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#27 Dec 16 2004 at 11:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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I am sure that is not a decision you would take lightly. It would not affect our relationship. However I intend to continue making gay jokes.


Smiley: lol

Ok, I'm not a parent, but I'll bite.

1. Dad/Mom Suzy and I where thinking of going to a party on Saturday and we where thinking of trying drugs.

Well, been there done that. I would tell him my own personal experience on the matter, how unhappy I was...and a whole heap of other personal stuff...then, of course, the health hazard reason not to...hopefully, it should be enough to keep him away. I'd also emphasize how proud I am of him for going up to me and asking me about it versus doing drugs behind my back.


2. Mom/Dad Suzy and I are getting to a point in our relationship where we are trying to decide are condoms the right choice or should she use the pill?

Obviously, after a certain age, you can't control what a kid does. I'd rather it be at home than hiding in the back seat of his car. Instead of me telling him anything, I would go with him to do actual research on the matter and turn it into a whole learning experience. This will demonstrate to him that though I'm his dad, I'm also still human.


3. Dad/Mom I was thinking of going to a meeting with a bunch of my friends on wednesday night. I know we have never discussed this issue before, but is it all right if I go to church?

Why ask? Of course this is allowed. I'm not going to force my kid into anything at all. If he's willing to practice what I practice, then cool. If he wants to do his own thing, then cool. On the other hand, he isn't allowed to NOT like cheese.


4. Dad/Mom I'm getting these funny feelings everytime I'm around george, I mean there like more intense than when I thought suzy was the girl for me? What if I was gay?

Easy anwser...then your gay! Your sexual prefrences doesn't change whom you are as a person. If you go and tell me that your an *******, then I'd be upset...but liking ******** is totally up to you! (Somewhat of a pun. XD) Just be ready to go through some serious discrimination...but know that you got my 100% support!



5. Dad/Mom the condom broke when Suzy and I where at the park awhile ago and now Suzy thinks she's pregnant, what should I do or should she get an abortion?

Why the F[b][/b]UCK were you doing that at the park?! Didn't I give you the ok to do that here? At any rate, I'd then calm down and ask him what he wants to do. I'd tell him what are the pros and cons to both keeping it and getting an abortion/day after pill...then work it out from there.



I think that pretty much covers what I'd do...but, since I'm of cuban decendand...just incorporate alot of cuss words and yelling into everything you just read.
#28 Dec 16 2004 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
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If your kid asks you whether it's okay to try out some drugs at a party, I don't think you should say "Yes, dear, as long as it's only the semi-dangerous crack stuff". I know some of you smoke the stuff, but it's a bad idea giving your kid the impression that it's okay.


If you completely destroy your credibility by demonstrating your ignorance of the issue they will simply never speak to you about it again.
#29 Dec 16 2004 at 11:34 AM Rating: Default
I see your point, Chtulhu, but smoking is bad, no matter what. Either you become a crack head or a controlled crack head, but none the less, you will die from cancer if unlucky.

If you don't think it's bad to smoke, crack or regular, I would suggest you let your kid try it out at home, where you can control it. I think everyone remember their first time as something unpleasant.

RolloX, I know what you mean. I was brought up to believe that Catholicism was the one and only belief. Unfortunately, my grandparents are very Catholic, and by very I mean it. They don't want to visit us because they would rather go to church and we wouldn't get any Christmas presents, but they would donate large amounts to the local church. It made me rebel against the Church and I started reading LaVey's books.
#30 Dec 16 2004 at 11:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm going to answer all these as if he was age 16.

1. Dad/Mom Suzy and I where thinking of going to a party on Saturday and we where thinking of trying drugs.

What kind of drugs? (Assuming it's something pretty harmless like pot) Are you aware of the consequences of being stopped by the police while on drugs or in possession? Do you have the resources to pay whatever fines, court costs, etc you incur? If it comes down me to pay something, I'm going to raise the money first by selling your car/video game/TV/etc.

2. Mom/Dad Suzy and I are getting to a point in our relationship where we are trying to decide are condoms the right choice or should she use the pill?

