Death Penalty for Under 18?Follow

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041013/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_death_penalty&cid=558&ncid=716

I'm all for just calling it a 51st trimester abortion and going through with it.

THAT should please both sides of the fence.

Hmm good arguments on both sides of the fence on this one. It will be interestin to see how it turns out.

Death Penalty, you americans are sick. Fu[b][/b]ck, this is what i hate about America.

Ya, we are much better off sticking people that rape and slaughter a few children into a revolving door prison at several dozen K per year for a few years and then dropping them back on the street to do it all again.

The death penalty is economical. If you cannot conduct your life in a manner so as not to take innocents lives, then you become an undue burdon to the society in which you exist.




I'll give you a second to reread the article before responding to this.

Edited, Wed Oct 13 09:52:22 2004 by xythex

That is the best post i have heard in a LOOOOOONg time.

If you're old enough to commit a crime punishable by the death penalty, you're old enough to be put to death for it.

If you're old enough to commit a crime punishable by the death penalty, you're old enough to be put to death for it.


So let's say a 4 year old child finds a loaded pistol and kills two of his freinds.

Kill him?

Hell yeah. With wild dogs, preferably.

I dont have any numbers and it wouldn't surprise me if it's true but I don't see why it should be more expensive.

Yes there is money wrapped up in the appeal, but as much as prison housing? Multiple arrests/trials/prison terms for repeat offenders? Why is establishing guilt any more expensive for life in prison than death? Guilt is guilt.

Irrelevant. If someone would have gotten the chair, they're getting multiple life sentances without parole instead. No one is avoiding the death penalty with a ten year prison term and getting out on three with good behavior.

This argument has no merit. It is MUCH more expensive to pursue the death penalty than to house prisoners for life. Orders of magnitude more expensive.

That's just because we have long appeals with expensive lawyers.

We tend to do things backwards. We have an appeal process that lasts far longer than the trial process. We should house the prisoner (no bail) until the defense declares themselves 100% ready for a trial, conduct the trial, and if an execution is the verdict, do it then and there.

Would it change the % of accurate trials? Nope, likely not one bit. Would it give a prisoner a way to basically opt for life in prison by continually declaring 'not ready'? Sure. Would it stop long and expensive appeals over death sentences? Ummm, yeah.

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That's it. Off my best friends list for good this time.



Death is a much better deterent than THE AVERAGE SENTANCE FOR MURDER, which generally turns into 5-10 years with good behavior. The death penalty is not wide spread enough. Like I said, guilt is guilt. It is unfair to the person who is sentanced to life that 48% is spent on the invesitigation for the person sentanced to death. Why should one person get a more fair trial?



Money is not the primary motive here. Prevention of reoccurance is the motive. The savings is a nice side benefit. As well as the deterance factor.


Im not saying the current system isn't flawed but fundementally I agree with the death penalty.

Edited to please joph

Edited, Wed Oct 13 12:56:46 2004 by xythex

you worded it wrong, they wern't saying "we're young so we can get away with murder, literally" they were saying " we're young so we should be punished, but not killed for our mistakes"



ohh, say it another two times, it was almost funny then...



I see your point here, the death penalty would deter people from such crimes, maybe I value human life more than you.

If someone is scentenced for life, they could be found to be innocent a few years down the line, same with someone who was scentenced to death, except it's harder to clear a dead person of all charges