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#1 Jan 13 2005 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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A divided U.S. Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that federal judges no longer have to abide by controversial 18-year-old mandatory sentencing guidelines, saying that the consideration of factors not presented to jurors violates a defendant’s right to a fair trial.

The ruling was a blow for the Justice Department, which had defended the constitutionality of the federal sentencing guidelines that now apply to about 64,000 criminal defendants each year. Thousands of cases nationwide have been on hold pending Wednesday's ruling, in which the court was split 5-4 on two different aspects of the case.

The high court ruled that its decision in June, which struck down a similar sentencing system used in Washington state for violating a defendant's constitutional rights, also applies to the federal guidelines.

Guidelines now advisory, not mandatory
Justice Stephen Breyer said in the court's opinion on one aspect of the ruling that the guidelines are no longer mandatory, making them only advisory for the sentencing judge.

If the judge chooses to use the sentencing guidelines to impose a longer sentence, an appeals court could overturn the sentence if it determines the application was unreasonable.

In two drug cases before the Supreme Court a judge imposed greater sentences under the guidelines, based on the judge's determination of a fact that was not found by the jury or admitted by the defendant.

The guidelines, long criticized by criminal justice reform advocates for imposing overly harsh sentences on a mandatory basis, set rules for federal judges in calculating what punishment to give a defendant and attempt to reduce wide disparities in sentences for the same crime. They tell judges which factors can lead to a lighter sentence and which ones can result in a longer sentence.

Breyer said Congress could act next.

"Ours, of course, is not the last word: The ball now lies in Congress' court. The national legislature is equipped to devise and install, long-term, the sentencing system compatible with the Constitution that Congress judges best for the federal system of justice," he wrote.

The Justice Department had appealed to the Supreme Court and defended the federal guidelines, arguing the federal system had been thrown into disarray by the ruling in June.

Justice Department ‘disappointed’
"We're disappointed in the ruling and we are currently reviewing it. We will have more to say later," said Justice Department spokesman Mark Corallo.


The cases before the court involved two cases involving men convicted on drug charges in Wisconsin and Maine.

In siding with the two men, the court opened the door to thousands of claims by other defendants. But Justice John Paul Stevens said that not all of them will get new sentencing hearings. Judges must sort through the claims to determine which defendants have current appeals on the subject, he said.

The divided ruling took longer than expected. Justices had put the issue on a fast track, scheduling special arguments on the first day of their nine-month term in October. Most court watchers expected a ruling before the holidays.

Defense lawyers and prosecutors had been anxiously awaiting the ruling.

"The whole federal criminal law system is operating in a state of suspended animation," said Jeffrey Fisher, a Seattle attorney who argued last year's sentencing case. People have been waiting "for the shoe to drop so we can start grappling with the hard issues in the aftermath."

The cases are United States v. Booker, 04-104, and United States v. Fanfan, 04-105.
#2 Jan 13 2005 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good
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Wow... this could be a HUGE step forward in liberalization for a lot of American laws. Especially those related to drug posession... maybe with Bush spending so much time pressuring Canada not to liberalize their laws nationally, he missed the ball in his own court?
#3 Jan 13 2005 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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#4 Jan 13 2005 at 1:01 PM Rating: Default
So let's be even softer on criminals than we already are. Yep, this will work perfectly. Shoot, let's just make Rape a misdemenor, and reduce Murder to a class D felony.
#5 Jan 13 2005 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
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however when I first read the title the SoD song popped into my head to.

Edited, Thu Jan 13 13:08:32 2005 by bhodisattva
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#6 Jan 13 2005 at 1:14 PM Rating: Decent
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yeah, Serj needs to stop being all folky with his Armenian obessions and start getting S0D to release another ******* album.
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#7 Jan 13 2005 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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ABombiNation wrote:
So let's be even softer on criminals than we already are. Yep, this will work perfectly. Shoot, let's just make Rape a misdemenor, and reduce Murder to a class D felony.