The right choice for what? Birth control? Disease prevention? Are you willing to trust her to take full responsibility for your birth control to the point of raising a child if she messes up? Is she willing to trust you the same way? Are you both willing to deal with a pregnancy? Obviously the best measure is to use both.

3. Dad/Mom I was thinking of going to a meeting with a bunch of my friends on wednesday night. I know we have never discussed this issue before, but is it all right if I go to church?

Fine by me. What church are we talking about? I look forward to meeting the pastor/minister/rabbi/coven priestess/witch doctor/etc. Faith is a personal issue and I respect you to develop your own but I'm always available to give my thoughts and opinions on questions or idea you might have.

4. Dad/Mom I'm getting these funny feelings everytime I'm around george, I mean there like more intense than when I thought suzy was the girl for me? What if I was gay?

What if you were? It wouldn't make much difference to me. But you're 16 and your hormones are in full swing right now. Experimentation with same sex partners is fairly common at your age. You'll probably be better off not to make any final decisions regarding your sexuality for a couple years yet. If you are, however, I'll continue to support you.

5. Dad/Mom the condom broke when Suzy and I where at the park awhile ago and now Suzy thinks she's pregnant, what should I do or should she get an abortion?

First of all, you need to get Suzy in on this conversation as well as her parents. What you and I decide isn't worth a whole bunch unless she decides the same thing. Having you was the best thing to happen to me but I wasn't 16 and I was more capable of raising you, both financially and emotionally. I doubt you're ready for that but, if Suzy makes the choice to keep the baby, you're going to be the father and you're going to have to be serious about it. If she makes the choice to have an abortion, I expect you'll pay your share and support her. But it's no use going too deeply into either of those or adoption until we get everyone involved.
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#31 Dec 16 2004 at 1:25 PM Rating: Excellent
1.)Take them to the crackhead park off of MLK street for the day. Let them get a nice feel for the place.

2.)Tell them to use both.

3.)Become Jack's sense of total disbielf.

4.)Buy him a Elton John Cd.

5.)Umm.. Boot-to-the-head, followed by another boot-to-the- head. Wait a couple of weeks and have her take a test. If the test is negative, boot-to-the-head followed by a-boot-the-***** If the test is positive Then take them both over to "meet her Parents" (no boot-to-the-head required here).
#32 Dec 16 2004 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good
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Don't have kids?
#33 Dec 16 2004 at 2:26 PM Rating: Default
1. No you can't go to the party, drugs will F up your life, and if I ever catch you doing drugs I will F up your life.

2. (If 17) Use both. (If like 14-15) Wait till your older, but if you decide to ignore me anyways, use both.

3. <I already go to church so when I am married and have kids they will to>

4. <If his christian upbringing does not help him stop thinking that he is gay then I dont know what I would do>

5. Haha you ******** now you gotta take care of it if she is pregnant, go get her tested and if she is then I guess your life is screwed son, me and mom will help you along the way but U will do most of the work. Start looking for a job son.
#34 Dec 16 2004 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
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A civil discussion in the Asylum? Wow, I have to make my first post here then. (Opinions/advice may vary drastically, the following reflects only my views)

1.) Pot, it doesn't fund terrorists or drown Mr. Cuddles, Suzy's little tabby, so go for it. Watch out for heroin or crack or other things, I've seen what those did to my friends and it isn't pretty.

2.)Use both if you are worried about pregnancy, plain and simple.

3.) (Cults are tough to define, but I would say something like Heavens Gate, where people are hazed and usually end up dead at their leaders behest are what cults are, that being said). As long as it isn't a sicko cult or Satanic Church type deal, go for it. Nothing wrong with spirituality. However, you don't have to go to organized religious services to be someone who is highly spiritual.

4.) You're gay? So. You're straight? So. Being attracted to the opposite sex doesn't mean you're a bad person, doesn't mean you are special either. If someone says, "Hey, I'm not gay, please stop asking", respect their rights. Hitting on someone of the opposite sex in the same way is just as wrong, its sexual harassment. Just be happy however you choose to live your life.

5.) Coming from both my religious and scientific background, I feel abortion of anything after the act has been done is murder. Condoms or the pill prevent the life from beginning in the first place, taking it once that first zygote is formed is the taking of an innocent life. If you feel that you have to be promiscuous at such an age, prepare to face responsibility for your actions, whether they are parenthood or STDs.

