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#1 Jan 18 2005 at 7:08 PM Rating: Decent
If you are a parent then please tell me, do you let your child stay up all night running around? I mean running, screaming, banging stuff. Ilove kids, but I wanna just scream at these children.

I live in an apartment and last night was a hellish night. The neighbor kids, i think 6 and 3, are the worlds most UNRULY children.

The mother completely lets them run her over. I live in an apartment so thats not cool with me. I didn't do anything about it last night or the 2 nights ago but it seems to be an on-going thing?

How should I handle this? (BTW, the neighbors are also related to the managers ><.)

Edit: typo



Edited, Tue Jan 18 19:09:49 2005 by Mlynn
#2 Jan 18 2005 at 7:13 PM Rating: Good
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#3 Jan 18 2005 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
I guess it depends. If you're in a nice neighborhood then talk to your neighbors and see if they have the same problem with those particular neighbors. There is safety (and force) in numbers.

However, if they are the neighborhood dope dealer then perhaps you should just find another place to live anyways.
#4 Jan 18 2005 at 7:18 PM Rating: Decent
It's a apartment, but it is duplexes... About 30 duplexes in like a boot shape grid. 2 are attached, so there are 15 sets. We are on the end, so we are the farthest away from people. >< That's the problem.

My lease expires in March, i may just tell em to GFY... I don't know.
#5 Jan 18 2005 at 7:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I can relate, living beneath a family of very heavyset people with apparent marital problems. Even so, I prefer it to living above someone who has anger management problems, and considers the one time we were ever noisy to have been done on purpose to **** him off O_o

You need to take it up first with the neighbors themselves, then the managers. Be civil and stuff, but feel free to make up a sob story about your work/school hours, sleeping disorders, etc. or subtly suggest that the lack of a set bedtime for such young children could constitute neglect (if you're feeling bold). Record the time and date of each confrontation. If nothing is done, call the police. In most residential areas there is a sort of noise curfew after 10-11 pm. Invite the nice officers in to check out the decibels in your apartment. Even kids who don't respect their parents will respect a man in uniform.

This will only help for a couple of weeks though. My first apartment was above a Mexican family with 5 children in a 2-bedroom unit and a penchant for Tejano music at 8 AM on weekends. I swear those little brats learned to walk on the ceiling. We were never able to get it through their heads that we were upset with them, after 5 calls to the apartment managers and 3 calls to the police over the course of 6 months.
#6 Jan 18 2005 at 7:30 PM Rating: Good
Figure out what time they finally sleep. Move your speakers to the wall. Turn up the volume and play it during that time. They might get the message. But you should probly talk to the manager first, if he won't do anything because they're related, you could talk to the owner and point to the lease (if noise pollution is in the lease). Or you could call the cops as Krylanna suggests. If all that fails, you should probably move. Or go ninja and assassinate them, camp their corpses and collect their loot.
#7 Jan 18 2005 at 7:37 PM Rating: Good
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Lol. This is always a problem. I live in a bottom condo unit. The lady upstairs is usually pretty good, but she's got a couple grandkids that are ridiculous. I swear, they've got ADD or some other weird disorder. We've never had problems with loud music or anthing, but just bumping and moving around noises. The kids in particular are almost psychotic in how they make noise.

I think one of them gets punished by being put in his room or something, and responds to that by rhythmically banging on the floor for like an hour at a time. It's not super loud, just something that after awhile you become aware of (bam, bam, bam, bam, bam... perfectly in time). You'd think he'd get tired after awhile, but it goes on and on, and once you notice it you can't ignore it anymore.

It's hard to deal with this sort of thing because it's not the kind of noise that travels outside the units themselves. If the cops can't hear loud noise from outside as they pull up, they aren't going to do anything. But when you live above/below someone, you can hear the thumps and whatnot very clearly even though nothing can be heard from outside.

