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yes, thermite is completely real. In my Chem class a few weeks ago, we did the reaction. In a clay flowerpot, we put the iron oxide (rust) with some ground up alluminum, then there was some sort of iodine compound that we combined with glycerine to heat the iron and alluminum up. The result shot some light yellow sparks up into the air, and molten iron dropped out the hole in the bottom of the pot (there was paper over the hole that burned away so the iron could drop)
It dropped into a bucket of kitty litter. That melted the kitty litter to the iron, causing a huge blob of stuff.
Watching the thermite reaction melt through kitty litter was pretty cool, but I can't imagine how nasty that could be in a bomb. Catching a bit of that and not dying could be worse than death itself, because that iron will not cool down any time soon. Imagine pressing a hot frying pan against your chest, now heat that up 3 times over :X
It dropped into a bucket of kitty litter. That melted the kitty litter to the iron, causing a huge blob of stuff.
Watching the thermite reaction melt through kitty litter was pretty cool, but I can't imagine how nasty that could be in a bomb. Catching a bit of that and not dying could be worse than death itself, because that iron will not cool down any time soon. Imagine pressing a hot frying pan against your chest, now heat that up 3 times over :X
RACK you, Explained. Kill a couple of savages for me, if you will. I miss my gun bunny days. 
Totem
Totem
regardless of how truthful (or untruthful) those articles are i think i dont think anyone (not insane) could make an argument to say that US forces arent killing innocents on a near daily basis.
Thermite is some nasty ****, but I think it would work fast if you used enough of it.
We too made thermite in chem class two years ago. Our chem teacher, who was a very retarded psycho, made some of that dangerous stuff, put it in a porcelain pot.
The **** exploded and I got some of the hot porcelain on my pants - luckily they were baggy so nothing happened to my skin.
We too made thermite in chem class two years ago. Our chem teacher, who was a very retarded psycho, made some of that dangerous stuff, put it in a porcelain pot.
The **** exploded and I got some of the hot porcelain on my pants - luckily they were baggy so nothing happened to my skin.
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regardless of how truthful (or untruthful) those articles are i think i dont think anyone (not insane) could make an argument to say that US forces arent killing innocents on a near daily basis.
Okay, so you are saying that the enemy is not killing innocents also?? Think again.
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The most common thermite reaction is that of iron oxide, which exceeds 3000°C:
Ouch thats 5432°F or half the temperature of the sun.
Ehhh yea I dobt they would feel that, you would just die.
Edited, Sun Dec 5 21:18:12 2004 by Lamnethx
Thermite is cool. Set a 'nade on the hatch of a tank and watch it drop through a hole in the vehicle a couple of minutes later.
Napalm sticks to kids!*
Totem
* If you don't know the reference, you're too young. Sing it with me!
C-130 rollin' down the strip,
Airborne daddy gon' take a li'l trip.
Stand up, hook up, shuffle to the doo',
We're gon' jump at the count of four.
Napalm sticks to kids!
Napalm sticks to kids!*
Totem
* If you don't know the reference, you're too young. Sing it with me!
C-130 rollin' down the strip,
Airborne daddy gon' take a li'l trip.
Stand up, hook up, shuffle to the doo',
We're gon' jump at the count of four.
Napalm sticks to kids!
Tot, did I hear you correctly? You were a ground pounder? Iwas with the 5/28 and 3/92. Who were you with?
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If someone invaded my country you can bet your *** I wouldn't give a ratf'uck what the rules said about who/where/when I could kill the enemy. I imagine that's pretty much how the Iraqi 'insurgents' fell too.
Let me understand you correctly:
Your saying if a ruthless dictator took over your country and was killing millions of your own people and enslaving the rest. Then an outside country came in to try to free your people, and setup a stable government, you would attack the incoming country?
