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#27 Jan 03 2005 at 4:48 PM Rating: Decent

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While I still think that we should have made the contribution that we did (it's only... what, $1 or so per American?) I feel kind of ripped off that these whiners, in addition to the people who are honestly grateful to us, will be recieving the money.

Just a point of clarification.. it was a UN relief official (and apparently the NY Times) that said the U.S. was being cheap with the $35M donation. Not the victims themselves.

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#28 Jan 03 2005 at 4:55 PM Rating: Excellent

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DanFitzGer wrote:

Just a point of clarification.. it was a UN relief official (and apparently the NY Times) that said the U.S. was being cheap with the $35M donation. Not the victums themselves.

Yes, it was a UN official, but in response to the $15M offer (the $35M came minutes before the Bush press conference)

Like I said, all the initial offers were disproportionately low at first, but as the full extent of the crisis became clear, most (if not all) countries raised their game.

Private donations took no notice of the political stance of the governments of the affected countries, but remembered that the victims were just Moms, Dads, and kids like us. About $3 per man, woman and child here in UK; I assume similar in USA (no intention to check).

They need food, water, shelter, medicine and our thoughts (prayers for those who believe).

Give more.

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#29 Jan 03 2005 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent

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Doesn't MicroSuck employees have like..an expiration date? I hear that they fire their employees after a couple years to keep the new blood coming in.

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#30 Jan 04 2005 at 8:55 AM Rating: Decent

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Was just told the death toll has increased to an estimated 140000 people.
The USNS Mercy is heading out there right now, and the Comfort may be following it soon.
We've been scrabbling like mad to get stuff ready to be sent for support for the last few days. I just look at it and think "this is'nt going to be anywhere near enough".
Anyone have an esimate on how much has been donated in total? Or what the end toll is supposed to be?

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#31 Jan 05 2005 at 4:07 PM Rating: Default

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Nope. I just don't have any misplaced trust in an organization which places a serial murderer in charge of the UN commission on genocide or a Third World incompetent who nepotically puts his embezzling son in charge of billions of dollars from a program he worked diligently to keep running. And now we are supposed to believe that the UN won't skim 40-60% off the top of all that aid relief for "organizational purposes and administration costs?"
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rofl,,

the oil for food scandel is an "allegation", not a fact.

this "allogation" was made twice. once when the U.N. voted against going into Iraq, and again when the U.N. finnished a commisioned report finding the U.S.A. had no justification for going into Iraq.

remember the "allegation" Kerry didnt earn all his purple hearts in combat when military service was an issue with the election?

you bought it. without the first single piece of evidence.

YOU are a true american. wooohoo, four more years......

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#33 Jan 05 2005 at 4:37 PM Rating: Excellent

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#34 Jan 05 2005 at 4:45 PM Rating: Excellent

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For those of you who believe in being Christian only to your fellow Christians, here's a little food for thought:

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Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

So, you know. You can pay lip service, or you can put your money where your Bible is. Up to you.

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#35 Jan 05 2005 at 6:05 PM Rating: Default

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SamiraX wrote:

For those of you who believe in being Christian only to your fellow Christians, here's a little food for thought:

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Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

So, you know. You can pay lip service, or you can put your money where your Bible is. Up to you.

Good shi[i][/i]t, man.

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#37 REDACTED, Posted: Jan 06 2005 at 1:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Burn the witch!

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#38 Jan 06 2005 at 8:06 AM Rating: Decent

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It's funny how a large percentage of the victims were muslim, yet all the muslim countries have donated jack **** compared to what the US, a 'christian' country, has. Then we are called 'cheap' by spinning the facts and not including private donations and operating costs.

It depends--the US economy is so much more massive than that of Islamic countries, our $350 million is "easier" to part with.

Personally I don't see the need for reducing aid to such dry statistics--if a country is making an honest effort to help, if they're able, that's all I'm looking for, and I applaud all the nations who have, certainly including the US...but since you're trashing Islamic countries, here are some statistics which you may find interesting. Aid list, sorted by total, by GDP, and per capita:

http://blogger.xs4all.nl/marcone/archive/2005/01/03/19687.aspx

Some highlights of aid per capita:

Top 5:

Norway: $39.76
Australia: $38.39
Qatar (Islamic): $29.75
Denmark: $14.19
Sweden: $8.90

Predominately Islamic nations:

Qatar: $29.75
UAE: $7.92
Kuwait: $4.43
Bahrain: $2.95
Saudi Arabia: $1.16
Libya:$0.36
Algeria: $0.06
Turkey: $0.02

Two largest donors by gross amount:

Japan: $3.93
USA: $1.19

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#39 Jan 13 2005 at 7:37 PM Rating: Good

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What the hell has Indonesia done for the world?

Clove Cigarettes.
Mmmmmm....

****! Djarums may be hard to get soon... better start stockpiling now... :P

Oh yeah, Indonesia has also gifted the world these goodies:
-natural latex rubber
-really fancy resorts

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It's funny how a large percentage of the victims were muslim, yet all the muslim countries have donated jack sh*t compared to what the US, a 'christian' country, has.

1. The rest of the Muslim community in general thinks that the Indonesians are almost as bad as the Turks (and that's pretty bad). They also fear that Indonesia is the world's most populous predominantly Muslim nation, yet is not Arab. It's like bible banging southerners flaming Mexicans - most are Christian, but they're still 'different'. Arabs fear Indonesian dominance of their faith. I've heard that same sentiment from non-devout Kuwaitis, Egyptians and Pakistanis - so it must be at least somewhat true.

2. Thanks for putting quotes around 'christian'. Others here know that I'd debate to the end that this country is not meant to be referred to by any faith (as the freedom of religion principles negate that as being a 'correct' way to refer to us). However since it is true that it could be argued that there are more 'technically christian' people in the US than any other faith, we I suppose are a 'predominantly christian' nation, but clearly not a christian nation. *smirk*

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#40 Jan 13 2005 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent

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What the hell has Indonesia done for the world? The fact that they cant handle their own problems proves their a weak country. When 9/11 happened hey weren't donating anything to us, I believe the sentiment was something along the lines of "They deserved it." If Countries want to be countries they need to be self-reliant rather than dependant on other countrie's donations.

Does Indonesia (or anyone) have to have done something "for the world" to make it worth helping? Some people in the world need help. Agree with their political/religious views or don't, thats not important. Not a single major religion does not teach goodwill toward others. That includes even people who do not agree with you (barring inane fundamentalist readings). If you insist on getting something back from helping someone, or getting something before helping someone, maybe you need to get a tiny bit of a grip.

A small donation (per capita) from the United States will help millions of people. You will notice little to no difference in your daily life because of this donation, yet it can easily mean the CONTINUATION of someone in that regions life. Forget that you don't like Indonesia. Do you like people?

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#41 Jan 14 2005 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent

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SamiraX wrote:

For those of you who believe in being Christian only to your fellow Christians, here's a little food for thought:

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Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

So, you know. You can pay lip service, or you can put your money where your Bible is. Up to you.

Thank God I'm an atheist.

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#42 Jan 14 2005 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good

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Thank God I'm an atheist.

that deserves a Smiley: clap

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