I'd just politely talk to them about it. In a lot of cases, people just aren't aware of how much noise they are making. I've run into people who stomp around without really knowing they are doing it. A few reminders can do wonders in this case (but unfortunately doesn't help with the ritalin deprived kid who's being punished already anyway...).


Certainly, if this noise is going on late at night, bring it up. It may not help, but it probably wont hurt either. At least maybe the noises will include screams at the kids to keep quite, which may be a step in the right direction...
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#8 Jan 18 2005 at 7:40 PM Rating: Decent
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You're in a tough spot. As a leasee, you have the right to complain. But since they are related to the magaers, it will be hard to get your point across. Also, trying to tell her she's not raising her kids well will probably get you a slap in the face.


How well do you know the mother? Does she know you? Do you exchange hellos as you pass or do you basically ignore each other? IF you at least say hello and smile, you can always go up to her next time you cross paths, and politely mention or insinuate, that you acknowledge how hard it is to raise such energetic kids, and make a comment on how little sleep she must get, as you yourself could hear them into the wee hours of the morning. If she's a smart cookie, she'll get the implication. If she's not, meh.

If you are not on hello basis, I would say start looking for a new place and get ready to give your 30 days notice. You're not paying for late night entertainment.
#9 Jan 18 2005 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
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just bang on the wall when the noise is happening. If they're not ********, they'll get the drift.
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#10 Jan 18 2005 at 8:12 PM Rating: Good
Fight fire with fire.

The one (and only) time I consented to live in a 'condo' that had neighbors underneath me, I wound up having water temperature wars with them. For a prank, they would flush the toilet when I was in the shower (you could hear the pipes if you were in the bathroom or laundry room).

Once I took up their tactics, it was not very long before they moved.


If you don't want to go through all the effort of fighting their noise with noiseof your own, just go upstairs and let the parents know you are a convicted child molestor. Then tell the kids you've got some candy for them any time they want to drop by. If the kids come by, give em candy and act very nice. It'll work itself out from there.
#11 Jan 18 2005 at 9:06 PM Rating: Good
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They're related to the managers. You're screwed.

Just deal with it and move out at the earliest opportunity (without breaking your lease).
#12 Jan 18 2005 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
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The answer is Lime

I wont go into details on this but anyone that knows what Lime can do to the human body should know where im going with this.
#13 Jan 18 2005 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
I cannot harm thes3e children! lol, well maybe just one bite..
#15 Jan 19 2005 at 12:39 AM Rating: Good
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Audibly act out the nastiest possible sex acts you can think of.


#16 Jan 19 2005 at 1:07 AM Rating: Decent
arguably less creative than cetain others, but you could call cps and report suspected child abuse/neglect. i understand these call are kept confidential so there's a minimal risk of backlash
#17 Jan 19 2005 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
I say, call the damn cops. That'll scare the children AND parents *********

I'm pretty damn sure that theres some kind of regulations on the noise issue. Theres noise regulations in a community of houses, so I'm pretty sure theres some stricter tules in apartment buildings.
#18 Jan 19 2005 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
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Make sure it involves barnyard animals and plenty of rough language. Get your friends to come help.

Sounds like you live in a crappy apartment complex anyway. Weren't you the one a few months ago with the neighbor that threw your cat? Or am I thinking of someone else? If so you should probably just move.
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#19 Jan 19 2005 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
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Write a note and slip it under their door. Word it very nicely and non-confrontational. Something along the lines of "Hello, neighbor.
On the following days, noise levels above average coming from your apartment disturbed my sleep:
List the days, times, etc
I understand that children will make noise, and perhaps you did not know that the walls were so thin. It would be very much appreciated by your neighbor to please make sure they do not make any kind of regular noise between 10pm and 6am (for example). Please feel free to come over and talk about this if there is anything I can do to help. I appreciate the hard work of raising a family, and I write this note in good faith that we can work together to solve this.

Respectfully yours, You, Apt #101, etc."

