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#1 Jan 14 2005 at 10:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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In April 2004 the Onion wrote:
Bush To Iraqi Militants: ‘Please Stop Bringing It On’
WASHINGTON, DC—In an internationally televised statement Monday, President Bush modified a July 2003 challenge to Iraqi militants attacking U.S. forces. “Terrorists, Saddam loyalists, and anti-American insurgents: Please stop bringing it on now,” Bush said at a Monday press conference. “Nine months and 500 U.S. casualties ago, I may have invited y’all to bring it on, but as of today, I formally rescind that statement. I would officially like for you to step back.” The president added that the “it” Iraqis should stop bringing includes gunfire, bombings, grenade attacks, and suicide missions of all types.


Today the Chicago Tribune wrote:
Bush: 2nd thoughts on `Bring 'em on'

WASHINGTON -- President Bush expressed misgivings Thursday for two of his most famous expressions: "Bring 'em on," in reference to Iraqis attacking U.S. troops, and his vow to get Osama bin Laden "dead or alive."

During an interview with reporters from 14 newspapers, Bush acknowledged that his tough language "had an unintended consequence."

On July 2, 2003, two months after he had declared an end to major combat in Iraq, Bush promised that U.S. forces would stay until the creation of a free government there. To those who would attack U.S. forces in an attempt to deter that mission, Bush said, "My answer is: Bring 'em on."

"Sometimes, words have consequences you don't intend them to mean," Bush said Thursday. "`Bring 'em on' is the classic example, when I was really trying to rally the troops and make it clear to them that I fully understood, you know, what a great job they were doing. And those words had an unintended consequence. It kind of, some interpreted it to be defiance in the face of danger. That certainly wasn't the case."

In the week after the Sept. 11 attacks, Bush was asked whether he wanted bin Laden, the terrorist leader blamed for the attacks, dead.

"I want justice," Bush said. "And there's an old poster out West, that I recall, that said, `Wanted, Dead or Alive.'"

Recalling that remark, Bush said Thursday: "I can remember getting back to the White House, and Laura said, `Why did you do that for?' I said, `Well, it was just an expression that came out. I didn't rehearse it."'


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#2 Jan 14 2005 at 10:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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"Sometimes, words have consequences you don't intend them to mean," Bush said Thursday. "`Bring 'em on' is the classic example, when I was really trying to rally the troops and make it clear to them that I fully understood, you know, what a great job they were doing. And those words had an unintended consequence. It kind of, some interpreted it to be defiance in the face of danger."


Gosh, who would have thought that everyone else on the planet would have interpreted the phrase based on how it's commonly used?

That's just embarrassing.
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#3 Jan 14 2005 at 10:36 AM Rating: Decent
How exactly, did this man get REelected...
#4 Jan 14 2005 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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"Sometimes, words have consequences you don't intend them to mean," Bush said Thursday. "`Bring 'em on' is the classic example, when I was really trying to rally the troops and make it clear to them that I fully understood, you know, what a great job they were doing. And those words had an unintended consequence. It kind of, some interpreted it to be defiance in the face of danger. That certainly wasn't the case."



I was always under the impression "Bring 'em" was geared towards a foe. Bush taught me a new meaning today! I had no idea that was a compliment to those who are doing my dirty work. Smiley: rolleyes
#5 Jan 14 2005 at 10:50 AM Rating: Good
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The sad thing is that this is the closest Bush has come to admitting that he was wrong about something and it only took hundreds of dead troops and a massive civilian insurgency for him to kinda admit that he made a mistake.
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#6 Jan 14 2005 at 11:04 AM Rating: Default
just like a meglo maniac.

thinking the world revolves around his very word.

it was on the day we put a base in Saudi Arabia, and did not remove it after the first gulf war....like we said we would.

this is why 9-11 happened....not that it, or something like it wouldnt have happened anyway because of our bullyish foriegn policy,s.

the day it was "on" was the day the first gulf war ended.

what we are experiencing in Iraq right now is exactly how the middle east has treated every non-muslim foreign force trying to occupy muslim land. since the Crusades, this war of attrition is how they have fought every war against superrior forces.

