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I'm holding you to that
Not going to debate most of the points you made, but this one is absolutely wrong:
If an employer openly fires you for being gay, you have the same legal recourse as if he'd fired you for being black. Not sure why you'd assume otherwise.
And if you created a will, you could state exactly what of your possessions go where. My issue here is that there is already an existing solution to this "problem". Why do you want the state to step in and give you rights you already possess?
I know we've had this discussion before on a number of "gay marriage" threads, but I'll repeat a bit. Every single significant legal right that a married couple has can be duplicated with existing legal documents available to gay couples. If you want to hate anyone for the fact that you don't currently possess that status with your SO, you need look no further then your own gay-rights activist groups who would rather spend their efforts forcing the government to change the definition of marriage, then to inform and make available to their own interest group all the legal rights they already possess.
You don't have the status you want purely because you are likely ignorant of where to go and what paperwork to fill out to obtain that status. The gay-rights movement makes an active effort *not* to inform gay couples of their full legal rights because if they did then many gay couples would already enjoy joint guardianship, and joint power of attorney, and joint inheritance, and they'd lose a lot of voices for their "cause". Your own activists keep you ignorant because it's better to keep you unhappy then actually solve your problems (from their point of view anyway). An unhappy gay person will march and protest. A happy one wont. It's a pretty simple and obvious equation.
Think about it.
Edited, Fri Jan 28 21:55:45 2005 by gbaji
ataglance wrote:
If my boss felt like it, just on a whim, regarldess of my job performance, he could walk up to me and say, "you're fired". i'd ask, "why?". he'd say "because you're gay" and there's NOTHING i can do about it. nothhhhing. nada. zilch. i'm out of a job. and my next job is going to call my old job and ask why i got fired.
If an employer openly fires you for being gay, you have the same legal recourse as if he'd fired you for being black. Not sure why you'd assume otherwise.
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and if (by the GRACE of God) all of my immediate family were to fall over dead, and then I fell over dead, my estate goes to the STATE, the freaking GOVERNMENT, but certainly not to the woman i've been living with for twenty years (well, i haven't been living with a woman for twenty years, but you get the point).
And if you created a will, you could state exactly what of your possessions go where. My issue here is that there is already an existing solution to this "problem". Why do you want the state to step in and give you rights you already possess?
I know we've had this discussion before on a number of "gay marriage" threads, but I'll repeat a bit. Every single significant legal right that a married couple has can be duplicated with existing legal documents available to gay couples. If you want to hate anyone for the fact that you don't currently possess that status with your SO, you need look no further then your own gay-rights activist groups who would rather spend their efforts forcing the government to change the definition of marriage, then to inform and make available to their own interest group all the legal rights they already possess.
You don't have the status you want purely because you are likely ignorant of where to go and what paperwork to fill out to obtain that status. The gay-rights movement makes an active effort *not* to inform gay couples of their full legal rights because if they did then many gay couples would already enjoy joint guardianship, and joint power of attorney, and joint inheritance, and they'd lose a lot of voices for their "cause". Your own activists keep you ignorant because it's better to keep you unhappy then actually solve your problems (from their point of view anyway). An unhappy gay person will march and protest. A happy one wont. It's a pretty simple and obvious equation.
Think about it.
Edited, Fri Jan 28 21:55:45 2005 by gbaji
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