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#1 Nov 09 2004 at 12:55 AM Rating: Decent
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&e=2&u=/ap/hiv_assault


OLYMPIA, Wash. - A man was convicted by a judge Monday on charges he deliberately exposed 17 women to HIV (news - web sites) by having unprotected sex with them. Five of the women have tested positive for the virus, which causes AIDS (news - web sites).



Anthony E. Whitfield, 32, faces a minimum sentence of 137 years in prison on the 17 counts of first-degree assault with sexual motivation and other charges.


Health officials said as many as 170 people may have been exposed to the virus because of Whitfield's actions, counting subsequent partners of women he slept with. No additional people have tested positive for HIV, but 45 refused to be tested or couldn't be found.


During the trial in Thurston County court, an Oklahoma prison official testified that Whitfield was diagnosed with HIV while incarcerated in 1992.


Two women testified that Whitfield once said, seemingly in jest, that if he had HIV, he would give it to as many people as he could.


Defense lawyer Charles Lane said Whitfield was addicted to methamphetamine and used women for shelter, money and sex but never meant to inflict "great bodily harm" as required for him to be convicted of first-degree assault.


while i think it is a horrible, vile, and destestable thing to do, but to allow charges to be pressed against those with HIV who transmit it to others sounds like a bad precedent to make.

the story is a little vague, but i imagine the women in this case arent too innocent either and are guilty of being dumb asses who need to practice safe sex. some of them had to be sluts. 17 women... up to 170 people potentially infected... thats on average 10 partners per woman.




#2 Nov 09 2004 at 1:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Guess the thing here is that he knowingly had unprotected sex. If he hadn't known he was HIV positive, then you worry about setting a bad precedent. Infact I'm not even sure this is precedent, believe there was a case in Fla. about this several years ago.
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#3 Nov 09 2004 at 1:06 AM Rating: Decent
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*shrug* i think it shouldnt be anyones responsibility to make sure they are safe for *you* to have sex with.

it isnt like he raped them and gave them aids on top of it. two consenting adults had unprotected sex.

awful? i definitly think so. but should it count as assault... i dont think so.
#4 Nov 09 2004 at 1:13 AM Rating: Decent
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We studied a case like this in my Civil Torts Class. Most states hold that if you knowingly expose anyone to a dangerous condition, you are liable for civil charges for monetary compensation. The idea of a person being criminally liable is just following from the precedence set in the civil cases.

Btw, the fact the women were less than pure doesn't have any bearing on the guilt of the person passing on the disease. The key is that he knowingly passed on the disease with the required aforethought ("he would give it to as many people as he could.") to show he had an "evil" intent.

The first thing my Crim Law Prof told the class was to NEVER say you would do anything bad under X circumstances (ie: I would love to Kill Mr.Bob) to anyone else....if that situtation actually occurs, you will likely be the person accused, whether you did the act or not.

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Edited, Tue Nov 9 01:34:19 2004 by Decsr
#5 Nov 09 2004 at 1:24 AM Rating: Good
Would it be any worse if he knowingly covered her with anthrax while fu[b][/b]cking her?
#6 Nov 09 2004 at 1:31 AM Rating: Decent
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#7 Nov 09 2004 at 4:51 AM Rating: Good
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No different than if he poisoned them with a slow and deadly poison. Fucker should fry.

'sides fuckers like him make it hard from me to get laid, and I use protection.
#8 Nov 09 2004 at 12:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Angry - it doesn't mean that the women involved slept with 10 men each. It means that the exposed people include a vector of everyone he had sex with, everyone they had sex with, everyone their partners subsequently had sex with, and on and on. Each woman might have had one or two partners subsequent to having had sex with him, but the disease vector is potentially much larger than that.

This is what makes containing communicable disease so challenging. STDs are even more so because of the stigma involved, and HIV in particular because of the privacy laws surrounding it (because it was a "gay" disease and gays were justifiably nervous about being singled out for vigilante punishment).

At any rate: if he knowingly, even deliberately, had unprotected sex with anyone after he was diagnosed without informing them, he is indeed liable for damages. He has condemned five women to death by his actions, and who knows how many of those vector cases.
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#9 Nov 09 2004 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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two consenting adults had unprotected sex.


she consented to have sex, she didn't consent to get aids, or to have sex with someone she knew was HIV positive
#10 Nov 09 2004 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
Anyone who has unprotected sex with people like this meth smoker is taking risks. Now they're pissed and want revenge on him. I agree that this case sets a poor precedent with no proof that he knew that he had HIV.

Now, if there's real proof that he knew that he had HIV, then there's a case. Just use a court order to undo Doctor/Patient Privilege and check his medical records.
#11 Nov 09 2004 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyone who has unprotected sex with people like this meth smoker is taking risks. Now they're pissed and want revenge on him. I agree that this case sets a poor precedent with no proof that he knew that he had HIV.


you take a risk stepping out of your house, if i came and stabbed your children in the face with a pair of scissors you wouldn't be saying "Anyone who steps outside with people like this meth smoker around is taking risks.", or maybe you would, and if you can really overcome emotions like that, then i look up to you
#12 Nov 09 2004 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
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ok... he screwed em knowin he had the virus, proof discovered while he was in jail, they have the records to prove it... so in my book... hes guilty... hang by the neck till dead, cuz hes a murderer now...

