upon a person's soul.

However, this soul does not exist ab initio, as orthodox Christianity teaches. It has to be brought into existence by a process of guided self-observation.
However, this is rarely achieved, owing to man's unique ability to be distracted from spiritual matters by everyday trivia.


oh, and people aren't wearing enough hats..




NOw realllly think about the "Self Guided Obervation" thing... and then think about everything that you know about Perception, relativity, and Quantum Mechanics(oberseration effecting the oberved)

Edited, Thu Feb 3 15:01:25 2005 by Kelvyquayo

Shhh! The world tin-foil supply will suffer if the secret gets out.