Document any response, even if she comes over and yells, and use it to show the manager that you have always been courteous and respectful. If she gets threatening, you can even use it to break your lease.
#20 Jan 19 2005 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
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If you are a parent then please tell me, do you let your child stay up all night running around? I mean running, screaming, banging stuff. Ilove kids, but I wanna just scream at these children.


I have a 3 year old and he is in bed by 8:30 no if's and or buts about it. He's been on that schedule since he was about 6 months old.

If they do it regularly invite the manager over to hear how loud the noise is. Maybe coming from a family member the mother will take the critisism a bit better.

#21 Jan 19 2005 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
*edit* It was 7:00 am
3-6 screaming kids? That's nothing. When I was living back at my old appartment complex the neibors above me statred to *ahem* and the ones below me (Manager and his wife) had their TV up real loud. I hadn't gotten ANY sleep that night and when I finaly fell asleep people start doing the lawn work (Lawnmower and all) I closed all the windows and tried to go back to sleep, but that just made the *caughsexcaugh* easier to hear. I opened the windows back up.

Edited, Wed Jan 19 10:09:39 2005 by Cedri

Edited, Wed Jan 19 10:04:16 2005 by Cedri
#22 Jan 19 2005 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I had this problem in my last apartment. It was actually a subdivided house, 3 apartments on 3 floors. mine was in the middle. On the top was a Mexican/hispanic family with small kids. These kids ran rampant 24/7 without a break. Now, this house isn't in great shape to begin with, but upstairs they'd play this annoying carnival-sounding music so loudly you could hear it three blocks away, and the kids ran across the floor, jumping up and down the whole time. Our ceiling would shudder and the ceiling fan was on the verge of falling.

Trying to talk to them didn't help. The mother pretended not to speak English, and the kids would be standing behind her in the doorway yelling "FU[b][/b]CK YOUUU" as loud as they could. Neither the landlady or the cops cared at all. After my roommate got into the habit of callign at least three times a week, they started complaining about *us*.

One time it got so bad that I stood up and started knocking on the ceilign to see if I could get their attention. The response? Simultaneously stomping on the floor hard enough to make plaster fall, and screaming. I got so fed up that I put my fist through the ceiling panel. Luckily I moved out of that place soon afterwards.
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#23 Jan 19 2005 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Write a note and slip it under their door. Word it very nicely and non-confrontational. Something along the lines of "Hello, neighbor.
On the following days, noise levels above average coming from your apartment disturbed my sleep:
List the days, times, etc
I understand that children will make noise, and perhaps you did not know that the walls were so thin. It would be very much appreciated by your neighbor to please make sure they do not make any kind of regular noise between 10pm and 6am (for example). Please feel free to come over and talk about this if there is anything I can do to help. I appreciate the hard work of raising a family, and I write this note in good faith that we can work together to solve this.

Respectfully yours, You, Apt #101, etc."

Document any response, even if she comes over and yells, and use it to show the manager that you have always been courteous and respectful. If she gets threatening, you can even use it to break your lease.


What she said.
#24 Jan 19 2005 at 4:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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I had that problem once, but I had the butler move our furniture to the West Tower and we converted the Blue Gallery into our receiving room.

That's my recommendation.

If it gets any worse, have your man-servants prepare some of the out-buildings into occasional sleeping areas. You may have to move some of the horses into the lower field but it should be worth it for the peace and quiet.

If ever you need other practical advice, have your people call my people.

Alternatively, I find hitting the ceiling with a broom and screaming "Shut the F[i][/i]uck Up ************** in my finest Ian Gillan voice does the trick.
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#25 Jan 20 2005 at 4:26 PM Rating: Default
Say that you will invite Michael Jackson to come to your apartment building. That should make them move(or call the cops ^^;).
#26 Jan 20 2005 at 4:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've got a single family home so the amount of noise my rug monkey makes isn't all that big a deal. I still send him to bed at 8:30-9:00 though. Hell, much later than that and I feel ready to snap.
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