it was predictable. it was ineviatable. and if Bush had gotten better than a "c" in school, mabe he would have read about this in history class, mabe he would have been paying attention to teh world around him, instead of living inside his head, where the world is as he deems it to be.

his words mean NOTHING in this conflict. just as Hussin means nothing, as the death of Osama Bin Laudin will mean nothing, as the upcoming election will mean nothing, and eveyr other head this addministraition tries to put on this snake will mean nothing.

all Bush did was try to put out a fire by spraying OIL on it. stupid is as stupid does. his "c" average abilities shinning through.

only an idiot would try to fight islamic extremist by occupying a muslim country.

the volence in Iraq will not end untill every american is out of the country, and every thing we touched destroyed.

you notice you dont see policy statements by the insurgents? a "if you did this, we would stop" type of jesture? it is their mind set. a farmer sees a poisonus snake, he matter of factly just kills it to protect his livestock. the PEOPLE of the middle east are just "matter of factly" attacking us, because it is their duty.

not a duty some leader put into their head. that can be defeeated by killing the leader. but a duty they percieve as demended of them by God. no talk. no negotiating. kill the infidel invaders to protect Gods land from the sins of the world.

this will not stop in this generation. and the more of them we kill, the more enraged they become, the harder they attack us. people following a leader would eventualy cow down to a superrior force. these people are not folloing any leader. they are following what they percieve as Gods will. and unlike us, Gods will is not just weekend hell fire insurence, it is more important to them than their life.

Bush,s words mean nothing. absolutly nothing. any student how payed attention in history class could tell him this. nothing he does will mean anything to them.

it is solely the vastnes of his ego that lets him believe any of this has anything to do with his words, or that his words could influence the outcome of this situation.

they will keep coming untill we leave. if we never leave, they will never stop comming. period.

1. geanocide of the entire muslim population in the middle east.

2. get all non-muslim forces out of the middle east.

time will eventually moderate their beliefs to become more tollarant of us. it has only been since 1936 that they have become aware of a world bigger than themselves. one generation. give them some space, then gime them TIME to become more moderate.

this problem cannot be solved with an "iron hammer". anyone who paid attention in school could see that.
#7 Jan 14 2005 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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The sad thing is that this is the closest Bush has come to admitting that he was wrong about something and it only took hundreds of dead troops and a massive civilian insurgency for him to kinda admit that he made a mistake.


In the words of Steve Dallas:

"Accountability is un-American!"
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Looks like I struck a Pubbie nerve!!! Smiley: laugh
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#9 Jan 14 2005 at 12:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Haha, same. /highfive Jophiel
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#10 Jan 14 2005 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
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As did I, odd that my homosexual bomb didnt seem to get the pubbies upset at all.
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#11 Jan 14 2005 at 12:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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I might have to rate down Bhod's avatar on general principle Smiley: tongue
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#12 Jan 14 2005 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

The Onion and the Chicago tribune paradigms of reporting virtue.

On a side note would you like to know what percentage of 150,000 that 1300 is? It's .008% Yes this war is taxing the limits of the u.s. military. We've yet to incur 1% casualties how is our military ever to survive losing men at such a rate?

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#13 Jan 14 2005 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
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varrussword wrote:
Jophed,

The Onion and the Chicago tribune paradigms of reporting virtue.

Varus

Show me that Bush didn't actually say the things they quoted him as saying. Are you disputing those quotes?

Furthermore, and I'd like to toss this out there for all the liberal media attackers, the Chicago Tribune has endorsed every single Republican candidate for president since 1872.


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varrussword wrote:
Jophed,

The Onion and the Chicago tribune paradigms of reporting virtue.

Varus

Show me that Bush didn't actually say the things they quoted him as saying. Are you disputing those quotes?

Furthermore, and I'd like to toss this out there for all the liberal media attackers, the Chicago Tribune has endorsed every single Republican candidate for president since 1872.


Or so the liberal media would have you believe.
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#15 Jan 14 2005 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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It was said at a round table discussion with representatives of 20 or so papers from around the country, including: Detroit Free Press, the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times, The (Portland) Oregonian, the (Little Rock) Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, The Miami Herald, The Kansas City (Mo.) Star, The (Phoenix) Arizona Republic, the Portland (Maine) Press Herald, The Hartford (Conn.) Courant, the Orlando (Fla.) Sentinel, The (Columbia, S.C.) State, The Philadelphia Inquirer, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel and the St. Paul (Minn.) Pioneer-Press.

