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#52 Jan 26 2005 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
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I often wonder waht the past life equivalant to this Forum is.


unless it is somthing so cosmically evolved that is somthing totally new and unique and all of us who are aware and paricipating in it have transcended another level of existance and awareness and this is the manifestaion of that...
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although, while I believe that most of the people that I interact with in everyday life, I have interacted with in past lives. (that is to say..... AM interacting with simultaniously on many levels)
I still wonder if it works the same way over the internet.... like If I've "known" any of you people in passed lives (perhaps through a similar medium) even though I'll never meet you.

Edited, Wed Jan 26 11:27:58 2005 by Kelvyquayo
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#53 Jan 26 2005 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Heres my theory on why we don't realize we are living 'again'"

We do. lol

No seriously I think that deep down we do know and that the dreams and premonitions and feelings we get are the only way our brain can handle the knowledge that Life is greater than our singular existance. I believe that God is a sort of giant cosmic ball of claydough (energy). From itself it created everything in the universe, fo what purpose I have no idea, though I assume self exploration and enlightenment. Afterall you aren't going to grow much when you are the only thing in existance and have no one to challenge you or bounce your ideas off of. Anyway, when God created us of itself I think we retained the knowledg eof our Godlyness but that as humans we can't comprehend it. Ever think real hard about God and the universe and get to point where you almost think you understand it all and then your brain shuts down? Yeah, that's natures way of keeping our fragile little human minds from cracking.

Anyway, So heres God, who wants to grow as a being and does so by dividing itself itto tiny God pieces and gving each on it's own identity and free will. When we experience a 'life' we are simply experiencing existance from a different point of view. My view of the world from the perspective of an elderly chinese man working n the rice fields (one of my lives) is quite different from my perspective of life as a spolied dukes son (yet another life). How better to learn about each other (an more so ourselves) than by literally walking in thier shoes?

Some people say past lives are impossible because so many people claim to have been the same famous person. That is only true if you believe time is linear and that we are individuals. I believe that when we 'die' (I don't believe in life or death only different forms of existance) that we return to the bit of cosmic clay that remained seperate from us. At that point we experienc not only our own awareness of life but the awareness, knowledge and experience of all the other God pieces. It's a review process of sorts, to see what we've learned and then we move on to our next 'assignment'. Ask yourself, what happens when a kid mixes all thier clay together? Can you pull the red from the green,the green from the blue? You see the seperate colors but you can't actually seperate them. When we return to God we become part of the whole again and since all people are God, we are all people. Thus I experienced being Cleopatra just as much as anyone else.

Does that make any sense? Good luck and blessings, Prana
#54 Jan 26 2005 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Does that make any sense?


I think we're practically on the same "wave-length" here.

Although good luck getting other people to believe it.


They don't like it wehn you tell them that somthing can be beyond our human comprehension...ahem.. bhodisattva...*cough*
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#55 Jan 26 2005 at 12:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Back in my teens and early 20's, I used to have strange deja vu style experiences. Basicly, I'd dream something mundane like a conversation and awaken with a real ***** feeling about it. About a week or two later, I'd be talking to someone, get the ***** feeling again like I knew what was about to happen and we'd repeat the same conversation verbatim during which I almost felt carried along by the tide, knowing what I was supposed to be saying and how it'd go. The whole thing probably happened to me maybe 10-15 times.

I haven't had it happen in maybe 5-7 years now but even then I didn't spend a ton of time worrying about it. Either there was some rational scientific reason for it and I only thought I was having the experience or else I was indeed having them and experienced a bit of precognition that was restricted to pretty useless events. When I start dreaming about Snowflake coming in first on the third race, I'll get excited.
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#56 Jan 26 2005 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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True.

Our minds can really make us "think" anything...regardless of our consciousness. Like; make you think that you are remembering somthing as it is happening because your mind tells you that it happened before.... maybe there is just a chemical that causes a feeling of familiarity and get's released at odd times making us feel familiiar with waht is happening even though we have never experienced it.

in this capacity, i will never be able to say for certain that the things that I have experianced wern't just delusions brought on by some nuerosis or mental defect.

That is why Faith must still play a big part in everything. No one should be able to say that they know anything.. at all, about anything.. as it could all just be some illusion...

I say just ride it out and see waht happens.
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#57 Jan 27 2005 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Ah yess... de brain.. she is one complex chunk of hamburger.

My daughter and I had this conversation a few days ago, about how it would be awesome to control your nightmares.. You know.. turn around and flatten that beast who was chasing you with some super hero comic book power! I used to have control like that when I was around 9 or 10 but.. I spose ya lose that kind of agility as ya get older..

Now my dreams are just plain strange.. What I remember doesnt make much sense.. If I took my dreams to heart, I guess I would be mentally screwed.. lol
#58 Jan 27 2005 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Nightmare on Elm St. part 3 man! Dream Warriors
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#59 Jan 27 2005 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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He has to enter some form of REM, even if its in a form of medidation. After hitting psychotic episodes at around 5 days without REM, at 10 days most animals will die. It serves an important purpose for the body... I wonder how it works for him?


I read in Time magazine about a month ago, that doctors are taking another look at sleep and the 2 phases you go through. They always thought REM was the most important aspect of sleep, but they are starting to change their views. It actually looks like non REM sleep affects your memory more then REM sleep, which they had originally thoguht was the other way around.


Hmm, that was an interesting article lady.. good read :) I still wonder how it works for the guy to still be alive though. I've read experimental right ups where animals are completely deprived of sleep and they die within a time frame of about 2 weeks (like I said, about 10 days). If the guy really hasn't slept, he should've been dead a long while back!

I know in a lot of cultures sleep can often be substituted by deep trained meditation, but still, wow. No sleep in 20 years? and people wonder where zombies come from.


As for the whole time arguement, I've always pictured time as something like the cutting room of a film studio. Imagine there are an infinite number of film strips of the same movie, running on an infinite number of projectors. The only difference between each projector is that each one is one frame ahead of the previous. Looking at it like that, it wouldn't be so hard to jump from one time to another.. it would just involve finding a way from one projector to another. to reach any given point in time. However each projector is seperate from the others... possibly a different dimension.. at least a different timeline.

This isn't so far different from string theory either, which is why i felt like I was a smart little kid, lol. Gee, I wonder what happened? ;)
#60 Jan 27 2005 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Cause and effect: such a duality probably never exists; in truth we are confronted by a continuum out of which we isolate a couple of pieces, just as we perceive motion only as isolated points and then infer it without ever actually seeing it. The suddenness with which many effects stand out misleads us; actually, it is sudden only for us. In this moment of suddenness there are an infinite number of processes which elude us. An intellect that could see cause and effect as a continuum and a flux and not, as we do, in terms of an arbitrary division and dismemberment, would repudiate the concept of cause and effect and deny all conditionality.

from Nietzsche's The Gay Science


he's such an as[b][/b]shole. He's great.

Edited, Thu Jan 27 11:44:19 2005 by Kelvyquayo
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