Refer to: The Peoples of Middle-earth (The History of Middle-earth Vol. 12): XIII Last Writings. The Glorfindel character of Rivendell was not conceived as the same guy as Gondolin. Tolkien said :
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"Its use [i.e. the name 'Glorfindel'] in The Lord of the Rings is one of the cases of the somewhat random use of the names found in the older legends ... which escaped reconsideration in the final published form...".
Here is a timeline link of Glorfindel if you want to look... it references his death, also the SILM references him as dead as well although the book says he is just LOST... which can be interpreted as dead...
I read the LotR awhile back, but I couldn't remember whether Faramir threatened Frodo and attempted to take the ring like the film says. Help me out here.
I've always been under the impression that Glorfindel is indeed one Elf, both dying in the Fall of Gondolin and in Rivendell, as one of the several characters who are returned from death.
And why do you mention a Balrog in Helm's Deep? That wasn't in the book, nor were any elves except for Legolas. Or are you just making comparisons based on the editing of book to movie with regards to Arwen?
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publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
HXCHillary, in the Book, Faramir is suspicious of Frodo, threatens Frodo, and considers keeping Frodo a prisoner UNTIL he knows WHAT Frodo is carrying, and then almost immediately lets Frodo go.
In the Movie, Faramir KNOWS that Frodo has the ring -- and decides to take Frodo to Ecthelion -- and then to the Steward.
It is in the books, reference it and you will see his epic battle!
And actually there were elves mentioned, just not the same elves marching to the defense of Helms Deep as portrayed in the movie.. and in general, yes we are referencing book to movie sorta lol!
I've always been under the impression that Glorfindel is indeed one Elf, both dying in the Fall of Gondolin and in Rivendell, as one of the several characters who are returned from death.
And why do you mention a Balrog in Helm's Deep? That wasn't in the book, nor were any elves except for Legolas. Or are you just making comparisons based on the editing of book to movie with regards to Arwen?
I can't recall a balrog in Helm's Deep in the book either. As for Glorfindel being an elf, yes he is, and yes he may have been on the the few characters to return from death. That may be one explaination as to two of them.
I don't recall that per se, but my recollection is rather spotty, of course. I do need to read it all again. It's been over a year.
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publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Just because you dont want to talk about this subject, and feel you are intelectualy superior for your ability to publicly not enjoy things, doesnt qualify you to be calling anyone a dork...
However your trolling here does give all of us the right to to call YOU... a dork...
Don't take it too personal, just sayin' is all.... Dork.
Just because you dont want to talk about this subject, and feel you are intelectualy superior for your ability to publicly not enjoy things, doesnt qualify you to be calling anyone a dork...
However your trolling here does give all of us the right to to call YOU... a dork...
Don't take it too personal, just sayin' is all.... Dork.
Feel free to rate this one down too, I know how much the truth can hurt sometimes.
Not at all. In fact I pride myself on being such a dork. So much in fact that I gave you some rate-up luvvin'.
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publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.