Correct me if I wrong,,,,Please.
explained, dont be a ***** f[/b]ucktard. if the average soldier was even twice as smart as you it would explain perfectly why we are having such a hard time down there.
come on now. where the f[b]uck do i even suggest that the resistance groups dont also kill innocents?
i would say that any coalition friendly forces are less innocent than your average iraqi, particularly aid workers. now im not saying they deserve it (quite the opposite), but when you knowingly go to a foriegn country where at best most of the population wishes you werent there and at worst they'd kill you in a heartbeat its hard to say they didnt know what they were getting into. they are there by choice, and when they made that choice they accepted certain risks, like, you know, angry iraqi's lashing out at anyone they can.
in contrast your average "iraqi innocent" has no choice as to where they are. they are in iraq and there is not much they can do about it. they are getting killed by foriegn invaders largely through no fault of their own.
Edited, Mon Dec 6 09:11:28 2004 by Angry Hippo
Edited, Mon Dec 6 19:08:42 2004 by Angry Hippo
come on now. where the f[b]uck do i even suggest that the resistance groups dont also kill innocents?
i would say that any coalition friendly forces are less innocent than your average iraqi, particularly aid workers. now im not saying they deserve it (quite the opposite), but when you knowingly go to a foriegn country where at best most of the population wishes you werent there and at worst they'd kill you in a heartbeat its hard to say they didnt know what they were getting into. they are there by choice, and when they made that choice they accepted certain risks, like, you know, angry iraqi's lashing out at anyone they can.
in contrast your average "iraqi innocent" has no choice as to where they are. they are in iraq and there is not much they can do about it. they are getting killed by foriegn invaders largely through no fault of their own.
Edited, Mon Dec 6 09:11:28 2004 by Angry Hippo
Edited, Mon Dec 6 19:08:42 2004 by Angry Hippo
No, Visagoth, while I started off as a crunchie-- first in the Mech and later in a straight leg mortar unit --I was Aviation for the majority of my career. I spent the vast majority of my time chuckling at the hapless souls looking up at me from their foxholes as I flew over planning what bars to hit that evening.
It was a rough job, but someone had to do it...
Totem
It was a rough job, but someone had to do it...
Totem
randomeffect wrote:
Let me understand you correctly:
Your saying if a ruthless dictator took over your country and was killing millions of your own people and enslaving the rest. Then an outside country came in to try to free your people, and setup a stable government, you would attack the incoming country?
Correct me if I wrong,,,,Please.
Your saying if a ruthless dictator took over your country and was killing millions of your own people and enslaving the rest. Then an outside country came in to try to free your people, and setup a stable government, you would attack the incoming country?
Correct me if I wrong,,,,Please.
How dare those savages not realize we're only killing them to free them!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Hey, you can't break an omelette without making some eggs.
If life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Then find someone that life has given vodka and have party.
This establishment does not serve women. You must bring your own.
This establishment does not serve women. You must bring your own.
Angry Hippo said:
i would say that any coalition friendly forces are less innocent than your average iraqi, particularly aid workers. now im not saying they deserve it (quite the opposite), but when you knowingly go to a foriegn country where at best most of the population wishes you werent there and at worst they'd kill you in a heartbeat its hard to say they didnt know what they were getting into. they are there by choice, and when they made that choice they accepted certain risks, like, you know, angry iraqi's lashing out at anyone they can.
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What a **** attitude. How the fxck do aid workers play into this situation.
The average "civilian" in Falluja had months to leave and knew what was coming. Most that stayed could not leave because the extremists wouldn't let them or were just stupid.
It is easy for Hippo and Bhodisttva (and the like) to sit over here on their momma's couch and whine. It is another thing to be one of the soldiers in the coalition to be faced with clearing out a city of terrorists that will fight to the death.
The government made the decision to go into Iraq, not the soldiers. They are there and need to finish the job to get back.
In your future comments please separate the soldiers from the government in your pretentious judgements about what is going on in Iraq. They are doing the best they can.
i would say that any coalition friendly forces are less innocent than your average iraqi, particularly aid workers. now im not saying they deserve it (quite the opposite), but when you knowingly go to a foriegn country where at best most of the population wishes you werent there and at worst they'd kill you in a heartbeat its hard to say they didnt know what they were getting into. they are there by choice, and when they made that choice they accepted certain risks, like, you know, angry iraqi's lashing out at anyone they can.
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What a **** attitude. How the fxck do aid workers play into this situation.
The average "civilian" in Falluja had months to leave and knew what was coming. Most that stayed could not leave because the extremists wouldn't let them or were just stupid.
