here are the facts, make your own decision....
fact, in florida, if the electorial college cannot decide on a winner, the florida legislature decides who gets floridas votes, REGUARDLESS of who won the majority.
the legislature is currently republican dominated with republicans holding 17 of the 23 seats. IE, bush stays in office unless the election beats the mandatory recount margine, and legal issues challenging the validity of the election can be solved.
1. there is no way to do a recount in dade and broward counties, the two largest counties in florida, vote wise. gov .jeb bush fought to not have a paper trial attached to our new electronic voting machines.
2. 60,000 absentee ballots for broward county were "lost" in the mail. 65 percent of the absentee ballots in election 2000 from broward county were for Gore.
3. the largest county of democratic voters, duval, recieved only "1" early voting site for the entire county, and it was downtown, where parking is expensive.
you make up your own mind. mine tells me this election, for florida anyway, is being hijacked before it even starts.
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You're being a nutty alarmist.
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The sky isn't falling.
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"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
I think you're overreacting a bit.
Though, I'm a bit worried about the electronic voting machines. It wouldn't be too hard for one of the programmers to just transfer one vote out of every 50 for whatever candidate to be a vote for the other. This could potentially cause the wrong candidate to win certain states. The last election proved that just a few votes can change a lot.
Even if this is discovered, it's very easy to write the original code in such a way that you wouldn't be able to figure out who really should have won. If you replace the 50 in my example above with a random number between 20 and 80 that is reselected each time a vote is transfered, you can't mathematically decide how many votes were transfered (without making assumptions).
Maybe I'm overreacting a bit.
Though, I'm a bit worried about the electronic voting machines. It wouldn't be too hard for one of the programmers to just transfer one vote out of every 50 for whatever candidate to be a vote for the other. This could potentially cause the wrong candidate to win certain states. The last election proved that just a few votes can change a lot.
Even if this is discovered, it's very easy to write the original code in such a way that you wouldn't be able to figure out who really should have won. If you replace the 50 in my example above with a random number between 20 and 80 that is reselected each time a vote is transfered, you can't mathematically decide how many votes were transfered (without making assumptions).
Maybe I'm overreacting a bit.
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rofl, nobby your picture thingy just rocks.
nice work.
nice work.
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Nobby wrote:
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I disagree.
And to think, after your forefathers suffered in Valley Forge and won at Saratoga.... What kind of nut wants to pay for parking?!
Right. If I were a politician running for president, and my baby brother was the governor of a state, I'd expect him to win the state for me. Or I'd give him a wedgie.
Heheheh. Looks like I might lose a bet. This is rediculous that people have become so greedy as to cheat their way into office. I like a nice fair competition of wit, character, knowledge, wisdom, integrity, and character. What happened to that ****?
What happened to people being behind their candidate enough to pay for parking to get him into office? Where have the patriots gone?
What happened to people being behind their candidate enough to pay for parking to get him into office? Where have the patriots gone?
Nobby, no muppet avatar?
In the famous words of E-40:
"Nobody's playin by the rules anymore, not even the people that made em up. My hood is corrupt and filled with infedelity, and poverty, not too much faithfulness mostly all betrayal, most of my niggas is dead or locked away in jail."
"Nobody's playin by the rules anymore, not even the people that made em up. My hood is corrupt and filled with infedelity, and poverty, not too much faithfulness mostly all betrayal, most of my niggas is dead or locked away in jail."
The Dems missed a great opportunity. Had they organized they could have created such a traffic jam in the city that it would have made media coverage (and shown how deep the support for Kerry is) instead, they wanted to be victims. Only in America
Hey Lefein, if me and you talk to each other right now, would we be considered crazy(er) since we are the same person(kermit the frog)?
Lefein isn't Kermit, he's Robin.
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Nobby, no muppet avatar?
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I'm Robin, not Kermit... Did you get the memo?
This whole thing is pretty stupid, but this one really takes the cake.
3. the largest county of democratic voters, duval, recieved only "1" early voting site for the entire county, and it was downtown, where parking is expensive.