No, you tard, this ruling prevents things like mandatory year-long sentences for simple marijuana possession, or treating a gram of crack the same as 10 grams of coke. Check out the info at Drug Policy Alliance if you want to lean what you're talking about.
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#8REDACTED, Posted: Jan 13 2005 at 2:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sounds good
#9 Jan 13 2005 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
This will create a disaster for the court systems and the tax payers. Welcome to millions spent on appeals and new sentencing hearings.

If we didn't have enough ways to spend our tax dollars.

Edited, Thu Jan 13 14:29:01 2005 by Redyne
#10 Jan 14 2005 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
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it is a good thing. as gitslayer said, a guy will no longer end up in prison for 20,000 years because he had a few hits of LSD on him. that is a good thing.

it gives judges more power to sentence based on circumstances, which is a good thing to me. zero tolerance policies (which is what a MMS is) that never take details into consideration suck. it is why 5 year olds with a pair or scissors get arrested as well as 14 year old girls who take an aspirin at school because they are on their period who end up expelled.

there are still minimum and maximum penalties. no one is going to kill someone and be back on the streets a week later. infact many are afraid it will allow judges to instate harsher penalties.
#11 Jan 14 2005 at 10:00 AM Rating: Default
It'll also create less overcrowded prisons, less guards to be employed, less appeals later on cause despite a guilty the sentence was lenient. No families on long term stateincome cause dad has been sentenced 6 months for just being a bit over the alcohol limit. It also gives judges more oppertunity to convict longer terms, like 5 years for the guy that was again caught seriously over the drinking limit.
#12 Jan 14 2005 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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This coming on the heels of the Supreme Court decision that the President can't hold people indefinitely without charges.

If the Court continues to make sane decisions like this, I might start having a little faith in the government again.
#13 Jan 14 2005 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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When does Dubya get to re-populate the SCOTUS with yes-men?
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#14 Jan 14 2005 at 1:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, Rehnquist will retire (or die) soon, but he's quite conservative so that'll be a wash. O'Connor will in all probability retire before the next election; she's a moderate Reagan appointee, so that might swing the court to the right a bit.
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#15 Jan 14 2005 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
Any of you bother to consider that mandatory minimum sentences were also in part established so that one offender (say, a black) could not be given a stiffer penalty than another offender (say, a white) simply because of the color of his skin?

The Supreme Court has, in its wisdom, just allowed any racist Judge anywhere in the US to sentence a black man to 30 years for stealing a lollypop while giving a white man six months for stealing a lollypop.

While you're all hailing the fact that drug offenders may get off with lighter sentences, please bear in mind that there are other effects of such a sweeping change. Good thing they left the possibility of re-introducing such laws in Congress' hands.
#16 Jan 14 2005 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
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The Supreme Court has, in its wisdom, just allowed any racist Judge anywhere in the US to sentence a black man to 30 years for stealing a lollypop while giving a white man six months for stealing a lollypop.



You are right, it was so much better when they would have both had to go to jail for 30 years.




Edited, Fri Jan 14 17:14:08 2005 by HeresJohnny
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#17 Jan 14 2005 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
ABombiNation wrote:
So let's be even softer on criminals than we already are. Yep, this will work perfectly. Shoot, let's just make Rape a misdemenor, and reduce Murder to a class D felony.


Think of all the murderers and sex offenders we let out on the streets while we continually incarcerate people for smoking a doob...
#18 Jan 14 2005 at 6:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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The possible repercussion I haven't heard discussed so far is that judges are likely to start allowing evidence and testimony that they would have suppressed before, when they had more discretion in the penalty phase.
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#19 Jan 14 2005 at 6:50 PM Rating: Good
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Any of you bother to consider that mandatory minimum sentences were also in part established so that one offender (say, a black) could not be given a stiffer penalty than another offender (say, a white) simply because of the color of his skin?

They could always have given stiffer penalties to a black man than a white, even when there was a minimum.


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