Government pamphlet on how to illegally immigrate to the US.Follow

Every person that has said: "Would you like fries with that?" is guilty of the same thing that you accuse used car salesmen of. A car salesman has a life where he must make his own check, if he slacks off at his job, he will feel it within 2 weeks. If you want to save money on cars, then find a good mechanic. Even if you had to get your transmission(pretty much the most expensive thing in the car) fixed every 2 years, your car would still be cheaper than a new honda civic for at least 5 years. When you buy a car, you are paying for the luxury of not having to repair it for at least 10k miles, and you are mistaking that as a necessity.

Get a bucket, dip it 'til the wheels fall off. A car with no problems is not only impossible, but it would be quite a luxury if it existed. If anything, blame the manufacturers for the rediculous depreciation ratio, faulty components, and price of cars. A wise man once said,"The cheapest and most economical car to have is the car you already own."

The difference with native Americans though, is that when the settlers arrived, they shared the land peacefully. That's where the nickname "noble savages" with "childlike innocence" came from.

Now I can't wait til the USA publishes a pamphlet on how to illegally emmigrate to Canada Then the pubbies can stop complaining, because we crazy left wingers will be out of your hair forever.

First off we took most of our country through force of arms, boo hoo. So did most of our European allies and no one ******* endlessly about there actions. Also try illegally cross into a European country they have real borders and they are strictly enforced. It is only when us evil Americans try and keep our own nation intact everyone has a problem with it. Also the fact remains we do not allow enough immigrants into the country each year. I can not be sure and yes I am lazy but the number I believe is near 100,000 a year. There are over 1 million crossing the border each year. In the last 5 years the number of illegals in California has tripled to near 2.5 million. If we enforced the laws and increased immigration we would not be in this mess.

Take a sociology class or two. The first European settlers in the continent of North America had an extremely good relationship. That's incredibly well documented. Don't believe that? You're alive in the US. I think that's proof enough.

Native Americans began acting more barbaric as their lands were taken. Fair enough... how would you feel if someone kicked you out of your home? Especially if they had signed a contract stating that it was your home.

How would you feel if they did that a few thousand times?

How would you feel if they still did that to this day in Mexico and Canada?

Good job Mr. WAP. I guess I wouldn't know what I'm talking about, being part Cherokee and all. That just makes me a Cannibalistic, warmongering, ignorant buffoon, right? I must have no clue about Native American history. After all, its not like we had to walk a trail of tears or anything. Oh wait, we did. You can take your bigotry, and ignorance, and...


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Though I agree immigration laws need to redone, they are not all useless. Limiting the number of people coming into the country is a good thing,
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they do not limit the number of people coming into this country.

all they are doing is making the people comming into this country "illegal".

they are here. they will keep coming here.

outlawing sex outside of marriage, adultry, is on the books to, but would you argue it should be enforced?

cant be done. same with immigration.

immigration MADE this country. embrace it, dont fight it. it is not a bad thing. the only problem with immigration is our laws governing it. change the laws. enforcing a bad law is stupid.

Fair enough. However, the tribes that the first permanent settlers encountered were extremely friendly. Hell, there were extremists on the mayflower who believed that Native Americans were the lost tribe of Isreael, who had walked the deserts so long that their skin had become permanently sunburnt.

This is also why in my statement I mentioned the FIRST tribes encountered. The more warlike tribes tended to inhabit the great plains/pacific coastal region. The eastern coast was largely populated by slightly more peacable tribes.

I consider myself qualified to talk about Euro-Indian relations out of blood, and because family pride has had me to quite a bit of studying my heritage. I've learned a lot.

I referred to the Cherokee trail of Tears because A) it was the Cherokee that did it, and B) the Cherokee were largely a completely peaceful tribe. They melded in with European society instead of fighting... but look what it got them... A forced road march which killed a third of the population.

"And this years parade, the floats are constructed entirely out of broken treaties" - Best Simpsons line ever

Yeah immigration laws dont limit the number of people coming to the USA. What you are confusing is immigration laws, and enforcement of border security.

That is why the need for some reform, border security is an issue. A greater portion of the funds for the war on terror needs to be used for border security. There is no reason to allow people not willing to follow the correct procedure into the country.

Actually immigration is a totally different issue and immigration much easier to enforce. Especially since people that came here leagally have their identification on file, illegals dont. Border patrols also find several people illegally crossing the border. The problem is enforcing the laws to prevent repeat offenders with out infringing human rights.

You are again showing great ignorance in what you are talking about. I do emmbrace immigrtion, and support the rights of those that leagally came across the border. I would have to since I am an immigrant, you moron, hence the reference of being at INS at 3 in the morning to get in and know the paper work is not that hard. As I said it is easy to get visas, RA cards are harder but permanent. I know many people that came from Mexico from both visas and RA cards, I also know several people from even more third world countries then Mexico that came here. Maybe you should know something about what you are talking about before you spout of this nonsense and prove your ignorance and that you spout off like a 10 year old that over heard half of what mommy and daddy were talking about.

BTW you never answered how the economy is to handle the influx of people. You even know what an economy is? How about where all the people are going to live? You say they live that way because they have to because they came illegally, well did you ever think that if the border was open that anyone coming from Mexico would have to live that way any way? The poverty rate and unemployment rate would skyrocket, inflation would be out of control, in the end those that came here would be no better off then they were in Mexico.