It is easy for Hippo and Bhodisttva (and the like) to sit over here on their momma's couch and whine. It is another thing to be one of the soldiers in the coalition to be faced with clearing out a city of terrorists that will fight to the death.
The government made the decision to go into Iraq, not the soldiers. They are there and need to finish the job to get back.
In your future comments please separate the soldiers from the government in your pretentious judgements about what is going on in Iraq. They are doing the best they can.
so you are telling me that if you are a person that is forced by insurgents to stay or too stupid to leave all your home plus all your belongings then you arent really innocent and it doesnt matter if you die? that seems to be what your saying.
the figure is a bit blurry in my memory but i seem to recall hearing that not too long ago there were still 60,000 people in the town. it seems to me that not even close to all 60,000 could be insurgents. if the number is completely bogus ignore it and remember this instead - women and children are killed frequently. im pretty sure they are all innocent as i havent heard about too many female terrorists.
i dont blame the common soldier but higher levels of command (and of course, bush) need to realize that it isnt okay to kill women and children because your intelligence was off and you bombed the wrong place.
Edited, Mon Dec 6 19:30:35 2004 by Angry Hippo
the figure is a bit blurry in my memory but i seem to recall hearing that not too long ago there were still 60,000 people in the town. it seems to me that not even close to all 60,000 could be insurgents. if the number is completely bogus ignore it and remember this instead - women and children are killed frequently. im pretty sure they are all innocent as i havent heard about too many female terrorists.
i dont blame the common soldier but higher levels of command (and of course, bush) need to realize that it isnt okay to kill women and children because your intelligence was off and you bombed the wrong place.
Edited, Mon Dec 6 19:30:35 2004 by Angry Hippo
Plug a dune **** for me man (just make sure its a combatant first ^^)
[:beer:]
Edited, Mon Dec 6 20:10:26 2004 by Lefein
[:beer:]
Edited, Mon Dec 6 20:10:26 2004 by Lefein
Totem wrote:
No, Visagoth, while I started off as a crunchie-- first in the Mech and later in a straight leg mortar unit --I was Aviation for the majority of my career. I spent the vast majority of my time chuckling at the hapless souls looking up at me from their foxholes as I flew over planning what bars to hit that evening.
It was a rough job, but someone had to do it...
Totem
It was a rough job, but someone had to do it...
Totem
Sounds like a pretty good setup, beats the he1l out of mud and blowing sand.
randomeffect wrote:
Your saying if a ruthless dictator took over your country and was killing millions of your own people and enslaving the rest. Then an outside country came in to try to free your people, and setup a stable government by wiping out your home town with along with anyone who was unable to leave, you would attack the incoming country?
Scenario.
[i]Evil President takes power over USA in 2008, killing US citizens etc. (Like Saddam).
You live in, let's say, LA.
You need outside help and China says "We'll help you overthrow the tyrant and give you back your freedom". Whoppeee, you say. Thanks guys. Come on in.
Meanwhile, Mexico says "China? Fu[i]ck them! They take USA? We'll be next. Let's all wade into LA to help out our fellow americans"
Next thing, LA is under siege, you're offered 2 weeks by the chinese to leave or die. Mexicans on the street corners say "Oh no you don't, gringo." You're trapped, under siege in your home town. And there's nothing you can do about it.
You see the school you went to bombed ('cause the Mexicans are holed up there). Next it's your local Church, cause the mexicans are there too. Next it's your brother and his family. You find your mother's body in the street.
You gonna lay your life down for the Mexicans? The Chinese? Don't matter. You're fu[/i]cked.
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Now I'm sure you'll find nit-picky reasons to flame that analogy, but I don't give a fetid bowl of wolf-gonads.
I supported the war in Afghanistan (there was a clear succession plan).
I supported plans for an Iraqi invasion with succession plan, but in the absence of a plan, it's a cluster-fu[/i]ck. Brave Americans & Brits are dying. Murderous Iranians, Syrians and other Arabs are flooding the area.
The poor c[i]unts trapped in the middle are plumbers, teachers, coffee-shop owners, students and home makers. Just like us. Dying at the hands of foreigners in their home town.
