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#1 Jan 18 2005 at 3:51 PM Rating: Default
this leaked from a high level official actually in charge of the project..........

"not one piece" of evidence to support the Whitehouse position concerning Iraq.

no evidence of WMD or WMD programs.
no evidence of hidden stockpiles.
no evidence of Weapons being moved ot another country.
no evidence of ties to any terrorist organizations targeting our country.
no evidence of a working relationship with Al-Queda.

the summery is filled with alot of "could have", "not impossible", "probably did at some time"....

bottom line? ZIPPO, ZERO, BIG GOOSE EGG, NADA.

so as you are shouting for the home team during this addministrations inaugeration, do not forget to say a small prayer for the THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of men, women, and chidren we BUTCHERD without having even "one piece" if evidence they DESERVED or NEEDED to die.

while you are at it, ask God to forgive us, because i seriously doubt the Iraqi people ever will.

wooohaaaa, 4 more years.....
#2 Jan 18 2005 at 3:57 PM Rating: Default
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good post. a week ago. however, no rate-down for actually talking about something that really happened this time!!! congrats!
#3 Jan 18 2005 at 4:06 PM Rating: Good
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this leaked from a high level official actually in charge of the project..........


This leaked from shadowrelm's head, copious amounts of air.

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the summery is filled with alot of "could have", "not impossible", "probably did at some time"....

The summary of this post is filled with alot of "hot air", although it would be "not impossible" to capitalize for most people, shadowrelm just somehow cannot do it but "probably did at some time".

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while you are at it, ask God to forgive us
for letting shadow grace us with his enlightening posts.

Woohaa!!!

Edited, Tue Jan 18 16:13:47 2005 by RedjedBlue
#4 Jan 18 2005 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
That isn't news anymore. The whole WoMD theory stinked from the beginning, and my country believed it.
After 3 months without any proof it seemed I was right, and when a few months later the CIA said the messed with the photo's I knew it for sure.

Allmost two years later -> the country is still a full piece of ****, in the central regions it's allmost total anarchy. Troops of non UK/US countries are leaving since they now understand they came there for someone else's pleasure. (No not the Iraqi peoples' but someone elses) But hey, atleast the 'western' countries have enough oil for a while! ;)

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wooohaaaa, 4 more years.....


Stop whining, your country choose him themselves. Live with it, plan a revolution, emigrate to Holland (you'll love it :D) but for god's sake, stop whining.
#5 Jan 18 2005 at 4:09 PM Rating: Good
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shadowrelm wrote:
this leaked from a high level official actually in charge of the project..........


White House press secretary Scott McClellan said there no longer is an active search for weapons and the administration does not hold out hopes that any weapons will be found.

Leaked, ooooooh..... Conspiracies abound.

Shadowrelm, I dislike Bush as much as the next guy but you are a useless ****.

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#6 Jan 18 2005 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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wooohaaaa, 4 more years.....



Stop whining, your country choose him themselves. Live with it, plan a revolution, emigrate to Holland (you'll love it :D) but for god's sake, stop whining.


Well at least move out of you own *** and into the world of 'Nobody gives two fu[i][/i]cks what you think' land.

#7 Jan 18 2005 at 4:12 PM Rating: Default
last week was the conclusion of the project, this is the final report and the official response from the people in charge of it. agree, same info, just finalized.

also in the interview, referances to a CIA document painting a very bad picture for the outcome in iraq was quoted.

basically, the CIA report claims we may have created a terrorist breeding ground in Iraq, simmilar to the one WE CREATED in afganistan by supporting the Taliban against the Ruskies. we created the very problem we were trying to solve where there was no problem before we invaded.

it also goes on to say the election may spark a civil war as opposed to bringing legitimacy to the new government. if one of the two largest factions loose, it suggest they may team up with foreign insurgents to oust the new government by assinating them.