Ultimately it's your life to live, so live it to its fullest and remember to be happy. Just remember your actions have effects on more than just yourself, and you have to live with them whatever you do, good or bad.
#35 Dec 16 2004 at 2:40 PM Rating: Good
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1. Which drugs?

2. Use both.

3. Its okay if you go to church if you have vandalism in mind.

4. Buy him a hooker

5. Leave town and dont give Suzy your contact info. Oh and grats on scoring up Suzy, shes got a nice body on her , Boooya!!
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#36 Dec 16 2004 at 4:42 PM Rating: Default
Hmmm, I like Bhod's answer to #4 Seriously, I think I would buy him a hooker instead (and not tell him its a hooker so if any of those hormones tell him he likes the girl then let it be full steam ahead to the let down... Then get him another hooker or a neighbors daughter for dating)

Then again if that doesnt work, then Ill go to my backup plan of treating him like toxic waste.
#37 Dec 16 2004 at 6:18 PM Rating: Good
1. Dad/Mom Suzy and I where thinking of going to a party on Saturday and we where thinking of trying drugs.

I would tell them to use moderation in all drug use including alcohol, and also iterate the fact that they can have negative effects if abused.

2. Mom/Dad Suzy and I are getting to a point in our relationship where we are trying to decide are condoms the right choice or should she use the pill?

Use both.

3. Dad/Mom I was thinking of going to a meeting with a bunch of my friends on wednesday night. I know we have never discussed this issue before, but is it all right if I go to church?

It's fine. After this week, we'll go to a different church every week.

4. Dad/Mom I'm getting these funny feelings everytime I'm around george, I mean there like more intense than when I thought suzy was the girl for me? What if I was gay?

We will support you no matter where your life leads you.

5. Dad/Mom the condom broke when Suzy and I where at the park awhile ago and now Suzy thinks she's pregnant, what should I do or should she get an abortion?

That's something that you and Suzy should work out.

#38laviont, Posted: Dec 16 2004 at 6:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 1. What drugs? Let me show you this website. Write a report on all the ones you wanted to try, and tell me the pros and cons, and if or if not you changed your mind. Tell me the dosage, the variety, duration, and environment. If you mess up the wonderful genetically superior brain and body I have endowed you with, I will be thoroughly dissappointed. I will offer my advice on each variety of drug.
#39 Dec 16 2004 at 7:45 PM Rating: Decent
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With 3 girls and the youngest having just turn 18 I've already had a chance to have these confersations. No matter how much you think about what you may say, you can only try to be prepared to to love them no matter what they have done.

1. Dad/Mom Suzy and I where thinking of going to a party on Saturday and we where thinking of trying drugs.

Look, I know your Dad grows his own, but I never was happy that he would risk everything we work for, just to get high. As for other drugs, just look at your uncle and how messed up his life is. Do you really want to risk your future? As for myself I've found that there far more ways to enjoy life without drugs. I don't even like getting tipsy. Yes I do have a beer or drink every once in awhile, but I'm careful and I gave up pot when I realized how important it meant that I take care of you.

2. Mom/Dad Suzy and I are getting to a point in our relationship where we are trying to decide are condoms the right choice or should she use the pill?

As I always tell you, I rather you wait until your 18 and more mature, but if you must start now, please practice safe sex and always use a codom. They aren't 100% protection for prevention from getting pregnant or getting STD's so it's important that she use the pill or get the Deprov shot every 3 months.

3. Dad/Mom I was thinking of going to a meeting with a bunch of my friends on wednesday night. I know we have never discussed this issue before, but is it all right if I go to church?

I would want to know what they know about this church and then remind them to not let anyone try to push them into joining. They learn about different religions, in Sunday School and we always told them they are free to believe in anything or not. My only concern is that they aren't push into acceptiong a religion by friends or a church group for thier salvation.

4. Dad/Mom I'm getting these funny feelings everytime I'm around george, I mean there like more intense than when I thought suzy was the girl for me? What if I was gay?