God forbid that happens to you or I.
The soldiers are doing the job they were given. As always. With courage and honor. But it doesn't mean the locals have been moved from the frying pan to the fire. Doesn't make it right.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Totem wrote:
Thermite is cool. Set a 'nade on the hatch of a tank and watch it drop through a hole in the vehicle a couple of minutes later.
Napalm sticks to kids!*
Napalm sticks to kids!*
Home made napalm = Concentrate frozen OJ and diesel fuel.
Do not try this at home!
In response to the people saying we kill civilians on a daily basis:
In a war that takes place in inhabited areas that are active living places, people who are not intended targets will be casualties of that war. It is a said truth, but history shows it is virtually unavoidable. The army does not just have a map that points to where the bad guys are (in general), but a map that has suggestions to where the enemy can be. After investigating those possibilities, they hit the ones that are most likely targets. Sometimes civilians are there. It is a fact, and while unforetunate, it happens.
In response to those critcizing my comments:
I did not mean to underplay that situation that happened at Abu Graid (SP?). What those people did is sick and wrong and they need to be discharged for it. I do have a problem when they accuse higher ups (General Sanchez, Pres. Bush, Secretary Rumsfeld, etc...) of telling them to do it. There is no proof that they said that. Now there is proof that Sanchez did say that the means of interigation can be tougher, but that doesn't mean you assualt or rape them! Anyone with common sense knows that. Anyways, my point was, why do people only focus on criticizing our army, when the enemy is doing just plain sick and inhuane things on a MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more regular basis. I mean, they probably shoot up people just for fun or rape them in torture chambers. How can people even compare those to Abu Graid? Again, I don't want to underplay what happened their, but what the enemy does is on a MUCH higher calliber.
In a war that takes place in inhabited areas that are active living places, people who are not intended targets will be casualties of that war. It is a said truth, but history shows it is virtually unavoidable. The army does not just have a map that points to where the bad guys are (in general), but a map that has suggestions to where the enemy can be. After investigating those possibilities, they hit the ones that are most likely targets. Sometimes civilians are there. It is a fact, and while unforetunate, it happens.
In response to those critcizing my comments:
I did not mean to underplay that situation that happened at Abu Graid (SP?). What those people did is sick and wrong and they need to be discharged for it. I do have a problem when they accuse higher ups (General Sanchez, Pres. Bush, Secretary Rumsfeld, etc...) of telling them to do it. There is no proof that they said that. Now there is proof that Sanchez did say that the means of interigation can be tougher, but that doesn't mean you assualt or rape them! Anyone with common sense knows that. Anyways, my point was, why do people only focus on criticizing our army, when the enemy is doing just plain sick and inhuane things on a MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more regular basis. I mean, they probably shoot up people just for fun or rape them in torture chambers. How can people even compare those to Abu Graid? Again, I don't want to underplay what happened their, but what the enemy does is on a MUCH higher calliber.
Splintercelldude
Define 'enemy'
Most of the people who are killed by Coalition Forces are either non-Iraqi's hoping for a Ruck, or innocent bystanders whove passed from Saddam's horror to ours.
Define 'enemy'
Most of the people who are killed by Coalition Forces are either non-Iraqi's hoping for a Ruck, or innocent bystanders whove passed from Saddam's horror to ours.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Nobby wrote:
I supported the war in Afghanistan (there was a clear succession plan).
Explain to me exactly how the succession plan in Afghanistan was any more or less "clear" then the one in Iraq.
That's pure rhetoric. People didn't like the invasion of Iraq because they couldn't see a straight line "they attacked us, so we attack them" logic to it. If you disagree with Iraq for that reason, then fine. But adding in bogus crap like "We have no exit strategy in Iraq", especially when saying that Afghanistan was an acceptable operation, is essentially lying to yourself.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
thank you for the info explained.
personally, i think the military is doing an outstanding job, considering the circumstances. a mere 140,000 troops occupying a country of millions of people who are mostly against our actions is a daunting task, and one i do not think ANY military any where in the world could possiblly do any better of a job.
nor have i herd anyone i have talked to, either for or against the war, speak poorly of anyone in iraq doing what you guys are doing.
