Things I noticed when listening to GW speakFollow

When asked about a area where he has performed poorly in, be it Social security, economy, war in iraq, foreign relations, job growth, deficit, no child left behind, health care, environment etc. You will get any combination of the following

1. Recognition that he understand the problem either by saying so or giving that understanding and thoughtful look with the silence.

2. Lines like 'We are working hard, we are doing our best' etc always use the inclusive statements so as to make the listener feel as he is a party and involved and that GW's goals are his/her goals as well.

3. Make joking comments which dismisses/deflect but does not outright answer criticism.

4.Hints of unspecified threats that only he and his head on style can confront.

5. Patriotic saying such as "God Bless America", or expounding Liberty and Democracy and Apple Pies.

Plus you have a lot of Right wing laying the groundwork for a way of thinking

Feel free to add any of you own, but those are the basics of his public speaking minus the factured sentences and broken english.

I believe there are already several posts along this line already. Like one out of every 2. So find another one, and stop creating new ones.

Well, there is also the choking on a pretzel to a degree that required hospitalization while not yet (an assumption on my part) senile, his obvious ignorance of common-knowledge policy (American Indians) and his poor grammar (Is our children...)and vocabulary (nuclear).

But maybe he'll be one of those Presidents that people carp about in office but then go on to admire for their humanitarian work, like Carter or Clinton, or like his dad--oh wait.

Hm.

Give me someone who is plain spoken and yet tells the truth over someone who speaks in nuances and measured cadence yet lies continually.

In the first instance, we have GW Bush; in the second, we have Kerry/Clinton/Pelosi/Daschel/Reid/Kennedy- hell, just about any Democrat you want to name.

I think that you have to realize that politics is a career. Speakly plainly and telling the clear truth are not job essentials. In fact I think that they value double talk, but double talk and evasion does not always maen that a person is lying.

Because I want to beat Gbaji:


Its not just his horrible use of the English language that makes even people from the deep south go "Mwah"? That is well know, what Im trying to point out here is that if you look at how he responds that he has a set routine that he uses that has been put together and hammered into his skull.

When he is dodging a hot issue look for these signals.

He is a mediocre president on par or even below Gerald Ford who has a crew of people around him who understand the majority of middle America.

He invokes christian ethics, isolationism, patriotism, nationalism and the GI joe/cowboy ethic that the majority of the voting populace grew up with during the Cold War.

He pushes his plans and links it not only to himself but to the American people, his goals are your goals. He then presents anyone who attacks his plans as Un-American and not only attacking him but attacking the ideals to which he has linked himself and the United States.

He presents an "Us against them" mind set. He presents an image that he is down home country, he might not be a wordsmith but is a straight gunner, an image that America can identify and sympathize with.

Now that you sympathize and associate with him and have the impression that he stands for what you stand for he then goes to paint the picture that his opposition is the opposite. This is most obvious in the ways in which they attacked and protrayed Kerry in the Media. He was wishy-washy, against our troops, a coward in combat, wordy, raising taxes, turn your son gay liberal.

They could have attacked him for a number of other things. However they chose these specific issues because it played to the same appeal they were already using to support Bush, and covered up Bushes weaknesses.

I am decisive even though im not always right but its better than being wishy washy, Im not the best speaker but this Kerry guy uses big words and acts all smart and better than you, I have no combat experience and Kerry does so we will attack his credibility through a front organization.


Now this is a masterful use of PR, Ive shown how they have used this before in my post on the whole Estate Tax issue and how they package an plan that actually was detrimental to the average american and got them to suppport it.

http://allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4&mid=1099600575620968380#1099604111150023078

But when you get past the PR and the excuses you have a mediocre President who has an amazing PR team, who has convinced America that he is one of them when he actually comes from an extremely wealthy East Coast family, who has plays on Americas fears, who while appearing to be for the little guy is actually supporting big business, who has nothing but excuses as to why his first four years on office had no outstanding achievements and a mountain of failure and mistakes.

You have a War that was entered into on perhaps the worst intel in the history of the United States and you dont question it and the people who get you there? Sure you are there now and have to stick it out but this is you Commander and Chief, and he leads the country into a costly and expensive war with large US casualties and no end in sight and you dont think that bears criticism?

He has consistently been tied to abuses by big business be it Enron or Halliburton or a number of others and you dont question it but when Koffi Annan's son is shown that he might possibly be involved with the Oil food scandal you use it as a way to negate the UN and deflect international criticism.

This is a president who has performed poorly and has nothing but excuses, a President who if you look at even the few successes that he has claimed in 4 years in office they arent really successes. But you continue to support him, not becuase he is a good President but because you have been conditioned to see criticism of him as an attack on America and yourself and the ideals you hold dear.

Let me tell you something, it is your duty as a citizen of the United States of America to question what your leaders do. To criticize, to agree with the good and tell them when they are f[b][/b]ucking up. That is why the founding fathers went out of there way to make sure you had the first amendment.

Interesting to note that Bush is not a plain speaker, and he does not tell the truth.

At the very best, he relays lies and misleads Congress while no one knows what he is actually saying.

All the while, he bankrupts everything he touches...including the US economy.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Face it, people ask questions they hope will corner the person they ask. The media practically jacks off at night thinking about a politician saying something they can hammer them senselessly with the next morning. Face it, thats what sells. George Bush simply uses evasive answeres because he knows the game. He's certainly not the first person to do this *cough* Daschle..

excuse me

He's certainly not the first person to do this and he wont be the last. After all, you have TWO parties with ALL the political power in this country. Did you expect NOT to have some kind of prepared talking head as a leader? This is what you get, and don't think that it's only the Republicans either.

Edited, Fri Dec 31 15:39:39 2004 by Lefein

*cough* thats the first time Ive mentioned the BJ Bhod...

and

I voted for Kerry..

My whole point is that no matter who we vote for all we're going to get is canned answers until we elect someone (or have the balls to elect someone) completely honest and forthwright. But more than likely we'll never get the chance because all the money and power is plunged into a dichotomy that serves noone but its own interests. Bush is a symptom, not the disease.

Edited, Fri Dec 31 16:24:43 2004 by Lefein

I edited it to add more I stand by all my claims. Clinton talks sideways, Bush Sr. talks sideways, Bush jr talks sidways. We get what we elect. Nothing chickensh[/u]it about that. I have no problem with calling ANYONE out for hwat they are.

You wanna know who I wish would be President? Obama, that guy knows where his nuts hang and god bless him for it.

**** Lefein first of all I wasnt talking about the Tsunamai, second of all I stated in another post that I didnt give a rats *** if Bush gave nothing or a billion. So stay on topic.

I am talking about Bush and the misrepresentation and false image that he gives and how people buy it all while he is ******** them over. I was pointing out how if you pay attention in the news you can see the formula.

Quit responding with Tsunamai, Clinton, how politicians have lied and how you are not a Bush fan despite the fact that you back him up left right and center. If you have something to say about the actual thread get on with it if you want to talk Freak tidal waves goto USA USA USA.

Adiemus.

And whose sock are you?

How does getting a bigger tax cut **** them? How is the economy suffering? Who is it that is getting ******* How are they getting ******* I keep hearing about how bad Bush is going to be for the economy and all this yet a week after the election results I saw nothing but green in the stock market. The housing sector is still keeping momentum and oil prices are gradually dropping as well. Unemployment is also leaking off, and the crime rate is still low. So where is this doom and gloom? I'm not syaing it isn't an impossibility, but conjecture is the shield of debate that crumbles first.