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#1 Oct 14 2004 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
I'm not sure if this has brought up before, but I'm not gonna dig through all the threads to find it either, so hear it goes.

I heard on the news a few days ago about a teacher who had bulliten board with all of the Presidents pictures on it, including Pres. Bush and the First Lady. Some parents confronted her and asked her to either put John Kerry's picture up there or at least take Pres. Bush's down. When she refused the Vice Principle of the school told her that her political views did not belong in the classroom and she was told to leave.
Now, I don't want any cantidate bashing here, I just want your honest opinion on this subject.
#2 Oct 14 2004 at 8:52 AM Rating: Default
How old were these kids, and find us a link.
#3 Oct 14 2004 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Since Kerry is not now and has never been President of the US, his picture does not belong on that board. Of course, unless the teacher has all the other first ladies on it then Laura Bush's picture doesn't belong on it either.

The parent was out of line.

#4 Oct 14 2004 at 9:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kerry isn't president, therefore he shouldn't be on the board.

No comment on the First Lady since I don't know if it was one picture of both, if the teacher regulary put the current First Lady up (assuming she'd been teaching since Clinton), etc.

When I made comments about the dame fired for a Kerry bumper sticker I was told I shouldn't have an opinion on it without having been there to hear the "whole story". So I'm sure that none of us in this forum will be so crass as to comment on the actions of the vice-principle Smiley: wink2
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#5 Oct 14 2004 at 9:09 AM Rating: Good
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Here's a link.

The story doesn't mention that it was posted along with other President's pictures, just that it was posted next to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, but it doesn't specify that it was labeled "Our President" or anything like that, and since the students asked questions as about why it was hung, it leads me to believe that there was no caption.
The teacher admits to being a member of the Republican party and a Bush Campaign volunteer who regarded them as pictures of the first couple, not an endorsement, and does not want to discuss them with students because she does not "discuss politics in her classroom." The article does specify that she has had the picture up since the beginning of this school year (an election year) but doesn't say whether it was up in previous years. When the students asked questions and her VP told her to answer them, she refused.

I think at worst, she's an idiot and at best, supremely naive. How can an educator not think that prominently displaying photographs of a controversial figure (and Bush is that, even if he is President, as was Clinton in his time) won't cause a debate? I think a caption that said "Our 43rd President and First Lady" would have transmitted the message that this was, in fact, just a pair of photographs of our current leaders that should be regarded as benignly as the flag. She should at the very least be prepared to answer questions about it and guide her students in a political exercise. If she's not willing to discuss it, then take it down. Your class is not a totalitarian state.
#6 Oct 14 2004 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
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How old were these kids, and find us a link.


Here you go Smash,[link=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135319,00.html

Edited, Thu Oct 14 11:39:26 2004 by knightofvalor
#7 Oct 14 2004 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
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Ugh full of popups, that link
#8 Oct 14 2004 at 9:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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The story doesn't mention that it was posted along with other President's pictures
When I heard the story on the radio back when it came out (mind you, this was Pubbie talk morning show material), they said it was with all the previous Commander in Chiefs. Given that a poster, etc of all the presidents is hardly a unique classroom decoration, I just went with it.

Really though, short of coming with a frame reading "The Only Man Who'll Save Us From The Arabs", I can't think of an occassion where having the President's image in a public classroom is inappropriate.
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#9 Oct 14 2004 at 9:28 AM Rating: Good
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You spelled fox wrong...


Fox News wrote:
telling some students who offered opinions contrary to her statements, that she was 'glad they were not old enough to vote' ... (and) 'you should be ashamed to be a Democrat.'"


This would bring me storming into the classroom as a parent. It sounds to me there was more to the story than just the picture.

Edited, Thu Oct 14 10:34:22 2004 by xythex
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#10 Oct 14 2004 at 9:38 AM Rating: Good
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It sounds to me there was more to the story than just the picture.

This teacher does sound sketchy.
#11 Oct 14 2004 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
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Being a middle school English teacher I don't know why she would have such politically charged debates in her classroom anyway but I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions
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#12 Oct 14 2004 at 10:38 AM Rating: Decent
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You spelled fox wrong...


oops, the part of my brain that spells is hungover.

There its fixed now.

Edited, Thu Oct 14 11:40:12 2004 by knightofvalor
#13 Oct 14 2004 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
Political DISCUSSION should be welcomed in the classroom and with equal time to all sides it's a integral part of learning.

That being said...partisan politics is not welcome.

(Notice it wasn't a bleeding heart liberal teacher.)
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