Um. Excuse me? So if we're going to make the first assumption that "Republican voters have more money then Democrat voters", then there's a huge flaw here. Wouldn't that punish Republicans more then Dems? Would seem to me that poor people would ride the bus more then middle class folks. Wouldn't putting the polling place in an area with minimal and expensive parking be more likely to deter middle class voters living in the suburbs more? Most "poor" areas have the best bus service in my experience. And downtown areas (the ones with the expensive parking) also have excellent bus service.
Dunno. I'm not seeing it.
shadowrelm wrote:
3. the largest county of democratic voters, duval, recieved only "1" early voting site for the entire county, and it was downtown, where parking is expensive.
Um. Excuse me? So if we're going to make the first assumption that "Republican voters have more money then Democrat voters", then there's a huge flaw here. Wouldn't that punish Republicans more then Dems? Would seem to me that poor people would ride the bus more then middle class folks. Wouldn't putting the polling place in an area with minimal and expensive parking be more likely to deter middle class voters living in the suburbs more? Most "poor" areas have the best bus service in my experience. And downtown areas (the ones with the expensive parking) also have excellent bus service.
Dunno. I'm not seeing it.
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Nobby wrote:
SJR wrote:
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SJR, i like it.
jacksonville (duval county), while the largest county in florida land wise, is mostly impoverished. the city is over 50 percent black, and low income. there is no industry there. you either work for a bank, or you are white, and work for the anhauser bush plant (yes, they are prejudiced as hell)
i used to live there. i know.
so yes, they are predominantly democratic, and predominatly less well off financially than not only most republicans, but less well off than most every one else in florida all together.
the issue of only one early voting site, downtown, in such a large spread out city, was brought up many many times during the planning. and ignored.
miami, predominatly republican cuban american, has 23 early voting sites in contrast, in a county about half the size as jacksonville, land wise.
make your own decision.
i used to live there. i know.
so yes, they are predominantly democratic, and predominatly less well off financially than not only most republicans, but less well off than most every one else in florida all together.
the issue of only one early voting site, downtown, in such a large spread out city, was brought up many many times during the planning. and ignored.
miami, predominatly republican cuban american, has 23 early voting sites in contrast, in a county about half the size as jacksonville, land wise.
make your own decision.
Um. Excuse me? So if we're going to make the first assumption that "Republican voters have more money then Democrat voters", then there's a huge flaw here. Wouldn't that punish Republicans more then Dems? Would seem to me that poor people would ride the bus more then middle class folks.
I think the point was that it was in the most heavily Democratic area resluting in less overall votes due to inconvienence, not that Republicans were more likely to pay for parking.
But then I have the ability to read for comprehention instead of attributing wildly fantastic hidden menaings to things, so you probably came up with something diffrent out of that.
Fool.
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gbaji wrote:
This whole thing is pretty stupid, but this one really takes the cake.
3. the largest county of democratic voters, duval, recieved only "1" early voting site for the entire county, and it was downtown, where parking is expensive.
Um. Excuse me? So if we're going to make the first assumption that "Republican voters have more money then Democrat voters", then there's a huge flaw here. Wouldn't that punish Republicans more then Dems? Would seem to me that poor people would ride the bus more then middle class folks. Wouldn't putting the polling place in an area with minimal and expensive parking be more likely to deter middle class voters living in the suburbs more? Most "poor" areas have the best bus service in my experience. And downtown areas (the ones with the expensive parking) also have excellent bus service.
Dunno. I'm not seeing it.
shadowrelm wrote:
3. the largest county of democratic voters, duval, recieved only "1" early voting site for the entire county, and it was downtown, where parking is expensive.
Um. Excuse me? So if we're going to make the first assumption that "Republican voters have more money then Democrat voters", then there's a huge flaw here. Wouldn't that punish Republicans more then Dems? Would seem to me that poor people would ride the bus more then middle class folks. Wouldn't putting the polling place in an area with minimal and expensive parking be more likely to deter middle class voters living in the suburbs more? Most "poor" areas have the best bus service in my experience. And downtown areas (the ones with the expensive parking) also have excellent bus service.
Dunno. I'm not seeing it.
What a left coast idiot!!! They don't have buses everywhere, Gbaji!
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