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#1 Oct 14 2004 at 1:57 PM Rating: Default
Threat or Nuisance: A Handy Terrorist Guide
In January 2004, John Kerry revealed his September 10th mindset regarding terrorism when he said that he sees terrorism as "primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation." That's the same Clintonian approach to the problem that allowed al-Qaeda to grow unchecked before 9/11. Despite his recent strong statements about fighting the war on terror (almost always followed by a "but," however) Kerry still doesn't seem to understand the seriousness of the war we're fighting. In a recent New York Times Magazine interview, Kerry stated, "We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance." A nuisance? When were terrorists ever a "nuisance" to the innocent people they murdered? Could Kerry really be saying that it was right to ignore them as long as they only bombed other countries... and that it would be that way again? How can we ever go back to the ignorant, blind "place we were" before 9/11... and would we want to?



What exactly is a "nuisance level" of terrorism, anyway? How were terrorists only a nuisance before 9/11, when they suddenly (in Kerry's world) became a threat? How can you tell when your terrorists are at that mythical, tolerable September 10th level? A handy guide might help.

Nuisance: Terrorists who set a bag of dog crap on fire on the doormat, then ring the bell and run away.
Threat: Terrorists who set up IEDs (Improvised Explosive Devices) and run away.

Nuisance: Terrorists who give their victims a wedgie.
Threat: Terrorists who behead their victims on video.

Nuisance: Terrorists who wear outrageous clothing to make a statement.
Threat: Terrorists who commit mass murder to make a statement.

Nuisance: Terrorists who demand your lunch money.
Threat: Terrorists who demand criminals be freed from prison.

Nuisance: Terrorists who take pennies from the "take a penny" dish at the 7-11 without ever leaving one.
Threat: Terrorists who take hostages.

Nuisance: Terrorists who steal cars for a joyride.
Threat: Terrorists who blow up cars.

Nuisance: Terrorists who skip school.
Threat: Terrorists who take over schools.

Nuisance: Terrorists with spitballs.
Threat: Terrorists with weapons of mass destruction.

Nuisance: Terrorists who paint graffiti on buildings.
Threat: Terrorists who blow up buildings.

Nuisance: Terrorists who send 'spam' email.
Threat: Terrorists who send anthrax in the mail.

Nuisance: Terrorists who blast loud music while you are trying to sleep.
Threat: Terrorists who blast national monuments, mosques, churches...

Nuisance: Terrorists who spend their time hanging out at the mall.
Threat: Terrorists who spend their time plotting to blow up the mall.

Perhaps when terrorists are reduced to the threat level of high school juvenile delinquents, we can treat them as such. As long as they continue to plot mass murder and destruction, I suggest we continue to fight them -- and those who train, harbor and support them -- exactly as we've begun.

Sad that the democraps cant understand this stuff. I know its too complicated for them to understand so maybe this will help them get the facts straight.
#2 Oct 14 2004 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2004

Read it.
#3 Oct 14 2004 at 2:03 PM Rating: Good
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http://www.shutupanddieyouarenotaninterestingposterseriouslyyoureallyneedtoreevaluateyourlife.com

Read it.


Good idea, pickle.

You have that website bookmarked, right?
#4 Oct 14 2004 at 2:05 PM Rating: Default
*cough* Read This *cough*

Election 2004

Presidential Ballot

Bush 48.1%
Kerry 45.9%
Other 2.4%
Not Sure 3.7%
RasmussenReports.com


Oh thats right. Ok.

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#5 Oct 14 2004 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
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I love these little e-mails or whatever that oversimplify everything. Nuisance-Threat-Nuisance-Threat, it reminds me of that e-mail posted a while ago with the father making his 8-year-old son cry with his neighborhood-terrorist analogies.

Why should terrorist be an intelligence and law enforcement operation? Because you can't fight a war on terror. There's no Peoples Republic of Terroronia you can go in and disarm.

It's like trying to fight a war on computer viruses. Going around bombing the hackers won't do any good, you've got to set up firewalls (law enforcement) and come up with better, more secure programming (intelligence).

#6 Oct 14 2004 at 2:11 PM Rating: Good
Polls are gax and a total waste of time.

Much like the OP.

Polls are conducted to make people who took statistics in highschool/college feel better about wasting so many days/hours/months of their lifes.
#7 Oct 14 2004 at 2:11 PM Rating: Default
Oh the intelligence that John Kerry wanted to financially cripple?

Or maybe the defense that Bush boosted up from 10 billion - 30 billion.

You do the math genious.
#8 Oct 14 2004 at 2:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Is that anything like Bush saying we can't win the war on terror?

