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#1 Dec 14 2004 at 11:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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I keep seeing many people complaining there are no threads(without news links haha) and they are bored. So, without further ado, I'll post something to make you work, and hopefully keep you occupied for a little bit.

Here's the rules though. We're going to talk about religion/beliefs. What do each of us believe in or do we even. Each of us has that one thing that keeps us going, be it faith, spirituality, or something else.


I thought this would be a good way to view other beliefs and religions without any preaching at all!!! I know you're all adult enough hahahaha Im laughing so hard here to do this where others in OOT can't. Don't mess this up and start getting into debates or arguemnts about who is right and who is wrong. There is no right or wrong for each person, and if it's too tempting to post here without judging then get off this post cause none of us want to hear it.


For me;

I do not fit into one catergory of religion or faith. I truely am more spiritual then religious. The closest description that I could find for my personal beliefs was Panentheism which means A person who believes that God is of everything and everything is of God. Panentheism is the belief that everything that exists does so within and as part of God itself. Panentheist's do not view being human as a separate life, but only a state of being, and when this state ends, we continue on, creating other states of being. (Transmigration) (Reincarnation) We hold the Universe and all living creatures within it sacred, as they (we) are all part of the essence of God.
Another aspect I find close to me is a lot of Pantheism, closely related to Pnanetheism, but not the same. A good link for Q&As on Pantheism is found here



#2 Dec 14 2004 at 11:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Folk Catholicism. It's what happened when the Spaniards took over the indigenous people in (mostly) South America and created a fusion of Catholicism that is more liberal than the traditional one. Almost Episcopalian, except a lot less pale.
#3 Dec 14 2004 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
Pantheism sounds good to me. I hope my spirit lives on, but damned if I come back to this God forsaken Earth.

Happy happy! Joy joy!
#4 Dec 14 2004 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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Mormon.
#5 Dec 14 2004 at 11:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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My religious beliefs encourage me to mock those that cant spell Truly.

No as for myself:

Roman Catholic School from Junior Kindergarten to Grade 13 gave me a healthy disrespect for any and all organized religions. While I am interested in the history and cult behind religions be it Christianity, Judaism, Islam etc I would never find myself believing in them.

I personally dont know if there is a God, frankly as Donnie Darko stated it can be argued either way till both sides are blue in the face so I dont much think about it.

I dont hold it against others if they do or do not believe in God as long as they do not try to push there beliefs on me and as long as they dont allow there beliefs to promote hate or ignorance (it happens to often even in Athiests).

While the name Bodhisattva is from a Buddhist belief and I have read numerous texts I would not consider myself a buddhist. I dont necessarily believe in Nirvana or the Bardo or reincarnation but I do view the Buddhist outlook on suffering and the sources of suffering as a cultural work of art.

Ive read Hindu texts, ive sat through a Sikh ceremony, Ive attended church, ive spoken with Rabbis, and ive read the Tao te Ching more times than I care to shake a stick at, I am still not sure what I believe.

While I think each is amazing in its own way, when it comes right down to it I feel when you die, you die. There is probably no mystical father figure or endless cycle of rebirth to look forward to or fear.
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#6 Dec 14 2004 at 11:46 AM Rating: Good
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"we believe in nothing Lebowski... Nothing!"
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#8 Dec 14 2004 at 11:51 AM Rating: Good
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I don't require any made up fairy tales to "keep me going".
#9 Dec 14 2004 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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"we believe in nothing Lebowski... Nothing!"


Nihilists!!!!!
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#10 Dec 14 2004 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I was gonna say that this thread will be fully hi-jacked by post 27, but it appears it's already happened.


#11 Dec 14 2004 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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well since I don't really identify with any religion anymore, and I'm not sure what I would be labled as, I went looking for a fun test to find out what I would probably be labled as. Got these for top 10 results:

The top score on the list below represents the faith that Belief-O-Matic, in its less than infinite wisdom, thinks most closely matches your beliefs. However, even a score of 100% does not mean that your views are all shared by this faith, or vice versa.


1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Liberal Quakers (93%)
3. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (91%)
4. Neo-Pagan (86%)
5. Mahayana Buddhism (84%)
6. Bahá'í Faith (80%)
7. New Age (76%)
8. Secular Humanism (68%)
9. Jainism (66%)
10. Theravada Buddhism (65%)

what unitarian Universalism believe/is:
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8041_1.html

and the test I took for fun:
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html

interestingly enough, it strikes pretty close to home for me. there's a UUA that has a site that goes more in depth, but what beliefnet says is pretty close.
#12 Dec 14 2004 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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damn double....

