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#1 Jan 25 2005 at 8:22 PM Rating: Good
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Yep. He's got kids. So I called him up to see what's up. He starts talking about how his boy took his first step or whatever, so I interrupt after a bit and change the subject. He starts asking me why I don't care about his family.

Now I like kids, they're fun to spin around in circles and send off through land fields, or if none are handy a nice cow pasture works. Preferably one filled with gopher holes. I'm sensitive guy and all. But let's face it. It's not like a kid hasn't taken his first step before. No records are being broken here, no "new territory" is being discovered. How come every parent treats these things as such a big deal? Don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question.

I guess I'm an ***. But I just can't get excited because someone's kid mumbled something that sounded like "da-da". Now if the kid grabs a guitar and starts playing solos from Led Zepplin or something, give me a buzz cause I want to see that sh[i][/i]it. And I'm glad he doesn't have a 3rd arm growing out of his *** or missing a couple vertebrae. So let's call it good.

Sorry, just a kid-less guy's point of view.

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#2 Jan 25 2005 at 8:26 PM Rating: Decent
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You're half right. Before I had my kid, I could care less about someone else's kid taking their first "whatever". After having one, you'll get a deeper appreciation for such stupid things in life. I'm happy (and proud) that my kid can walk and talk and begin to show signs that she is understanding what the hell grown-ups are talking about, but I try not to announce it to everyone in the world.
#3 Jan 25 2005 at 8:35 PM Rating: Good
It's just one of those things that happens. People expect others to share their sentiments, especially their friends. You and he probably think a LOT of the same things are cool and the fact that you weren't into what he was telling you about (and totally involved in) kinda gave hima jolt is all.

Either you'll stay friends or you won't. Don't sweat it.
#4 Jan 25 2005 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
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My 5yr started his first year at school, this week.

I'm a very proud Dad. Smiley: yippee

#5 Jan 25 2005 at 9:23 PM Rating: Good
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Best way to deal with us parents is to smile, give us a short "Congrats! That's great!", then you can quickly change the subject.

We're easily please and fooled, if we think that you actually thing, little Bob or Mary is the most amazing and special child, on the planet.

If we go for our "Kid's photos" in our wallet, then run...

Edited, Tue Jan 25 21:28:41 2005 by lagduff
#6 Jan 25 2005 at 9:26 PM Rating: Decent
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When you don't have kids, you could care less. I was the exact same. Yay, you're kid learned to walk. yay, you're kid learned to say mommy. Whoopdee fu[b][/b]cking doo.

It all changes when you have your own child. you watch this tiny being that you and your partner created and you can not believe that you got it right somehow.

Each time this little person does something new it's almost an acomplishment from yourself. You cant believe that your child is actually learning and you can watch it happen before your eyes.

Things like the first steps, first word, etc are major stepping stones to a childs development. And you're friend is so excited it is happening, all he is doing is sharing this excitement to you. We parents do sometimes forget that no one outside the family cares. We can't help it. We're just SO damn proud! I try very hard to not talk about my son or his proud moments outside the family, but every once in a blue moon I lapse.


I know you could care less, but another angle to look at this situation is that your friend is very happy right now, and all he is doing is trying to share that happiness with you. You know you dont get it, and a part of him knows that too. Just smile, nod, let it roll over you, no biggie. In time, when you have a child of your own, you will undoubtedly do the sam,e thing without even realizing it
#7 Jan 25 2005 at 10:12 PM Rating: Decent
I agree with you to a certain extent. For my sister's baby, I'm willing to hear about what color her spit-up was today.

For my friend's baby, I don't give a flying crap if she almost stood up and wet herself while eating a whole jar of creamed peaches for the 1st time.

Two of my friends who had their first child have become completely un-cool, constantly talking about the kid. It's depressing. To them, though, it's natural because having children is such a large responsibility (that I'm eons away from partaking in)

Sorry for the rant; I've had 2 Blue Moons on an empty stomach.
#8 Jan 25 2005 at 10:14 PM Rating: Good
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When you don't have kids, you could care less
Actually, I couldn't care less.

That's right, my level of caring has reached it's nadir. There is no lesser amount that I could care. (It's my pet peeve this week, sorry, LadyD) Smiley: wink

I'm happy for my friends when their kids give them joy, I really am. I feel bad that I don't want to hang out with my friend's toddlers. It gives me a headache. I'll admit it, trying to keep a 2 year old entertained is simply not enjoyable to me.

Give me a call when the kid is 8 and can keep themselves occupied while the grown ups talk.

I'm a bad, bad friend.
#9 Jan 25 2005 at 10:28 PM Rating: Decent
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That's right, my level of caring has reached it's nadir. There is no lesser amount that I could care. (It's my pet peeve this week, sorry, LadyD)

Smiley: lol you're right my bad. I am not all here and that slipped by me.