So when Kerry says he wants to lower the level of terrorism, that's a sudden cry that Kerry can't keep us safe. But President George "Can't win the war on terror" Bush backpedals from his comment and he's the guy for the job?

Both sides sound retarded arguing on this point and the use of semantics is getting to the point of desperation.
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#9 Oct 14 2004 at 2:12 PM Rating: Default
Polls are conducted to make people who took statistics in highschool/college feel better about wasting so many days/hours/months of their lifes.

Oh ok.

So all the dummycraps who were saying h00ray we won the debates look at the polls? Much like yourself are just a way to make you feel better? Lol you and the rest of the democratic posters here just get dumber by the minute.
#10 Oct 14 2004 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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Oh the intelligence that John Kerry wanted to financially cripple?

Or maybe the defense that Bush boosted up from 10 billion - 30 billion.

You do the math genious.


Don't forget the wetlands that Bush increased by 3 million.

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#11 Oct 14 2004 at 2:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think Skeet has ever said "Hooray, Kerry won".

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#12 Oct 14 2004 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Threat or Nuisance: A Handy Terrorist Guide
In January 2004, John Kerry revealed his September 10th mindset regarding terrorism when he said that he sees terrorism as "primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation." That's the same Clintonian approach to the problem that allowed al-Qaeda to grow unchecked before 9/11. Despite his recent strong statements about fighting the war on terror (almost always followed by a "but," however) Kerry still doesn't seem to understand the seriousness of the war we're fighting. In a recent New York Times Magazine interview, Kerry stated, "We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance." A nuisance? When were terrorists ever a "nuisance" to the innocent people they murdered? Could Kerry really be saying that it was right to ignore them as long as they only bombed other countries... and that it would be that way again? How can we ever go back to the ignorant, blind "place we were" before 9/11... and would we want to?



What exactly is a "nuisance level" of terrorism, anyway? How were terrorists only a nuisance before 9/11, when they suddenly (in Kerry's world) became a threat? How can you tell when your terrorists are at that mythical, tolerable September 10th level? A handy guide might help.

Nuisance: Terrorists who set a bag of dog crap on fire on the doormat, then ring the bell and run away.
Threat: Terrorists who set up IEDs (Improvised Explosive Devices) and run away.

Nuisance: Terrorists who give their victims a wedgie.
Threat: Terrorists who behead their victims on video.

Nuisance: Terrorists who wear outrageous clothing to make a statement.
Threat: Terrorists who commit mass murder to make a statement.

Nuisance: Terrorists who demand your lunch money.
Threat: Terrorists who demand criminals be freed from prison.

Nuisance: Terrorists who take pennies from the "take a penny" dish at the 7-11 without ever leaving one.
Threat: Terrorists who take hostages.

Nuisance: Terrorists who steal cars for a joyride.
Threat: Terrorists who blow up cars.

Nuisance: Terrorists who skip school.
Threat: Terrorists who take over schools.

Nuisance: Terrorists with spitballs.
Threat: Terrorists with weapons of mass destruction.

Nuisance: Terrorists who paint graffiti on buildings.
Threat: Terrorists who blow up buildings.

Nuisance: Terrorists who send 'spam' email.
Threat: Terrorists who send anthrax in the mail.

Nuisance: Terrorists who blast loud music while you are trying to sleep.
Threat: Terrorists who blast national monuments, mosques, churches...

Nuisance: Terrorists who spend their time hanging out at the mall.
Threat: Terrorists who spend their time plotting to blow up the mall.

Perhaps when terrorists are reduced to the threat level of high school juvenile delinquents, we can treat them as such. As long as they continue to plot mass murder and destruction, I suggest we continue to fight them -- and those who train, harbor and support them -- exactly as we've begun.

Sad that the democraps cant understand this stuff. I know its too complicated for them to understand so maybe this will help them get the facts straight.


By allowing terrorism to guide our every thought they have won. See, the terrorists have already lost Elsahn. If they could win they would draw a line in the sand and go to battle. They can't, so they resort to violence to change our society. Yes, we have to dilligently root them out wherever they hide. That doesnt mean that we need to spend every waking moment of our lives thinking about them though. When you allow terrorists to take precedence over your own national priorities, then you have lost.
#13 Oct 14 2004 at 2:16 PM Rating: Default
Read the threads on debates before you post Jophiel it might make ya post some true things first.

And its funny how skeetedon mentions wetlands when the OP is about Kerrys idiotic nuisance and threat definitions.

Smiley: laugh idiot Smiley: laugh

#14 Oct 14 2004 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent
Polls are conducted to make people who took statistics in highschool/college feel better about wasting so many days/hours/months of their lifes.

Gah, I resemble that remark.