This wasn't a problem as they grew up knowing their father (my ex) is transgendered and I supported him in living as a woman. They march along side her at the Gay Pride Parade and one came along to lobby Congress for transgender rights. So when they did question their own sexuality not only did they have our support, but they where encourage to go to a teen support group.

5. Dad/Mom the condom broke when Suzy and I where at the park awhile ago and now Suzy thinks she's pregnant, what should I do or should she get an abortion?

I would talked about their choices get them tested and then let them make their own decision. Living in the city they know teen moms and how having children changes one's future.

I could have been a grandmother 7 years ago. At the time I gave my daughter my full support in the choice she made. Later when her birth control did fail, she had just gotten engage to a wonderful young man. Her son was 4 months old and well behaved at the wedding. Her sisters both have let me known that I won't be getting any other grandchildren anytime soon.

edited as Jonwin took the time to help me with my spelling and grammar. It's one area my girls know not to ask my help with

Edited, Thu Dec 16 20:23:40 2004 by ElneClare
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#40 Dec 16 2004 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
^ If that was actually true, wouldn't it be awesome?! Smiley: clap
#41 Dec 16 2004 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I left out some details, as I don't want my girls to kill me. They would if I had posted everything they put me though.
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#42 Dec 16 2004 at 8:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Qoaz, just in case your response was not a troll attempt
Elne is the woman of the house, and I can vouch for the truth of what she typed.(even if i cringe at her grammer)
Of course you dont have to believe me either.




#43 Dec 16 2004 at 8:30 PM Rating: Default
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ElneClare, I shudder to think of the life that one would live when parented by a transgendered dope using father. The only thing missing is the sequined glove and a slow pigmentation change.

And to think the thing you are concerned with is your children attending a church which might <gasp!> offer spiritual salvation!

Nice priorities.

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#44 Dec 16 2004 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
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1) stay away from acid, coke, and meth. everything else is cool. and if they're mushies there, put some peanut butter on them so you don't choke to death.

2) both. and remember, if she forgets the pill even ONCE it GREATLY increases her risk of getting pregnant. we only realized these drugs prevented pregnancy after we intended them to be used to catalyze it.

3) no. no it's not alright. if you go, you're grounded. and while you're grounded i'll have you read augustine or something else comparitively painful.

4) then you'd follow in your mother's footsteps and i'd be very, very proud of you coming to this conclusion all on your own.

5) oops. deal with it. your choice.
#45 Dec 16 2004 at 9:02 PM Rating: Default
transgendered people are way out there. The idea that someone would be so uncomfortable with their natural existence frightens me. All of them tend to be extremely histrionic in my experience... I never accept the fantasies of others. Tolerance has it's downside IMO.
#46 Dec 16 2004 at 9:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Well Totem, Being the wife to an Mentally Abusive Dope using Transgendered person was something I wish never happen to me. But then I did get 3 wonderful children from the man.

If I had known that he was transgendered, before I got married and had kids, I wouldn't have had done it. I feel like my marriage was based on a lie. Doesn't change anything and we all suffered because he tried to pretend to the world he was as macho as the next man.

One thing I tell my transgender friends is never lie to anyone about their birth gender. Most don't get a wife who at least tried to be understanding and end up losing all contact with their children.

I'm an Ethicial Humanist. I don't feel a need to follow a Book or religion that tries to scare people in being Good. I had enough people trying to play mind games with me over being Saved or not as a young person and stop attending Christian churches, when I learned to think for myself.

I have alot of respect for others beliefs and faith in God. I just find my spirital life in respecting all Life and not just those who are "Saved" because they follow a book that been translated from third hand sources.

Jonwin is too busy to proofread this, so all spelling and grammer mistakes are normal and my own ellenese.

Edited, Thu Dec 16 21:08:14 2004 by ElneClare
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#47 Dec 16 2004 at 9:07 PM Rating: Good
You did a better job at grammar and spelling without Jonwin helping you out.
#48 Dec 16 2004 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
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You didn't see how bad my grammar and spelling was before he told me I should use a spell checker and I ask him to point out my mistakes.

