Oh so Kerry was asked about Cheneys lesbian daugther, I must have missed that part.
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Varus I saw all three debates, even the Vice Presedential. Cheney's daughter recieved the utmost repsect when metioned. Did you notice at the end of every debate she was greeted warmly by Kerry and his family? ALL personal attacks have been limited to Kerry, Bush, Edwards, and Cheney. Other people have been metioned and referred to, mostly as leverage to each camp's own agendas, but not in a negative way.
I have to ask you, why is it so bad to use Cheney's daughter as a reference to gay marraiges?
Gadin
I have to ask you, why is it so bad to use Cheney's daughter as a reference to gay marraiges?
Gadin
Oh so Kerry was asked about Cheneys lesbian daugther, I must have missed that part.
What was the question Varrus?
Go look it up and come back and talk about it, since it's clear that you have no idea.
Too funny, man. You have no idea what you're talking about all, do you?
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
I believe the question was "Do you think Homosexuality is a choice?" Are you implying that Kerry would have been unable to answer this question without bring Cheney's daughter into the equation?
I believe the question was "Do you think Homosexuality is a choice?" Are you implying that Kerry would have been unable to answer this question without bring Cheney's daughter into the equation?
No, but I beleive that without using someone known personally by the President he couldn't have demonstrated the hypocracy of Bush's position clearly.
Can you reccomend an alternate openly gay person the Preident would know?
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Not really sure who is on GWB's friend's list. The point still remains that people were turned off by it and not just the Cheney's.
I notice you havnt linked an instance of somethign of like this happening before.
I notice you havnt linked an instance of somethign of like this happening before.
I notice you havnt linked an instance of somethign of like this happening before.
It happens all the time.
Dukakis was asked what he'd do if someone raped and murdered his wife.
What sort of example do you want?
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
I know the GOP is desperate at this point. Trying anything they can to make up for Bush's disasterous debate performances, but I'm a little fuzzy on what their problem with Kerry mentining Cheney's gay daughter is.
Are Cheney and his wfie embarassed by her? It would certainly seem so. It disgusts me that they would use one of thier own children as a political tool. I mean I understand how frustrating it must be for them to be displayed as obvious hypocrites on the gay issue, but one would think they'd be used to it by now. I mean they're hypoctires on the war, on taxes, on pretty much every issue, really.
Why is this one bothering them so much?
Are Cheney and his wfie embarassed by her? It would certainly seem so. It disgusts me that they would use one of thier own children as a political tool. I mean I understand how frustrating it must be for them to be displayed as obvious hypocrites on the gay issue, but one would think they'd be used to it by now. I mean they're hypoctires on the war, on taxes, on pretty much every issue, really.
Why is this one bothering them so much?
I asked myself this same question.
Cheney is embarassed. Did you see his face when Edwards mentioned it in the VP debates? He looked like he wanted to kill Edwards.
As for the assertion that Kerry is trying to "drive a wedge between Cheney and Bush, the fact of the matter is that that wedge is already there.
Bush is AGAINST homosexuality as is his base....and Cheney is not. It shows the inherent hypocrisy of this administration and the willingness to pander and do whatever is politically expedient.
this is the exact question asked.
Question 6: Do you believe homosexuality is a choice?
SCHIEFFER: Mr. President, let's get back to economic issues. But let's shift to some other questions here.
Both of you are opposed to gay marriage. But to understand how you have come to that conclusion, I want to ask you a more basic question.
Do you believe homosexuality is a choice?
Bush's answer
SCHIEFFER: Sen. Kerry?
KERRY: We're all God's children, Bob. And I think if you were to talk to **** Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as.
I think if you talk to anybody, it's not choice. I've met people who struggled with this for years, people who were in a marriage because they were living a sort of convention, and they struggled with it.
And I've met wives who are supportive of their husbands or vice versa when they finally sort of broke out and allowed themselves to live who they were, who they felt God had made them.
I think we have to respect that.
The president and I share the belief that marriage is between a man and a woman. I believe that. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman.
But I also believe that because we are the United States of America, we're a country with a great, unbelievable Constitution, with rights that we afford people, that you can't discriminate in the workplace. You can't discriminate in the rights that you afford people.
You can't disallow someone the right to visit their partner in a hospital. You have to allow people to transfer property, which is why I'm for partnership rights and so forth.
Now, with respect to DOMA and the marriage laws, the states have always been able to manage those laws. And they're proving today, every state, that they can manage them adequately.
Say what you want but the 1st part of the answer was clearly not needed. I was just a cheap shot and most people saw that way.
Question 6: Do you believe homosexuality is a choice?
SCHIEFFER: Mr. President, let's get back to economic issues. But let's shift to some other questions here.
Both of you are opposed to gay marriage. But to understand how you have come to that conclusion, I want to ask you a more basic question.
Do you believe homosexuality is a choice?
Bush's answer
SCHIEFFER: Sen. Kerry?
KERRY: We're all God's children, Bob. And I think if you were to talk to **** Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as.
I think if you talk to anybody, it's not choice. I've met people who struggled with this for years, people who were in a marriage because they were living a sort of convention, and they struggled with it.
And I've met wives who are supportive of their husbands or vice versa when they finally sort of broke out and allowed themselves to live who they were, who they felt God had made them.
I think we have to respect that.