As for the sluts comment... do you realize that if just ONE of those girls has just A SINGLE other male sexual partner, it could be spread to the 20 other women that man screws??? Probly not...

and the guy screwed 17 girls himself, as if that isnt bad enuff... hes a 2 bit ***** everybit as much as any girl who sleeps with 10 guys on average.... think before you judge...

heheh and sounds like hes pissed at the world for his misfortune of getting HIV, so he plans on sharing the love and destroying hundreds of lives just because he couldnt keep his **** in his pants, or take the precaution of using a condom and common sense...

to the original poster... who is more stupid? the woman who has unprotected sex, or the man who who willy nilly engages in sexual activity with multiple partners as he pleases with out protection?

answer... both... so dont be posting that the womans a ***** and act like its her fualt for not usin protection... its everybit as much his fault... they consented, leaving them both open, so it makes them both stupid... but hes even more to blame because he engaged in this behavior knowing it would kill people...

Edited, Tue Nov 9 13:14:15 2004 by Maddstarr
#13 Nov 09 2004 at 1:30 PM Rating: Default
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Fornication is bad. This ain't the 60s. Keep your penises, vaginas, and ****' away from toxic substances, such as other penises, vaginas, and ****'. You will thank yourself.
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#15 Nov 09 2004 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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sounds like hes pissed at the world for his misfortune of getting HIV, so he plans on sharing the love and destroying hundreds of lives just because he couldnt keep his @#%^ in his pants


you heard it here first, folks! if you have AIDS, its yer own fault!
#16 Nov 09 2004 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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you heard it here first, folks! if you have AIDS, its yer own fault!


Was it good AIDS or bad AIDS?
#17 Nov 10 2004 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Damn right its your own fualt... if your too stupid to practice safe sex and get aids as a result, then you got no one to blame but yourself... It isnt that hard to have a blood test done, or put on a ******* condom now... and if you arent carrying one, you got no business ******** anyone either....

and if you think 30 mins of pleasure...is worth the loss of 30+ years of your life, then you are seriously ****** in the head...

now, getting aids from a blood transfusion is a totally diff story... contracting aids in that manner or anything like it is totally the fualt of someone else.... so dont say im generalizing that all poeple who contract aids is their own fualt...

Edited, Wed Nov 10 13:06:36 2004 by Maddstarr
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laviont wrote:
Fornication is bad. This ain't the 60s. Keep your penises, vaginas, and ****' away from toxic substances, such as other penises, vaginas, and ****'. You will thank yourself.

Aww, this means no more a[/b]ss-to-as[b]s parties? Smiley: frown
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#19 Nov 10 2004 at 1:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you read up on this case, he was using condoms (his partners had reason to believe they were practicing safe sex). However he had poked holes in the condoms specifically to infect his partners.


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#20 Nov 11 2004 at 11:02 AM Rating: Decent
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SamuriX,

This only goes to prove hes a murderer, and deserves to get whatever punishment god sees fit for him to have.....
#21 Nov 11 2004 at 11:33 AM Rating: Default
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SamiraX wrote:
If you read up on this case, he was using condoms (his partners had reason to believe they were practicing safe sex). However he had poked holes in the condoms specifically to infect his partners.




Even more reason to not fornicate.
#22 Nov 11 2004 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
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That's really sick... and unoriginal. They started putting the little air bubble in condom wrappers because in the 80s some really conservative (and mentally unstable) Catholic(s) who didn't believe in birth control went through a drugstore and poked holes through the packages. At least that's what I've heard, may have been urban legend. (I wouldn't buy an opened box of condoms :P)
#23 Nov 11 2004 at 11:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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SamiraX wrote:
If you read up on this case, he was using condoms (his partners had reason to believe they were practicing safe sex). However he had poked holes in the condoms specifically to infect his partners.
Maybe he was just using Lifestyles.
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#24 Nov 11 2004 at 11:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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Laviont, stop being a moran. Then you should also never **** outdoors for fear of hitting exposed electrical cables, never walk the dog for fear of a piano falling on your head, never vote for fear of another Bush family member being elected, etc. There are all kinds of things you can do that are supposed to be safe that you could hurt yourself doing. The difference is, while you could get cut or burned while cooking, someone else deciding to set fire to you or cut your intestines out is what is referred to as 'malicious intent' and that makes it not an accident, but a crime where the blame is squarely on the shoulders of the perpetrator.
#25 Nov 11 2004 at 11:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Maybe he was just using Lifestyles.


BAM!
#26 Nov 11 2004 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
The werid thing is that one of the girls is pregnant with his child and claims to be in love with him, despite everything he has done.
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