Tis the season I guess.Follow

Correct. Not facts or evidence to support an argument. As valid as Area 51 is to a tin-foil hatter. How many versions have you read? How many U-Turns in the text, connatation or message do you need to see before you realise that what now exists is a Frankenstein's Monster of politically convenient reinterpretations, mistranslations and blatant modern fiction?

How many times Einstein? If you believe in God, Jesus as deity in flesh, Mohammad as the last and final prophet, the Virgin Mary in a Cheeseburger or Hong Kong Phooey, fine. Have a nice time. Burn a candle or two, build a temple, send money to a synagogue and wear pretty dreadlocks, spin that prayer-bell.

Just f[i][/i]uck off from arguments OK?

/hijack on

Actually if we want to get technical, Christmas originally had nothing to do with Jesus. The original holiday is the Winter Solstice http://www.circlesanctuary.org/pholidays/SolsticeArticle.html

Today, many people in Western-based cultures refer to this holiday as "Christmas." Yet a look into its origins of Christmas reveals its Pagan roots. Emperor Aurelian established December 25 as the birthday of the "Invincible Sun" in the third century as part of the Roman Winter Solstice celebrations. Shortly thereafter, in 273, the Christian church selected this day to represent the birthday of Jesus, and by 336, this Roman solar feast day was Christianized. January 6, celebrated as Epiphany in Christendom and linked with the visit of the Magi, was originally an Egyptian date for the Winter Solstice.


So, if it makes you feel better, just know that Jesus was actually born around the springtime but we celebrate his birth as a cover up for Pagan holidays.

Happy Solstice everyone!

First off, it's always a little exasperating to see people who can't view a conversation about the Bible without throwing in their "OMG Jesus isn't real!!!" Who the hell cares? That's not the question, the question is what was so exceptional about the death of Jesus and how are the two halves of the Book reconciled in relation to God's actions towards man. If I ask a question about sacrifices made in the The Lord of Rings, will you feel the need to start derailing the topic to how hobbits aren't real?

Anyway...
In Acts 3 (I believe, no Bible in front of me), two new disciples (i.e. Christians) sold their property as was the custom to give the money to the Church. Ananias decided to hold some money back and his wife knew about it. He went to Peter and said "Here's all my money" to which Peter asked why he felt the need to lie to the church, at which point Ananias dropped dead. Then Peter went to Sapphira and asked her "was this the money you got for your property?" and Sapphira said "Yeah, that's all of it" and Peter again asked why she was lying about it and she died as well. Note that giving up all you owned wasn't mandated by Jesus so it wasn't a question of why they were "stealing from the Church" as much as why they were lying to Peter about their supposed charity.

Maddstarr

If I 'believe' that flying a passenger jet into a packed office block, will you still respect me in the morning?

Now GFY you supercilious piece of sh[i][/i]it.

Jophiel quotes scripture in context. It seems he has faith.

He has my respect.

You, my little pre-teen fluffer, have my undying contempt.

I really don't give a flying **** what I have of yours nobby... you are not contributing to this belief discussion, therefore Biggity has the right idea... and I'll follow suit.

Good bye ********

Anyone else hear Digweed's mix this last weekend? Nice and dark, just how I love it. Not a big fan on Anthony Pappa, but he did a nice job too.


Joph...you impressed me. Pretty sure you don't care, but nice job if you truly got that from your memory.

Heh, not a direct comment to you. Just a general rolling of the eyes that people feel the constant need to interject their claims of how fake the Bible is as if they fear people might somehow all become evangelical Christians by reading a message board thread. It's a safe bet that no one's beliefs are going to be severely changed by anything typed here and the constant piping up about how God isn't real just turns the thread from a potentially semi-interesting look at the literature and philosophy itself into the same stereotypical "God is real! Haha No he's not you idiot!" thread we've seen a bajillion times before.

Back to Ananais 'n Sapphira, I had the chapter wrong:

Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. With his wife's full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles' feet.
Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God."
When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. Then the young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him.
About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. Peter asked her, "Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?"
"Yes," she said, "that is the price."
Peter said to her, "How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also."
At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events. -- Acts 5:1-11

Nobby, your avatar is crazy. lol *poor lil' redyne....it was hers first right?*


Anyways, back to the thread.

You can believe in Evolution or you can believe in Creation. Hawat, noone really cares what you believe in. So ranting about Jesus if you really don't care in the first place is stupid.
If you don't believe, don't ask. Don't care what others believe either. Stop the questions and find a hobby. Leave Jesus alone.

nobby, I dont give a hair on an ameobas ******* whether you trained under the pope AND the dhali lama! The fact that you cannot see the common sense flaw in your arguement is all the evidence i need to make you look patheticaly stupid!

Nobby, the fact you have to throw credentials into an arguement against someone who your whimsical mind sees as an intellectual inferior, speaks volumes about you...

its quite funny actually! LOL you tool you!

do yourself a favor nob... shut up while the title you have and the number of posts forged with it still gives you some sense of dignity and credibility...

Jophiel,

That passage says that they lied to the spirit... makes me wonder if there is missing information us mortals do not know? Denying the spirit after you have recieved a witness of it, is unforgiveable and is one of the only 2 unforgiveable sins. Could it be they died denying the witness they recieved? Anyways, I must go, I will return tomorrow to share in this joy once again!

=Indoctrination of the feeble minded.

You're out of your depth Ignatius.

There's a division called 'reason v. argument'.

Dare I quote Smash and recommend Aquinas?

Naa, f[i][/i]uck it.

Whoosh!

Quick! Look up!

Naww. Too late. You missed it again!