The president and I share the belief that marriage is between a man and a woman. I believe that. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman.
But I also believe that because we are the United States of America, we're a country with a great, unbelievable Constitution, with rights that we afford people, that you can't discriminate in the workplace. You can't discriminate in the rights that you afford people.
You can't disallow someone the right to visit their partner in a hospital. You have to allow people to transfer property, which is why I'm for partnership rights and so forth.
Now, with respect to DOMA and the marriage laws, the states have always been able to manage those laws. And they're proving today, every state, that they can manage them adequately.
Say what you want but the 1st part of the answer was clearly not needed. I was just a cheap shot and most people saw that way.
Yeah, that quote is really damning.
I dont hate gay people. however I thought it was a cheap shot. the vast majority of the focus groups viewing the debate thought it was too. It really isnt a matter of what the subject is as more the fact that Kerry used the child of the Vice President as a political tool. That's what turned people off not that Cheney's daughter is gay.
Hey Pickle believe what you want. If it was no big deal why did Kerry apoligise? Couldnt have been that he saw polling that showed a large number of people thought his comment was out of line could it?
DamthebiTch wrote:
I dont hate gay people. however I thought it was a cheap shot. the vast majority of the focus groups viewing the debate thought it was too. It really isnt a matter of what the subject is as more the fact that Kerry used the child of the Vice President as a political tool. That's what turned people off not that Cheney's daughter is gay.
It didn't "turn" anybody off except some insider wonks from inside the Beltway.
And he simply stated in so many words that Cheney's daughter should have the same rights as everyone else.
The only reason you care is that it makes the administration look very, very hypocritical.
If it was no big deal why did Kerry apoligise?
Can you link the apology please?
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
IF you turn your filter on, Smash is the only one in this thread, lol.
It's obvious Varrus that you think it is an insult to be called gay, even when it's true.
I do think it was poor judgment on Kerry's part to mention Kerry's daughter, becasue of people like Varrus.
It's obvious Varrus that you think it is an insult to be called gay, even when it's true.
I do think it was poor judgment on Kerry's part to mention Kerry's daughter, becasue of people like Varrus.
My opinion on this is that Kerry used his opponents family against him in his debate. I think this is the underlying reason so many are upset about it. It's one thing in the cadidates eyes to use a nameless person to make your point. But when you bring your opponents daughter and show the world they are hypocrites to their own flesh and blood it's a bullseye hit.
Personally I do not think anyone should be using family members in their discussions. However, Cheneys daughter doesnt have an issue about being used that I have heard of, only her parents. She is an adult not someone under 18. She is proud of her prefrence, as well she should be. I think if shes ok with it then the mass people should respect that.
Just my
Personally I do not think anyone should be using family members in their discussions. However, Cheneys daughter doesnt have an issue about being used that I have heard of, only her parents. She is an adult not someone under 18. She is proud of her prefrence, as well she should be. I think if shes ok with it then the mass people should respect that.
Just my
It was a "clarification" sorry misquoted.
“I love my daughters. They love their daughter. I was trying to say something positive about the way strong families deal with this issue,”
thats the quote was from the AARP convention in Vegas.
got that link of a candidate using the Presidents/VP's children as pawns yet???
“I love my daughters. They love their daughter. I was trying to say something positive about the way strong families deal with this issue,”
thats the quote was from the AARP convention in Vegas.
got that link of a candidate using the Presidents/VP's children as pawns yet???
got that link of a candidate using the Presidents/VP's children as pawns yet???
Like when Bush's campaign called primary voters reminding them McCain had a black kid?
I can link that if you want.
It's really, really, not unussual.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
DamthebiTch wrote:
It was a "clarification" sorry misquoted.
got that link of the President/VP using the the American people as pawns yet???
got that link of the President/VP using the the American people as pawns yet???
Uhhh....fixed.
She brought herself into the debate when she made statements about the gay marriage amendment months ago. Was it a cheap shot? I don't think it was. He was driving home the point that maybe if Bush listened to people he KNOWS (like Cheney's daughter who I'm sure he's met) that are gay or lesbian, that they would tell him it's not a choice.
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Like when Bush's campaign called primary voters reminding them McCain had a black kid?
"Hi, we're a 'polling firm' and would like to ask if John McCain's interracial child born outside of marriage affects your opinion about him?"
(Never mind that the child was adopted by McCain's family, not his genetic child)
I've heard lots of Mr & Mrs Cheney complaining and no statement from li'l Cheney. Unless the filter ate some stimulating post with a quote, does anyone know if Mary actually spoke about this or is it all shock and horror from mom and dad?
Edited, Fri Oct 15 13:09:52 2004 by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Friar,
Actually I think it's an insult to bring someone into a debate that's not overtly been part of the campaign. If he had done it in a sincere way, which I don't see how he could have, then that would be different. But he all but accused the vice-president of being homophobic towards his own daughter and that's just wrong. But you spin it however lets you sleep at night.
Varus
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It's obvious Varrus that you think it is an insult to be called gay, even when it's true.
Actually I think it's an insult to bring someone into a debate that's not overtly been part of the campaign. If he had done it in a sincere way, which I don't see how he could have, then that would be different. But he all but accused the vice-president of being homophobic towards his own daughter and that's just wrong. But you spin it however lets you sleep at night.
Varus
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