but for some info for you, the U.N. just finnished a commisioned report calling our effort in Iraq "illegal". one step short of a war crime. needless to say, there is little chance in hell we will be getting any help from them.
the top cia agent in Iraq also just released a report that was leaked to the media that the situation in Iraq is deteroriating at a significant pace, and getting out of controll.
the white house responded by launching a probe into the food for oil scandal against the U.N. tying the leader of the U.N. into it through his son, and leaking accusations to the press that the CIA is holding a grudge against this addminsitraition for making them the fall guy for the misinformation concerning the war, and thus are publishing reports that will hurt the efforts of this addministraitoion for no other purpose than to hurt the addministraition.
the truth is, americans are dying. i dont really care who is at fault. either commit the troops in numbers suffeciant enough to get the job done, OR GET OUT.
my anger is with this addministraition, not our military. they are leaving your *** hanging out the door.
sadly, i see no hope this addminsitraition will make any differance in the next 4 years. Bush is too stubborn to call this a ***** up, adn thus will not pull you out, and he has pissed off EVERYONE who could possibly help us in a substantial way, thus guarenteeing we wont get any help to salvage this calamity in the making.
my prayers are with you. i did what i could to end this stupidity with my vote. unfortunatly it was not enough.
hopefully, when it gets too bad, the leaders of our military will side with the safety of people like you, and circle the wagons no matter what the white house wants. the people will support your safety over the ambitions of this addministraition, weather they supported this addministraition or not.
i am sorry. eventually, enough people will get pissed off enough to put some real political pressure on this addministraition to do the right thing by our military. but it is like a love affair. they will not listen to reason untill they get burned enough to shake their faith. and that may take a while.
be safe.
personally, i think the military is doing an outstanding job, considering the circumstances. a mere 140,000 troops occupying a country of millions of people who are mostly against our actions is a daunting task, and one i do not think ANY military any where in the world could possiblly do any better of a job.
nor have i herd anyone i have talked to, either for or against the war, speak poorly of anyone in iraq doing what you guys are doing.
but for some info for you, the U.N. just finnished a commisioned report calling our effort in Iraq "illegal". one step short of a war crime. needless to say, there is little chance in hell we will be getting any help from them.
the top cia agent in Iraq also just released a report that was leaked to the media that the situation in Iraq is deteroriating at a significant pace, and getting out of controll.
the white house responded by launching a probe into the food for oil scandal against the U.N. tying the leader of the U.N. into it through his son, and leaking accusations to the press that the CIA is holding a grudge against this addminsitraition for making them the fall guy for the misinformation concerning the war, and thus are publishing reports that will hurt the efforts of this addministraitoion for no other purpose than to hurt the addministraition.
the truth is, americans are dying. i dont really care who is at fault. either commit the troops in numbers suffeciant enough to get the job done, OR GET OUT.
my anger is with this addministraition, not our military. they are leaving your *** hanging out the door.
sadly, i see no hope this addminsitraition will make any differance in the next 4 years. Bush is too stubborn to call this a ***** up, adn thus will not pull you out, and he has pissed off EVERYONE who could possibly help us in a substantial way, thus guarenteeing we wont get any help to salvage this calamity in the making.
my prayers are with you. i did what i could to end this stupidity with my vote. unfortunatly it was not enough.
hopefully, when it gets too bad, the leaders of our military will side with the safety of people like you, and circle the wagons no matter what the white house wants. the people will support your safety over the ambitions of this addministraition, weather they supported this addministraition or not.
i am sorry. eventually, enough people will get pissed off enough to put some real political pressure on this addministraition to do the right thing by our military. but it is like a love affair. they will not listen to reason untill they get burned enough to shake their faith. and that may take a while.
be safe.
If you plug a terrorist and say "Lefein sends his love." I will rate you up! ^^ I want my own dead dune ****!
If they hit us again I'll be over there doing it myself tho. Much love for the troops!
/high five
AMERICA, FU[/u]CK YEAH! Flick my buud, suck on my balls!
If they hit us again I'll be over there doing it myself tho. Much love for the troops!
/high five
AMERICA, FU[/u]CK YEAH! Flick my buud, suck on my balls!
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