I was the exact same as you. Dont bother me with kids. I am not a kid person, and I still can not handle other peoples kids for more then an hour. When I have (sigh) playgroup, I start to get adgy after 30 minutes, and I actually fidget when an hours has gone by. If they dont leave my house within 90 minutes of being there, I start to yawn (yes, I am a *****) and make short replies to any question. They usually get the hint.
#10 Jan 25 2005 at 10:41 PM Rating: Good
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There is no requirement for you to sit through conversation that you have no interest in. You should probably let your friend know so he doesn't have the false impression that you care. However, if I was your friend I might seriously consider not taking your calls as often.
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#11 Jan 25 2005 at 11:04 PM Rating: Good
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When I have (sigh) playgroup, I start to get adgy after 30 minutes, and I actually fidget when an hours has gone by. If they dont leave my house within 90 minutes of being there, I start to yawn (yes, I am a *****) and make short replies to any question. They usually get the hint.
I'm taking lessons from you. All this time I've been faking polite interest and enthusiasm. What the hell was I thinking?
#12 Jan 26 2005 at 12:41 AM Rating: Good
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I'm not worried about him stayin pissed at me. We been buds for as long as we could talk. That's not an issue, and wasn't the point of my post. It was just a satirical comment on how people with kids get carried away talking about them, and people without kids usually aren't that interested. And yes, I exaggerated a bit for effect, and apparently offended someone. Smiley: lol

But yeah, on a serious note I imagine my views will change when I have kids. It's just a poke at the parents reading who go overboard when talking about their precious babies.
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#13 Jan 26 2005 at 12:50 AM Rating: Good
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Stop for a second and realize that in the "big picture," you're right. No new territory is being discovered by a child taking its first step... or is it?

That child has never taken a successful step before. The miracle alone of observing a living creature for the first time realize how to properly control their weight and balance, all while moving muscles in synchrony to keep from falling. You may not consider it amazing, but i do. But then again.. I'm an aspiring psychologist. Think about how complex the act of walking is before you shrug it off as "nothing new," and remember that all of these firsts may not be firsts to the rest of the world, but they are firsts for that child.

Maybe then you can appreciate that your friend is excited about his own child, instead of being cynical and angsty about it like some gothy high schooler :-P
#14 Jan 26 2005 at 6:01 AM Rating: Good
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I'm a mom, and I can't deal with other people's kids, either. But the worst (IMO) is grandparents.

I work with this older woman who insists on telling anyone in the office who will listen the little gem of wisdom that her granddaughter spouted. Every. Single. Day.

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#15 Jan 26 2005 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
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But the worst (IMO) is grandparents.


I hear you. You think parents are bad? Find someone who just became a grandmother for the first time. My mother is one of these. My son is her only grandchild and you would think my son was Jesus recome if you asked her. I can only pity those who work with her Friday mornings, as she babysits my son Thursday evenings. But then again, she works with a whole bunch of other grandmothers, so maybe it evens out Smiley: laugh.

And Yanaari, what were you thinking? Don't be polite. Thats only good for the first 5 minutes. After that who cares? It's your house. Seriously, go for the fidget/yawn/short answers and I garuntee you, your playgroups will cut back in time very quickly Smiley: grin
#16 Jan 26 2005 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have an aunty that is really REALLY bad with this. And her daughter is 19. When I sent out my birth story to my family she wrote back with one short paragraph of congratulations and then spent the rest of her e-mail filling me in on what my cousin was up to and what my cousin thought of my e-mail. She never stops talking about her daughter and when my mom started in on my baby she had the nerve to come tell me that my mom won't shut up about it.

Now I'm kinda worried that I do this in game though.. I usually try to stick to only saying things when people ask, but I do tend to announce funny things she does when she does them so I think I'll stop doing that now.
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#17 Jan 26 2005 at 10:03 PM Rating: Good
I can say with conviction I don't have much tolerance for small kids. Thier antics and actions annoy me, and I only pray I was not like the ones I have met.

Most parents don't seem to dicipline thier kids enough for my taste. No running and screaming and yelling, no hitting the parents friends, and other assorted things I have witnessed or had done to me by my friends kids.

Children should be seen, and not heard when company is around is an old axiom I am fond of.

I don't intend to have any kids and if I do, I will pay child support for the honor of not having to take care of the kid.

#18 Jan 26 2005 at 10:11 PM Rating: Good
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Most parents don't seem to dicipline thier kids enough for my taste. No running and screaming and yelling, no hitting the parents friends, and other assorted things I have witnessed or had done to me by my friends kids.


I plan to keep my kids under control by having This Guy fly by in a copter and fire tranq darts into their hind quarters. Yours too, if they run with my herd.
#19 Jan 26 2005 at 10:18 PM Rating: Good
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When you don't have kids, you could care less. I was the exact same. Yay, you're kid learned to walk. yay, you're kid learned to say mommy. Whoopdee ******* doo.


*cackle* Well I'm the uncle of 4 boys and a girl, and I have a different perspective than that.

It's not caring less, at least in the case of the nephews and niece, it's more so about the amount of detail that's included. If one of my brothers tells me something new that one of the kids does, I'm happy to hear it. However, if they want to gab for a half hour about a little rug rat being able to walk, you will bother me. We all went through those milestones, and as was previously stated, it's not like inventing something new.

Proud parents, feel free to mention those milestones (it is neat when they happen), but do not expect the people to jump up and down - and if you ramble on forever about one little milestone, you will bore them to tears. If they try to strangle you, you've probably crossed the line a while back. ^^
#20 Jan 27 2005 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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actually, and i know you feel that it was you being mean for not caring about the kid and everything, but what about the dude who talks about his kids all the time and doesnt pay enough attention to the friend (not saying that this IS the case, it's just a hypothetical). so, it's kinda both ways, just like any relationship. if dad is talking about kids too much so as to bore the crap out of friend, then dad needs to remember that friend has other things in his life. and the same for friend - friend needs to remember that daddy-o has kids now, and that they're going to run his life. so, sympathy both ways. and diapers for all.
#21 Jan 27 2005 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
All I can say is, if I was said friend, I wouldn't want to be your friend anymore. What the hell kind of friendship is that? "I don't care about his kid" Jesus... sickening.
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