Edited, Tue Dec 14 12:12:38 2004 by Isten
#13 Dec 14 2004 at 11:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Christian. Specifically Seventh Day Adventist

Personally, I'd like to think I believe in all this stuff without the hypocrisy that 95% of the church has. You believe in what you want and I'm certainly not going to push my beliefs into your face. It's not necessary and doesn't help either end.
#14 Dec 14 2004 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Nihilists! Jesus.

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism,
Dude, at least it's an ethos.
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#15 Dec 14 2004 at 12:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm a pantheist, I worship an iron skillet, who, upon being heated to nearly 500 degrees, made a double boiler from nothing more than some burned cheese and grease. Ye, my iron skillet, bless me further with your set of cookware, so that I may one day simmer, perchance to boil. For cooking with gas does please you, and electric heat plates doth not please you.
#16 Dec 14 2004 at 12:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Existentialist. :)

That is to say, I was raised Jewish, and still adhere to a few things, but my beliefs are my own.

I do believe there is a "power" "higher" than us, only that a.) those terms are relative and pretty meaningless, and b.) the "power" doesn't affect us in any way and thus doesn't really matter. I do not believe in rituals or "magic". I believe in ghosts, but not as conscious entities, and the power of mind over matter. I do not believe in fate, or destiny, or in free will, either. I believe that there are hidden things that would shock the world if they were discovered. I believe that humans have a shared consciousness, on a very subliminal level. I do not believe in reincarnation. The most spiritual thing I can do is just be nice; as far as who to worship or have faith in, if I can't have faith in myself, how can I have faith in others?

The problem is, some of my beliefs are derived from 4-5 years ago, when, looking back, I could have been diagnosed as mentally ill. Vampires and Astral Projection; you can determine the rest.
#17 Dec 14 2004 at 12:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Raised Catholic, but I'm more along the lines of an agnostic right now. I've been taking a philosophy class which has really widened my view, and it got me to start thinking (I was almost an athiest before this class).

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#18 Dec 14 2004 at 12:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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I guess I have to go with agnostic. I used to have actual, spiritual beliefs, and maybe somewhere I still have them, but they seem to have faded. I've become much more cynical over the years. Now, not only do I need proof of God or a god, I also need proof of inner spirituality.

How's that for jaded? Smiley: sly
#19 Dec 14 2004 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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I believe in filling in the blanks..

as opposed to multiple choice..

Edited, Tue Dec 14 12:20:48 2004 by Kelvyquayo
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#20 Dec 14 2004 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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I believe in the intelligence, willpower, complexity of the human mind. Anything miracle-like that can ever be actually proven to happen has been done by us - our species. I guess that's a bit evolutionist in thinking, but humans seemed to have taken "survival of the fitest" to a whole new level.
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#21 Dec 14 2004 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I wrote:
I believe in filling in the blanks..

as opposed to multiple choice..


I should rephrase.

I believe in connecting the dots,

as opposed to picking just one dot and sticking to only that one dot.
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#22 Dec 14 2004 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I believe every multiple choice question should have a "Mu" choice.
#23 Dec 14 2004 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Kelvyquayo the Hand wrote:


I believe in connecting the dots,

as opposed to picking just one dot and sticking to only that one dot.

Similarily, I don't believe in staying in the line, but do believe in thinking outside the box. I put alot of faith in my circle of friends but DON'T buy the Triangle of Terror theory. Smiley: tongue
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#24 Dec 14 2004 at 12:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm Christian...but without all the hypocrisy and dictatorship it's tied to.


I beleive that everyone can beleive in what ever they want. There is only 1 God, but everyone worships Him and even names Him differently. (Jehova, Alah, Cheese, ect...)


I'm the "Live and Let Live" type of christian, you know?
#25 Dec 14 2004 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
I believe there is a higher being, and we all have different impressions of him. But I think that there is only one higher being for all of us.
#26 Dec 14 2004 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
I'll chime in as another "live and let live" christian.

though I must admit I do like some of the the ideals of Panentheism and must admit after a quick read up I actually do lean somewhat in that direction with my own system of beliefs.
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