wooohaaaaa, stupid is as stupid does. 4 more years........
#8 Jan 18 2005 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
After reading all of shadow's posts, I must ask, how old are you? It's not meant to be mean-spirited or anything, but it just seems to me that:
1. You can't spell
2. You can't capitalize
3. You dont' strike me as a person who has voted before, i don't know why...maybe i'm wrong.
#9 Jan 18 2005 at 4:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Also in the news today, Condi Rice answered extensive questioning about T0tem's "Alabama Black Snake".
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#10REDACTED, Posted: Jan 18 2005 at 4:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well at least move out of you own *** and into the world of 'Nobody gives two ***** what you think' land.
#11REDACTED, Posted: Jan 18 2005 at 4:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well at least move out of you own *** and into the world of 'Nobody gives two ***** what you think' land.
#12 Jan 18 2005 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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Barretboy wrote:
After reading all of shadow's posts, I must ask, how old are you? It's not meant to be mean-spirited or anything, but it just seems to me that:
1. You can't spell
2. You can't capitalize
3. You dont' strike me as a person who has voted before, i don't know why...maybe i'm wrong.


You are wrong

Im pretty sure Shadow has mentioned having a daughter so that would make him at least old enough to vote.

You are right about his lack of grammar though, but good or bad its not his grammar I have a problem with. Its his "crazy manifesto guy" ramblings that that annoys.

He is either a wacko or a sock used in the same way that Varus is used to discredit the right by making them look crazy. The fact that he has never posted on an issue outside of a political thread kinda leads me to believe that he is a sock mainly just trying to stir sh[b][/b]it up.

Edited, Tue Jan 18 16:27:28 2005 by bhodisattva
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#13 Jan 18 2005 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
After reading all of shadow's posts, I must ask, how old are you? It's not meant to be mean-spirited or anything, but it just seems to me that:
1. You can't spell
2. You can't capitalize
3. You dont' strike me as a person who has voted before, i don't know why...maybe i'm wrong.
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i thought the same thing the first, second, and every time i hear Bush speak.....and yet.....he is the president.

so you gotta ask yourself, is the "putting little effort" into how other people percieve you an "in" thing now?

59 million of you think so.
#14 Jan 18 2005 at 4:27 PM Rating: Good
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I agree with Bhoddi. Shadow is nothing but a troll. Ignore it.
#15 Jan 18 2005 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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i could care less what you think of me personally. really.

but do you "give two @#%^s" about what your country is doing to innocent people in YOUR NAME? most germans who supported Hitler didnt either.............


Oh yeah that's good just throw in Hitler to the mix, remind me again what he has to do with this? Nothing? Exactly.

And what's saying I don't agree with Bush and Blair and what they are doing in Iraq? I don't but i'd rather call you a f[/i]ucker for the lame *** posting that you do.

Do you ever consider using proper grammar? I'm assuming you're American and that English is your first language. If so please us it properly, I mean it's not too hard you know. Alot of people manage it without much trouble. You could at least put some effort in.


[i]Edited, Tue Jan 18 16:30:16 2005 by TheDave
#16 Jan 18 2005 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Also in the news today, Condi Rice answered extensive questioning about T0tem's "Alabama Black Snake".


Ok that was funny
#17 Jan 18 2005 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
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Also in the news today, Condi Rice answered extensive questioning about T0tem's "Alabama Black Snake".


Smiley: laugh

How long have you been waiting to drop that little gem?
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#18 Jan 18 2005 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Did Saddam not gas some half a million Kurdish citizens?

Did he not unleash gas on the Iranians during the 8 year war?

Did we -the U.S.- not provide him, along with the Russians, with the technological know-how to produce said weapons?

The left in this country seems to have puppets like you who spew this nonsense about Iraq. They did have WMDs at some point and every single intelligence service across the globe said that he did in fact have accessibility to WMDs at the time of the invasion. Just because he destroyed them or was lied to by his own experts does not give Saddam a pass. He had 12 years with which to turn over evidence of his lack of weapons. Either he believed there was a reason to ignore the demands because he thought he still had the weapons, or he thought Bush would pull a French maneuver known as a "Blink". He was wrong.

Something you might want to stick in your pipe and toke on: If Iraq does indeed become a free state with its own governing body, those countries in the Middle East that are anti-change will be given pause. Iran is under stress from the young students of its nation who desire freedom and reform. The Saudi sovereigns are terrified that their people will get some cojones and rise up to overrun their sadistic and tyrranical theocratic rule. Egypt, Syria, Yemen and on and on may get the idea to rearrange the political make-up of their own societies, and in 50 years the entire face of the Middle East could change in our favor.