Statistics IS a handy tool. I use it for product sales analysis and warehouse profiling. Polls aren't good for much, except keeping mostly useless people employed. God knows I wouldn't want any pollsters working around here.



#15 Oct 14 2004 at 2:18 PM Rating: Default
"See, the terrorists have already lost Elsahn"

You couldn't be anymore correct. I dont fear them. I know with Dubya as president I don't have to worry about them. But with Kerry as president... how does that saying go...

"Kerry lied while many died" Referring to 1971-1975

Well adios ladies its time to go to work.

Be back on at 1am.
#16 Oct 14 2004 at 2:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Read the threads on debates before you post Jophiel
Want to be more vague?

Hey! Read the threads on politics! Then you'll see the answers!
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#17 Oct 14 2004 at 2:22 PM Rating: Good
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You couldn't be anymore correct. I dont fear them. I know with Dubya as president I don't have to worry about them.


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#18 Oct 14 2004 at 2:25 PM Rating: Good
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Just to hi-jack, has anyone noticed the strictly republican practice of making puns out of things?

Dummycrat, Dummycrap, Hollyweird Hatefest/Whoopi Coushin, John F'in Kerry, etc.

There's more, I just can't think of them now.

And it's not just on this board, I see it all over the place.

#19 Oct 14 2004 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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Oh yes, and please link to the post where Skeet used a poll to determine the winner of a debate.

You make the accusation, you prove it.

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From now on we refer to them as Repubelicans. Because you know pubes are funny to 13 year olds so it should be easy to get the joke :)
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Coalition of the Wild-Eyed?

Yeah, I've noticed it. Stick 'n stones, etc etc et al.
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#22 Oct 14 2004 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Elsahn wrote:
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Polls are conducted to make people who took statistics in highschool/college feel better about wasting so many days/hours/months of their lifes.

Oh ok.

So all the dummycraps who were saying h00ray we won the debates look at the polls? Much like yourself are just a way to make you feel better? Lol you and the rest of the democratic posters here just get dumber by the minute.


Jophiel in another thread wrote:
A quick debate poll roundup from Electoral-Vote.com:

After the debate, a Gallup poll showed Kerry to be the winner 52% to 39%, not far from expectations. A CBS poll of uncommitted voters after the debate showed that 39% thought Kerry had won and 25% thought Bush had won. An ABC News poll showed Kerry barely won, 42% to 41%. However, the ABC poll had 38% Republicans and 30% Democrats, so breaking even in a group skewed towards the GOP has to be considered a Kerry win.

Quoting polls tends to be rather arbitrary and subjective. They're rather useless to base an argument on. Here, look I found another polling site that shows Bush the winner:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm

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Presidential Tracking Poll: Bush-Kerry

Thursday October 14, 2004--The debates are over and there's less than three weeks until Election Day. The Rasmussen Reports Presidential Tracking Poll shows President George W. Bush with 48% of the vote and Senator John Kerry with 46%.

And yet another showing a statistical dead heat:

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General Election Trial Heat:

Bush Kerry Nader Badnarik Peroutka Cobb Other/Unsure
% % % % % % %
10/11-13/04 46 45 1 1 - - 7
10/10-12/04 45 45 2 1 - - 8
10/9-11/04 45 45 2 - - - 8
10/8-10/04 44 47 2 - - - 7
10/7-9/04 45 46 1 - - - 8
10/6-8/04 45 46 1 - - - 7
10/5-7/04 46 45 2 - - - 7
10/4-6/04 46 44 2 - - - 8

So polls don't necessarily mean anything, except whichever bias you're looking for.

goddam formatting. /sigh
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#23 Oct 14 2004 at 2:31 PM Rating: Good
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You forget Democrap, John Flip-floppin' Kerry, Bill Clintoon, the Ambiguously Gay Duo, and Jacka$$ party.

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#24 Oct 14 2004 at 2:32 PM Rating: Good
I have used percentages though, 92% of the posters that read that thread thought it was funny.
#25 Oct 14 2004 at 2:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Read the threads on debates before you post Jophiel it might make ya post some true things first.

Um, if you read the debate threads you'd notice that Joph does in fact read and even contribute. Instead of starting up a separate thread for each silly little bit of propaganda you want to push. I swear, varrus and Elsahn are looking more and more like the same person.
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#26 Oct 14 2004 at 2:36 PM Rating: Good
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John Flip-floppin' Kerry

As oppossed to Bush http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=118263

Bill Clintoon

Are you still bringing him up? I cant see you problem with a guy that loved BJ's and resided over a major period of economic expansion.


the Ambiguously Gay Duo
As opposed to an openly gay republican govenor?


Edited, Thu Oct 14 15:41:50 2004 by bhodisattva
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