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#27 Oct 08 2004 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Elsahn wrote:
And the actual true factual factcheck is

www.factcheck.org


Oh, I see. Now, you're flip-flopping. Are we to believe you now, since you lied the first time you quoted the site???

Huh? Huh????

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#28 Oct 08 2004 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
Elsahn wrote:
And the actual true factual factcheck is

www.fatchicks.org

Yeah, I'm into that.

#29 Oct 08 2004 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Elsahn wrote:
And the actual true factual factcheck is

www.factcheck.org



http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/issuebriefs_ib200
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#30 Oct 08 2004 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
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He's just taking off of Dic[u][/u]k "I never saw Edwards before.. except for all those other times" Cheney who also can't get FactCheck's URL correct Smiley: lol
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#31 Oct 08 2004 at 11:28 AM Rating: Default
Elsahn,

Fu[u][/u]ck your trolling...I'm through.

#32 Oct 08 2004 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
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It's not his fault, Jophed. Anything ol' ***** says MUST be true!!
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#33 Oct 08 2004 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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But people saying that John Kerry and other democrats didn't lie about this topic is whats at hand here. Thats why I started this thread. And so far nobody can prove me wrong on it.


and wehn did I mention Kerry?? other than to say that I'm NOT talking about him?


You're brainwash meter must be going red.
Bush has more ties to corruption than Kerry. Lies or no Lies. Bush has more ties to corruption

why are you endorsing him??
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#34 Oct 08 2004 at 11:34 AM Rating: Default
Tare... How dumb are you? Honestly

" I know Bush/Cheney lied" They admitted to it. Done.

Flip Flopping on websites? Hardly If you read my post I said www.factcheck.com OR ORG I FORGOT! Read before you post dumbass. Done.

Im done with your trolling!!! Then shutup. Musta struck a nerve. Done.

Yall really just have no concrete evidence to back up any of your non-sense today do yall?

I feel like im fighting little retarded middle schoolers , but quite frankly enjoy it.

Must be shocking that a republican let alone me actually has facts to argue against yall and I'm winning. That really must upset ya. =D

God this so fun. I own all of yall right now.
#35 Oct 08 2004 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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who the fu[i][/i]ck cares if Kerry lied?

He's NOT the President.
He wants to be, though. If Kerry does win the election, I expect a full apology from you since "omfg kerry lied!!11!1 he is teh suxx0r!!111".

I absolutely agree with you that it's not quite a fair comparison, but if Kerry lied before he was president, what's to stop him from doing so should he be elected?

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Just the qualities I'm looking for in an elected leader.
Exactly. If Kerry has dishonest qualities, then his character is no more credible than Bush's.

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#36 Oct 08 2004 at 11:36 AM Rating: Default
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#37REDACTED, Posted: Oct 08 2004 at 11:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I can never tell is this a Kerry flip or flop?
#38 Oct 08 2004 at 11:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Musta struck a nerve
By Skeet's Law you have now lost the debate. Next!
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#39 Oct 08 2004 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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DOESN'T GET THE JOKE.DOESN'T GET THE JOKE.
DOESN'T GET THE JOKE.DOESN'T GET THE JOKE.
DOESN'T GET THE JOKE.DOESN'T GET THE JOKE.
DOESN'T GET THE JOKE.DOESN'T GET THE JOKE.

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#40 Oct 08 2004 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
Interestingly enough, Kerry has not yet lied about whether or not he has ever been arrested.

I can't imagine why Bush and Cheney wouldn't be proud of their 3 total DWIs.
#41 Oct 08 2004 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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God this so fun. I own all of yall right now.


you're a tool.

Facts? waht are you trying to argue? that Kerry lied Too?

we've already established that pretty much all polititians lie. so fuuking waht? So now waht do you have?

Because you SAY that waht we are saying about Bush and his family being wholy EVIL is wrong, that makes it true??

you are a true tool.


I can picture you sweating over your keyboard right now.... trying to piece together some working argument when you KNOW you're following a TRUE EVIL DOER

Edited, Fri Oct 8 12:41:02 2004 by Kelvyquayo
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#42 Oct 08 2004 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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And, by the way, what the hell is with DR. PHIL interviewing Bush and Kerry?

I thought everyone had agreed that Dr. Phil was some kinda quack.

Smiley: lol

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#43 Oct 08 2004 at 11:41 AM Rating: Default
See the grand thing is, is that yall actually pertain by Skeets law so therefor I won the debate. =D

For i was the first one to strike yalls nerve.

Read it and weep. Good day ladies and village idiots.
#44 Oct 08 2004 at 11:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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You know what the worst thing about saying Must have struck a nerve is? It's a SLIPPERY SLOPE towards saying you own us.
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#45 Oct 08 2004 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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AAAHHHHHH!! You said the magic word!

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#46 Oct 08 2004 at 11:47 AM Rating: Default
OK let's do this...I knew if I actually checked the sources the heavily edited quotes would turn out bogus.

Here's the first quote from the Pubbie site:

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"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


Here's what he really said..

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Second, without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses.