Of course, it could be the beginning of Armageddon. But there will be water if God wills it, or so they say.
#19 Jan 18 2005 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
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On a side note Bhod's Avatar = Ouch!!!
#20 Jan 18 2005 at 4:41 PM Rating: Good
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Shadowmrelm meet Darkrein

let the troll competition being!!
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#21 Jan 18 2005 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Aside from this whole post being a week later and a dollar short...

shadowrelm wrote:

no evidence of WMD or WMD programs.


Not entirely true. No evidence of such existing at the time we invaded. Tons of evidence and "proof" that said existed before hand. Lost of evidence that had we not invaded, said items would have been built.

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no evidence of hidden stockpiles.


More or less the same as above. None at the time we invaded (not enough to be called a "stockpile" anyway). Certainly tons of evidence that had we not invaded, and had sanctions allowed to be erroded further, Iraq would have rebuilt them.

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no evidence of Weapons being moved ot another country.


No idea on this. Look. First thing you need to grasp is that "no evidence" does not mean that something didn't happen. It just means that we can't find proof that it happened. You also have to understand that the war really wasn't predicated on the assumption that Iraq currently possessed a stockpile of WMD poised and ready to strike the US. The war was about the fact that if unchecked, Iraq *would* continue to attempt to build such weapons, and UN sanctions were not changing that.

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no evidence of ties to any terrorist organizations targeting our country.
no evidence of a working relationship with Al-Queda.


Not sure what definition of "no evidence" you are using. Iraq most definately "had ties" to a number of terrorist organizations. Some of which most certainly have targetted US citizens in the past, and presumably will in the future.

What you really mean to say is that there's no credible connection between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks. Um... No one in the Bush administration ever claimed that, and we certainly did not go to war with Iraq based on that assumption.


But keep on spinning stuff in your head. It's funny...
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Smiley: laugh

How long have you been waiting to drop that little gem?
Heh, it was part of today's Tribune online story on the confirmation hearings. I just didn't think it deserved its own thread.
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#23 Jan 18 2005 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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Oh and Darkreign US State Dept numbers but the dead at Saddams hands at around 250-320,000. Lots of em were kurds but not all, just to clear up your 500k number.

US number from First Gulf War and present situation put the number of Iraqis dead from US at around 120-150,000 so you are half way there in 10 years.
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#24 Jan 18 2005 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok bhod.

But of those 120-150k how many were Saddam's loyalist forces who put countless numbers of their own people into the ground at his request. And how many did we save in the process.

O and please don't lose my respect by using the old "yer a troll" ********* I admit I don't have 1000s of posts, but that's because I like my posts to actually mean something. I've been around for a long while even if you don't know who the fuck I am.

And you're right because its only 250-320k and not half a million that makes it okaly-dokaly. Christ man, they say kill one person it's a murder, kill 100,000 and its a statistic. Have a heart?
#25 Jan 18 2005 at 5:04 PM Rating: Default
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Gbaji, just because that prick shadow is so stupid he would even shame the plant world DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD JOIN HIM.

Admit it for once, there where no WMD in Iraq, WMD had no baring on why Bush invaded, he did not care about the Iraqi people and for bob's sake stop trying to justify it.

It makes you look as low down the food chain as the dweeb who need not be mentioned.

Shadow do the world a favour and fall of a cliff.

Edited, Tue Jan 18 17:04:43 2005 by tarv
#26 Jan 18 2005 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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No idea on this. Look. First thing you need to grasp is that "no evidence" does not mean that something didn't happen. It just means that we can't find proof that it happened. You also have to understand that the war really wasn't predicated on the assumption that Iraq currently possessed a stockpile of WMD poised and ready to strike the US. The war was about the fact that if unchecked, Iraq *would* continue to attempt to build such weapons, and UN sanctions were not changing that.

So we don't need proof or evidence to go to war? You're stating that we based the war on speculation, expectation and fear-mongering.
I would just like to make a small fix to one of your statements:
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The war was about the *assumption* that if unchecked, Iraq would continue to attempt to build such weapons


Quick, we better invade Iran before they actually do anything to threaten us!

It would seem that we took Saddam out to protect the Israeli people, not the Iraqis. The terrorists he supported were mostly working on behalf of the Palestinian movement, not al'Quaeda. The Taliban was the party responsible for harboring al'Quaeda and the ones directly responsible for killing Americans - yet Osama bin Laden is still not in custody (that we know about).
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