Ellenese isn't easy to translate, so most people who try end up changing the meaning of what they think I typed, which isn't anything near what I was trying to say. Not even I can figure out what I write with pen and paper longhanded.
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#49 Dec 16 2004 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
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1. Dad/Mom Suzy and I where thinking of going to a party on Saturday and we where thinking of trying drugs.


My response: "What are you an idiot? You don't tell your parents that you're going to go try drugs!!! You just go out and try them on your own. If you're fit to live you'll either give them up or learn to handle them. Now pass the beer and get the hell out of here."

2. Mom/Dad Suzy and I are getting to a point in our relationship where we are trying to decide are condoms the right choice or should she use the pill?

My response: "Both. And let's never speak of this again. Pass the beer."

3. Dad/Mom I was thinking of going to a meeting with a bunch of my friends on wednesday night. I know we have never discussed this issue before, but is it all right if I go to church?

My response:"Churches are bad for you. Have you learned nothing that I've tried to teach you? Mind control is bad. False hopes are bad. Delusional nitwits are bad. Take responsibility for your own life, and don't try to pin your successes or failures on some ******** invisible man in the sky. I utterly forbid you from ever joining any church, and will disown you and never speak to you again for as long as I live if you do. Pass the beer."

4. Dad/Mom I'm getting these funny feelings everytime I'm around george, I mean there like more intense than when I thought suzy was the girl for me? What if I was gay?


My response: Well, George is pretty damned hot. If I was gay, I'd probably do him too. Look... I don't care if you're gay or not so long as you exercise sound judgement and have good taste. Pass the beer."

5. Dad/Mom the condom broke when Suzy and I where at the park awhile ago and now Suzy thinks she's pregnant, what should I do or should she get an abortion?

My response: "What the **** were you doing it in the park for? Didn't I buy you a nice car with a big bench seat? For Christ's sake kid, display an iota of responsibility!!! You could have taken her to a motel, you get plenty of allowance money! Of course if she is pregnant... well, it's your problem to deal with . Lemme know if you need a hand. Pass the beer."
#50 Dec 16 2004 at 10:11 PM Rating: Excellent
OK, my turn....

1. Dad/Mom Suzy and I where thinking of going to a party on Saturday and we where thinking of trying drugs.

I would be happy they came to talk to me, and if they were set on trying drugs offer to let him try a prescription equivalent at home under my supervision. I would pick a drug that while providing the high also, also made him sicker than a dog.


2. Mom/Dad Suzy and I are getting to a point in our relationship where we are trying to decide are condoms the right choice or should she use the pill?

I would discuss all the possible issues, including Aids, pregnancy, and the responsibility of parenthood at such a young age. Ultimately the issue is theirs to decide, and not helping will only make it harder for them to come to me about things.

3. Dad/Mom I was thinking of going to a meeting with a bunch of my friends on wednesday night. I know we have never discussed this issue before, but is it all right if I go to church?

Anything but a cult would be fine with me, and I would offer to discuss my feelings about God and organized religion.

4. Dad/Mom I'm getting these funny feelings everytime I'm around george, I mean there like more intense than when I thought suzy was the girl for me? What if I was gay?

I will always love you. I am so happy that you could come to me. Life choices are often difficult, and not easily accepted by others. Let's talk about what type of feelings you are having.....

5. Dad/Mom the condom broke when Suzy and I where at the park awhile ago and now Suzy thinks she's pregnant, what should I do or should she get an abortion?

I would tell him I loved him, and that he was not in this alone, that I would be with them the entire way. I would talk with him about the risks, and emmotional costs associated with either decission. I would want to know first what he felt about a baby. We would dicuss how abortion is always a Woman's option and how would he feel if that was what Suzy decided. Then we would talk with him Suzy and her parents. I would offer to support any decission they made, and assist them how I could. I would insist that they both finish school, and would financially help them so this could occur.
#51 Dec 16 2004 at 10:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Look at the whores around you. Do they look happy having kids at 25 even?


Umm I hope I am not reading this out of context but I had to ask.

I am going to hopefully assume when you mean whores you mean the women who walk on the street corner selling their body right? Because I really hope that was not a comment against women who choose or have children under the age of 25.


Please please please say that my assumption of them being street corner girls is right Laviont.
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