He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. He miscalculated an eight-year war with Iran. He miscalculated the invasion of Kuwait. He miscalculated America's response to that act of naked aggression. He miscalculated the result of setting oil rigs on fire. He miscalculated the impact of sending scuds into Israel and trying to assassinate an American President. He miscalculated his own military strength. He miscalculated the Arab world's response to his misconduct. And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction.

That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm.

So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War. Regrettably the current Administration failed to take the opportunity to bring this issue to the United Nations two years ago or immediately after September 11th, when we had such unity of spirit with our allies. When it finally did speak, it was with hasty war talk instead of a coherent call for Iraqi disarmament. And that made it possible for other Arab regimes to shift their focus to the perils of war for themselves rather than keeping the focus on the perils posed by Saddam's deadly ******** Indeed, for a time, the Administration's unilateralism, in effect, elevated Saddam in the eyes of his neighbors to a level he never would have achieved on his own, undermining America's standing with most of the coalition partners which had joined us in repelling the invasion of Kuwait a decade ago.

In U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441, the United Nations has now affirmed that Saddam Hussein must disarm or face the most serious consequences. Let me make it clear that the burden is resoundingly on Saddam Hussein to live up to the ceasefire agreement he signed and make clear to the world how he disposed of weapons he previously admitted to possessing. But the burden is also clearly on the Bush Administration to do the hard work of building a broad coalition at the U.N. and the necessary work of educating America about the rationale for war.

As I have said frequently and repeat here today, the United States should never go to war because it wants to, the United States should go to war because we have to. And we don't have to until we have exhausted the remedies available, built legitimacy and earned the consent of the American people, absent, of course, an imminent threat requiring urgent action.

The Administration must pass this test. I believe they must take the time to do the hard work of diplomacy. They must do a better job of making their case to the American people and to the world.

I have no doubt of the outcome of war itself should it be necessary. We will win. But what matters is not just what we win but what we lose. We need to make certain that we have not unnecessarily twisted so many arms, created so many reluctant partners, abused the trust of Congress, or strained so many relations, that the longer term and more immediate vital war on terror is made more difficult. And we should be particularly concerned that we do not go alone or essentially alone if we can avoid it, because the complications and costs of post-war Iraq would be far better managed and shared with United Nation's participation. And, while American security must never be ceded to any institution or to another institution's decision, I say to the President, show respect for the process of international diplomacy because it is not only right, it can make America stronger - and show the world some appropriate patience in building a genuine coalition. Mr. President, do not rush to war.

And I say to the United Nations, show respect for your own mandates. Do not find refuge in excuses and equivocation. Stand up for the rule of law, not just in words but in deeds. Not just in theory but in reality. Stand up for our common goal: either bringing about Iraq's peaceful disarmament or the decisive military victory of a multilateral coalition.


That's just the first quote....

TOTAL AND COMPLETE ********* ELSAHN.

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#47 Oct 08 2004 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
I thought everyone had agreed that Dr. Phil was some kinda quack.


THAT, more than anything else, makes him extremely qualified to deal with this election.
#48 Oct 08 2004 at 11:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Elsahn wrote:
See the grand thing is, is that yall actually pertain by Skeets law so therefor I won the debate. =D

For i was the first one to strike yalls nerve.

Read it and weep. Good day ladies and village idiots.



This only confirms that you are either a complete tool, or pre-pubescent.

that's all, good day.

seriously , go back and read waht you wrote... It's like a bratty little kid skipping around in joy after realizing that the babysitter can't beat the **** out of him no matter waht he does...

Edited, Fri Oct 8 12:57:03 2004 by Kelvyquayo
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#49 Oct 08 2004 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
Pickled,

I don't hear anyone disputing what Kerry put his name on in my earlier post? Maybe that's because everyone under the sun thought Saddam had wmd's, which I believe were shipped to Iran when we came in. Everyone knows Saddam was the head honco as far as terrorism you dummycrats just choose to ignore the threat rather than make the tough decisions that, while costing american lives, is probably saving a hundred times that number. And when the election rolls around in the next couple of weeks and people are in the booths they'll ask themselves those questions. Do I feel safer with Bush or Kerry and then they'll vote Bush. I predict Kerry to win only 4 states, NY, CA and probably two others.


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#50 Oct 08 2004 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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varrussword wrote:
Maybe that's because everyone under the sun thought Saddam had wmd's, which I believe were shipped to Iran when we came in.


Oh, really? Did they put the WMD on the train with hats, sunglasses and fake moustaches?

No, that's not a bomb...that's Mr. Jones....

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#51 Oct 08 2004 at 12:05 PM Rating: Default
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Pickled,

I don't hear anyone disputing what Kerry put his name on in my earlier post? Maybe that's because everyone under the sun thought Saddam had wmd's, which I believe were shipped to Iran when we came in. Everyone knows Saddam was the head honco as far as terrorism you dummycrats just choose to ignore the threat rather than make the tough decisions that, while costing american lives, is probably saving a hundred times that number. And when the election rolls around in the next couple of weeks and people are in the booths they'll ask themselves those questions. Do I feel safer with Bush or Kerry and then they'll vote Bush. I predict Kerry to win only 4 states, NY, CA and probably two others.


Varus



I just read the whole thing including the speech by Carl Levin and I see nothing damning there.

What point are you trying to make with your little letter?
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