Government pamphlet on how to illegally immigrate to the US.Follow

I think it's more of an embarassment to the Mexican government that they urge their citizens to leave, than it is any sort of security threat or cause of an immigration spike.

Maybe Mexico wants to become a new State of the USA?

Where the hell would we put that extra star in the Flag, though?

Doubtful. As of now they can enjoy the benefits of just being next to us without the responsibility.

Look at Puerto Rico. Now they've got a good thing going.

ALL of us, with the exception of decendants of american indians, are the decendants of immigrants. ALL of us.

hey bob, look, a garden of eden.

wow, tim, lets move in to it.

good idea bob. then lets put up a fence so we dont have to share it with anyone else.

yea tim. then we can make some club rules, like, you gotta do what we say if you want inside.....OUR.....garden.

it is a good thing our ancestors can not see what has become of their decendants. it would bring a tear to their eye to see their childen have become the oppressive tyrants they risked everything they had to escape.

i actually agree with Bush on this subject, all be it for differant reasons. it is stupid to make honest, hard working people trying to make a better life for their family live in the shadows like criminals, and leave them open to be exploited by americans looking for slave labor.

if they are not criminals form wher they came from, make them legal. if they can live here for a few years by our rules without committing a crime, GIVE them citizenship. we can use all teh hard working people we can find in this country.

hell, lets swap them, say 20 immigrants for each lawyer, realtor, car sales man, politician, from this country. mabe we can turn this country into a hard working country, instead of a country full of people looking for ways to get rich off of OTHER peoples hard work.....mabe we could even turn the tide of outsourcing if we did.

For two years of my life I sold used Chevy's and then Honda. The fact that you made such a close minded remark makes me dislike you very much.

If you ever knew anyone in the business you would realize that about 85% of the sales guys are people who were fired from jobs they worked in for years. I met so many middle aged guys who had been working in construction or some other field of work for most of there lives and when they had nothing else left they took a chance to make a better living for themselves and there family.

If you think working 14-16 hrs a day 6 days every work talking to people who hate your guts due to stereotypes then you need to get a reality check.

mabe we could even turn the tide of outsourcing if we did.
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I want you to walk up to every single person that lost their job due to outsourcing and tell them if they had worked harder they would not of lost their job. You'd be a bloody pulp after about the third person.

Hard work has 0 to do with outsourcing, outsourcing is all about who will do the same job for a lot less money. You wanna get pissed at outsourcing get pissed at the Congress who makes it easier to pay people in other countries rather than people in our country to do the same job, they even get tax breaks for outsourcing.

It wasn't a suggestion, it was an honest question. Thank you for clarifying your position.

I basically agree with you, I wouldn't care if we increased the INS 100x and allowed for a flow of 3 million legal immigrants a year.

What pisses me off are laws on the books that aren't enforced. Yes, perhaps the law needs changing, but until then it should be respected, by both illegals and enforcement agencies. I detest both political parties for completely ignoring this issue, and detest any President(s) who give out the routine 5-10 year "amnesty". I also detest politicians who want to give illegals the same rights as citizens--such as school tuition, welfare, and driver's licenses. If we care so much about them, we should change the freaking law as you say so they have these rights legally.

Unenforced laws make me want to explode things.

Like these?

Alabama-

* It is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while operating a vehicle.
* Dominoes may not be played on Sunday.
* It is illegal to wear a fake mustache that causes laughter in church

Are you saying they don't enforce the "don't drive while blindfolded" law?

Yeah, but I'd hope they'd vigorously and repeatedly prosecute me for it. ;)

Nadenu--yeah, that's a reason it's a good thing I'm not a cop, I'd feel duty-bound to enforce even dumb laws. (which should be stricken from the books of course.)

An oldie but a goodie: [url=www.dumblaws.com]Dumb laws[/url]

Edited, Thu Jan 6 15:15:27 2005 by Palpitus

Since you have never actually worked in the car sales market your pretty much talking out of your a s s.

In the average week as a car salesmen you will work 8-14 hours daily six days a week. You dont make salary, you just commision for what you sell.

The average amount of cars sold by a single person since 9/11 is around 10 cars a month.

The days of old where car salesmen made huge money died out in the last decade. I usually made an average of $2000 profit on each vehicle I sold. On a $15,000 vehicle that is around a 11% profit. Now the fun starts.

Well hondas are honda certified so you can take out about $750 of that total gross just in the cost that was spent in making the car nice and shiny with all working parts.

So now the Gross is $1250

As a salesmen you got 25% of total profit. That means on that deal I made around $300. Thats if financing doesnt cut the deal in the front to make it so the back makes all the money.

$300 x 10 = $3000 total

That is what MOST salespeople make doing this job. If we had been working on minimum wage we would have made around double this amount for the amount of hours you work.

The average sales person spends half his day on the phone and then spends the rest of it hoping that hell get lucky enough to run into someone that wants to buy a car.

Now if you think car sales people rip you off then why dont you go see what that new $25 shirt you bought actually cost to make. Because on average clothes have a 300% markup.

But I guess in your world it doesnt make sense to actually sell a car or truck and make a profit.





BTW: The people that actually make money in that business are the people in the back that sell you warranties and such. Most of the things they offer you are garbage and they sell it to you for around double if not triple the price the company bought it for.