It was also picked up and reported on the AP wire.
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varrussword wrote:
Jophed,

The Onion and the Chicago tribune paradigms of reporting virtue.

Varus
How's it feel to be whooshed?


C'mon, Tricky. You know Varrus only believes what's on the infallible Drudge Report and WorldTribune Smiley: laugh
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#17 Jan 14 2005 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent
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1. geanocide of the entire muslim population in the middle east.


You keep referring to Geanocide in your posts, is this the mass extermination of Butch lesbians?

If so how many Butch lesbians are there in Iraq and how are you going to achieve this? It seems rather silly right now given the current state of things in Iraq, to be going house to house looking for Butch lesbians.
#18 Jan 14 2005 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
The burden of proof lies on the person making the allegations. This is something people like Dan Blather fail to recognize. You can say I have this document that says this but unless you can prove the document is authentic then it doesn't matter what it says because it's nothing more than an opinion.

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#19 Jan 14 2005 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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The burden of proof lies on the person making the allegations.
Or it lies in the tape-recorded words of Mr. Bush...Smiley: rolleyes


#20 Jan 14 2005 at 2:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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*Shrug*

99.99% of the people here consider an AP story to be an accurate source. The fact that you want to be pedantic really doesn't matter or discredit it.
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#21 Jan 14 2005 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
*Shrug*

99.99% of the people here consider an AP story to be an accurate source. The fact that you want to be pedantic really doesn't matter or discredit it.


pe·dan·tic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p-dntk)
adj.

Characterized by a narrow, often ostentatious concern for book learning and formal rules: a pedantic attention to details.


Are you sure you wish to characterize Okra as pendantic?

Hes got the narrow part down but book learning doesnt strike me as his strong point.

Edited, Fri Jan 14 14:15:04 2005 by bhodisattva
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#22 Jan 14 2005 at 2:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Main Entry: pe·dan·tic
Pronunciation: pi-'dan-tik
Function: adjective
1 : of, relating to, or being a pedant
2 : narrowly, stodgily, and often ostentatiously learned
3 : UNIMAGINATIVE, PEDESTRIAN


Main Entry: ped·ant
Pronunciation: 'pe-d&nt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, from Italian pedante
1 obsolete : a male schoolteacher
2 a : one who makes a show of knowledge b : one who is unimaginative or who unduly emphasizes minutiae in the presentation or use of knowledge c : a formalist or precisionist in teaching


Pretending to be intelligent by making up quasi-philosophical arguments about validity of the news source is being pedantic.
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#23 Jan 14 2005 at 2:32 PM Rating: Good
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Pendantic fits Gbaji to the tee but I would use the following phrase for Okra:

An obvious troll/sock that goes out of its way to get the libbies fired up by playing the part of the willfully ignorant.
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#24 Jan 14 2005 at 2:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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True, that.

But then no one takes Varrus seriously anyway. It's just amusing to spend an hour making him look like an idiot. Getting worked up over him is like getting worked up over To+em, Moe, Stok, etc.

I promise though, next time I respond to a Gbaji manifesto, I'll be sure to call him pedantic Smiley: laugh

Edited, Fri Jan 14 14:46:41 2005 by Jophiel
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#25 Jan 14 2005 at 2:48 PM Rating: Default
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Wasnt it also Bush that commented during the debates that the media should not be taken seriously.

I find it so funny that during his administration president Bush has made most of American do a flip on the media in terms of taking it seriously.

So now we live in a country where if the media dig up something truly bad on on anyone in Bushes circle, he can just shrug it off and talk about how the media are all liberal and dont know what there talking about, to which the public will take his word for it.

I wonder what Mr. Bushs crown will look like in a few years when he decided to change this country to a feudal system.

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Getting worked up over him is like getting worked up over To+em, Moe, Stok, etc.
Which is the same as getting worked up over Jophiel, Pickleprince, bhodi, Smasharoo, etc. Smiley: tongue

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