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#52 Oct 19 2004 at 12:37 PM Rating: Default
Oman...
#53 Oct 19 2004 at 12:39 PM Rating: Default
Azerbaijan
#54 Oct 19 2004 at 12:40 PM Rating: Default
Oh look! Thats 3 for me!
#55 Oct 19 2004 at 12:41 PM Rating: Decent
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No ones answered the question, big surprise.


I did, in the second post. Big surprise, you ignored it.
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#56 Oct 19 2004 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Oman and Kuqait are both allies with monetary intrests in the Bush family. Azerbijan would have been more difficult than Iraq because of Terain.

Keep trying though. Venezuala has a lot of oil. Maybe they would have been a better target.
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#57 Oct 19 2004 at 12:52 PM Rating: Default
Terrain compared to what? The damn tunnels and mountains we were fighting in during afghanistan? or maybe worse than the cities we've been fighting in during Iraq? Also, I dont believe the money issue would change for the Bush family once we took them over. I mean it would be Bush and his cronies taking over the oil buisness there right?
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The damn tunnels and mountains we were fighting in during afghanistan
Afghanistan has nothing to do with whether or not we were in Iraq due to oil.
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#59 Oct 19 2004 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Also, I dont believe the money issue would change for the Bush family once we took them over. I mean it would be Bush and his cronies taking over the oil buisness there right?


Somehow I think people might be hesitant to invest in your private buisness after you invade their country.
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#60 Oct 19 2004 at 1:07 PM Rating: Default
Joph.. it helps if you pay attention. We have moved on from that and was arguing that the terrain in Az isnt as much of a factor as Smashi says it is.
#61 Oct 19 2004 at 1:08 PM Rating: Default
Im sorry.. we were talking about INVADING these places Smash.. not visiting.
#62 Oct 19 2004 at 1:51 PM Rating: Default
Smashed,

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By offering them a peice of the oil and the reconstruction contracts.


Is this your answer? So you would have the U.S. bribe countries with oil to aid us in the protection of our liberty?

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#63 Oct 19 2004 at 1:56 PM Rating: Default
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Joph.. it helps if you pay attention. We have moved on from that and was arguing that the terrain in Az isnt as much of a factor as Smashi says it is.

It isn't? It looks to me like Az is rugged and mountainous (like Afgh.) as opposed to flat and sandy, like Iraq. Which do you think would be more troublesome? I mean, sure we can bomb Az. flat (like Afgh.) but then we need to spend the next five years raking through the resulting mountains of gravel (like Afgh.)
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Smashed,

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By offering them a peice of the oil and the reconstruction contracts.


Is this your answer? So you would have the U.S. bribe countries with oil to aid us in the protection of our liberty?


After Dubya told the rest of the civilized world to fu[b][/b]ck off, we'll do it ourselves? Or do you still think we can finish it ourselves - without instituting another draft?

How would you handle the situation? The Brits are about to lynch Blair; then whatcha gonna do?
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#65 Oct 19 2004 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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Let me also tell you that you support the mindset that American boys and girls have to die to keep feul in your SUV! **********


I drive an SUV. Does that make me a Di[u][/u]ckhead?

Edited, Tue Oct 19 15:19:18 2004 by xythex
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#66 Oct 19 2004 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
varrussword wrote:
Smashed,

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By offering them a peice of the oil and the reconstruction contracts.


Is this your answer? So you would have the U.S. bribe countries with oil to aid us in the protection of our liberty?

Varus


No, it's called putting something on the table so that the strain on US forces can be alleviated... Even just a little. Oh, and putting a larger international face on their struggle for Democracy instead of an American one.
#67 Oct 19 2004 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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I drive an SUV. Does that make me a Di[li][/li]ckhead?

Lol, worst swear filter bypass...ever! ;)





Edited, Tue Oct 19 15:20:12 2004 by trickybeck
#68 Oct 19 2004 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
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HEY LEF! You ****** Dumbass! If this were about oil dont you think we'd invade somewhere that they wouldnt fight back? I can think of a few not too far from where we are we could have done that too and is worth way more than IRAQ. Go research oil over there and then take a great big look at the map. You are a dumbass if you believe what the media has fed you.


Iraq is one of the few countries that has its own arrable land. It also has a relatively cosmpolitan popluace (at least compared ot its neighbors) It's directly in the center of the middle east and shares borders with both Syria and Iran. Come on, it was THE most logical target for regime change and destabilization of Middle East politics (which is a good thing) it also has an assload of oil.. Now, if our intentions are purely for the good of the people then why do we turn people AWAY?? That is the reality I am putting forward. Im not saying the war itself was over just oil.. Im saying that it at least looks like a major factor in the whole thing. Oil should not be even a reason to invade a country. That would be like China invading us for our Cheetos.

Edited, Tue Oct 19 15:23:26 2004 by Lefein
#69 Oct 19 2004 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
and yes, it makes you a ********* Consumption has driven the price of gasoline astronomically. You should be free to have an SUV and thats great and all but do you think you could drive a hybrid to and from work and save the SUV for family occasions?
#70 Oct 19 2004 at 2:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Joph.. it helps if you pay attention. We have moved on from that and was arguing that the terrain in Az isnt as much of a factor as Smashi says it is.
Apparently, I need to spell it out for you:
(1) You say that there are better targets for a war for oil than Iraq
(2) Smash asks you to name some
(3) You say, among others, Azerbaijan
(4) Smash says the terrain in Azerbaijan isn't as hospitible to an invasion as Iraq's
(5) You start babbling about the terrain in Afghanistan as if that were somehow relevant
(6) I point out it's not relevant
(7) You try to pretend I'm not paying attention
(8) I prove you wrong yet again
(9) Humiliated, you resort to calling me a dog fu[b][/b]cker or pedeophile or some other well worn phrase

Whoops.. looks like I got a bit ahead of myself there.
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#71 Oct 19 2004 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
Its okay Joph, I stated some of the tactical reasons why Iraq was a logical choice. Azerbaijan wouldnt have anywhere near the geopolitical effect that Iraq does. Plus Iraq is a great candidiate for democracy since they can grow their own food and dont have a one dimensional economic structure. I like how people cant see beyond simple cause and effect... As if there has to be a single reason to do anything.
#72 Oct 19 2004 at 2:53 PM Rating: Default
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I thought it was about terrain....not location.
Flat, sandy, slightly marshy vs. mountainous wilderness.
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#73 Oct 19 2004 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
You assume the war was simply over oil, or that we would have just waged war with any random country that had oil. I think you guys underestimate Bush greatly. I'm not saying he's a great guy, but you guys are lasering in on just one aspect of things to satisfy your ideology.
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we would have just waged war with any random country that had oil


Psst, now they want our oil and our flu vaccines!!

Jihad!!!

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I'm not saying the war WAS all about oil. I'm saying if we DID just want oil, Iraq's terrain is easier to fight a war in than Azerbaijan's is. Which isn't even to say that we COULDN'T fight in Azerbaijan, but you won't find a commander who'd want to wage an invasion into mountains instead of a nice tank battle in the desert.
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#76 Oct 19 2004 at 3:11 PM Rating: Default
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Katie's really the only one trying to push the oil agenda. She is a Texan, after all.
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